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John B

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absolutely fair comment I think, Back Home (on the drugs, and 'Smiley').  I have read enough to know about all that, and as good as it is, the new '67' Sunshine Tomorrow reminds of this concept, when you hear Brian's many mistakes/from impaired concentration, at the start of practicing 'Surfs Up' and that inappropriate 'Tutti Fruiti' adlib at the show.  You get the boys ...sense of direction-less-ness.  Is that fair to say?  due to what 'Rolling Stone' called at the time, 'Acid Casualty Doo Wop.'  Like, yes, we sing nostalgic songs like 'Graduation Day' greater than anyone else...but that doesn't stop us (and probably you hippies out there) from being embarrassed about it.  How about when Brian asks the audience, 'you prefer 'Sloop John B' or 'I Get Around'?  Well, of course, they want the less hippy-era approved, but higher charting song.  Did Mike turn purple when apologizing for the performance of 'Surfin', even though he wasn't a surfer himself?  Sounded like an apology.  Those half-bleeped covers of "The Letter" and "The Game of Love"?  Again, seems like they are feeling around in the dark for what to sing next--where to be placed now among contemporaries.  Hardly up there with the Beatles behavior at the time, was it?  We still sing beautifully, they appear to be saying to the audiences every time...and they DID, but we have no idea what we're going to do next.  Ironically, what they decided on next was much better in my opinion than 'Smiley' and 'Wild Honey'.  It was called 'Friends' and it was their worst seller until 'Sunflower' because quality and sales stopped corroborating in duet with the group during the hippie era, (stupid hippie era) at least after the GV single made it look like they would...
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Did anyone else notice that the annoying rips that spoil "Country Air" have been ALMOST erased?  Enough so that this stereo track is much more enjoyable than the original.

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John B

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well, yes and no.  to my ears, the new stereo version made the bass too loud.  So, I still prefer the original.
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dancai

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My only kick against Sunshine tomorrow is that it lacks session material from my fave Wild Honey track, "Here Comes the Night."  I have some on a bootleg (wish to God I could find it); the backing vocal arrangement is pure genius.

Not everyone is a fan of such session material; a friend tells me it's like watching the preparation of sausage.  I like it because it allows me to hear stuff that's covered up in the final production.

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dancai

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Originally Posted by bluekahuna55
Great release, lots of goodies and of course one hears things in a new light. Long live the Beach Boys! I live in 'Beatletown' UK.



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John B

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I guess I fall into the camp with your friend, dancai.  Rehearsals are for practicing until you have something.  Looking back at this release, it was worth it for me basically cause I didn't have a 'Wild Honey' on CD (and my car with the cassette deck--finally wrecked after 237K miles)--now I do.   The 'new' songs are not worth much.  no one is going to want to listen to the new 'covers' more than once or twice.  the 'Hawthorne Blvd.' instrumental is practically worthless.  The "Leid' in Hawaii thing is not worth much, regardless of which is live and which is not.  the various live recordings...not earth-shaking except they show what you already knew: the group sang better than all the other groups.  But, I've got bootleg live recordings already. 
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Al Forsyth

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Some ACDW???
Listen in a row:


LOVE this^


Love any and all out-takes.  It shows the process.

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Lee Marshall

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Not everyone is a fan of such session material; a friend tells me it's like watching the preparation of sausage.  I like it because it allows me to hear stuff that's covered up in the final production.

Danny


Me too.  Great to hear the buried genius of those arrangements and performances rise to the fore.  THAT'S what this band WAS all about.  And that was to reach the shared glory in achieving another step up the ladder to the next series of WOWs!!!  In that regard they seldom had equals.  ['Til they started to backtrack and just place it safe.  I guess they needed more bonafied direction and fewer self imposed roadblocks.]
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Me too.  Great to hear the buried genius of those arrangements and performances rise to the fore.  THAT'S what this band WAS all about.  And that was to reach the shared glory in achieving another step up the ladder to the next series of WOWs!!!  In that regard they seldom had equals. .....
I do like the way Mark and Alan generally present these CDs - You hear some session pieces of a track, with it developing (quickly) to "Take 14" and then hear the blend.  At times, magnificent.

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My only kick against Sunshine tomorrow is that it lacks session material from my fave Wild Honey track, "Here Comes the Night."  I have some on a bootleg (wish to God I could find it); the backing vocal arrangement is pure genius.

Not everyone is a fan of such session material; a friend tells me it's like watching the preparation of sausage.  I like it because it allows me to hear stuff that's covered up in the final production.

Danny


Just to complete the preceding post:  Finally I found my bootlegged compilation of the "deconstructed" "Here Comes the Night" (which I shall henceforth dub "HCTN" to keep it short).  The recording runs about 8 minutes total, a first backing-track take, a breakdown, followed by three complete takes from the the session.   Then the overdubbed backing vocals, and finally the lead vocal.

My favorite is the middle part, the great vocal arrangement that really makes the song for me.  Here's how it goes:

NIGHT-oh
HCTN-uh-oh
HERE COMES, HERE COMES
HERE now
HCTN-oh
HCTN uh-oh
HERE COMES, HERE COMES
HERE now HCTN-oh
HCTN uh-oh
HERE COMES, HERE COMES
HERE now HCTN-oh
HCTN
 OO-OO-OO

Now I want everyone to learn this, practice diligently, and bring it into your daily routine.

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Jeremy L

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   Finally got around to buying Sunshine Tomorrow.  Have listened to Disc 1 so far and really enjoyed it.  As for Wild Honey in stereo, I really enjoyed it and there are things that aren't noticeable in the mono mix.   But I'll still be listening to the mono mix from time to time too.  The mono mix packs a little more of a punch although there are obviously some details that were buried until the stereo version.

      I've always been a fan of Wild Honey.  But if I had one complaint about the album it's that it is too short.  Too bad that they couldn't have at least completed "Lonely Days".   It's a nice tune but perhaps they couldn't come up with any additional lyrics to finish the song.   Another Beach Boys album that while excellent still leaves you wanting a bit more is Friends.
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Lee Marshall

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How about "Lonely days...Lonely nights...where would I be w/o my woman?"...repeat.  Maybe, as well, toss in a little... "Good morning Mr. Sunshine you brighten up my day." ...Just to stay in keeping with the current project's name?

Works well for me?  I think it might appeal to some folks. [tongue]
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I took a little break from listening to it but will be getting back to listening to Sunshine tomorrow - it's wonderful, to say the least. More later about it.
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