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Al Forsyth

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Essential songs/Essential artists

Do you have essential artists?  Those that have moved you, changed you, and/or made you to who you are today!  I have mentioned this probably far too often that as a child of the sixties the four pillars for me were:  The Beach Boys, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Motown-collectively: the BIG four.  They ALL changed the landscape by MORE than simply their music but here we are only focusing on the music. But there was another that I found through my sister’s appreciation – Elvis.  Since Beatles do not play on YouTube I had to pull Strawberry Fields from this competition and in place comes Elvis.  Here are the songs and the artists - they all shaped and changed me!

Elvis Presley
Suspicious Minds


The Beach Boys
Surf’s Up

The Rolling Stones
Honky Tonk Women

://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSdrG2Rl77g

The Supremes
My World Is Empty Without You



Thanks to Bonnie for her terrific Wilson week.  Who and what songs are yours - essentials!


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Peter Simpson

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So, my votes

Gold - Elvis - his best ever track IMO - I love that song, used to have the single.
Silver - Stones. As I've said, a group I really came to appreciate almost in retrospect. Looking back, I can see just how important they are.
Bronze - Supremes - Motown is almost always great
Tin BB's - I'm sure I'll get banned from the board for giving this tin. I appreciate it's a remarkable piece, but I've just heard it too often now.

My essential artists

Beach Boys / Brian
Four Seasons
Carole King
My Morning Jacket.

all the best Al and keep eating the oysters!
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Darren J. Ray

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Al, seeing as you substituted one song with a fade out and fade in again for another, let's hear that fade in again!

This has it (and probably inspired by the former)...




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Darren J. Ray

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And here's the original, written and performed by Mark James. 

Elvis got lucky!

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kds

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Gold - The Beach Boys - Surf's Up is tied with Warmth of the Sun for my favorite all time Beach Boys song.  100% essential.  

Silver - The Rolling Stones - This, and many of their other hits, tend to get overplayed, but that doesn't make them any less essential. 

Bronze - Diana Ross 

Tin - Elvis - While I'll acknowledge that Elvis did influence a lot of people, The Beatles in particular, I've always thought he was overrated.  Great singer?  Sure.  But, I don't feel you can really call him the "King of Rock and Roll" when you have more authentic pioneers such as Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, etc.  
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Lee Marshall

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Oh man...this is going to be tough.  2 songs are battling for first, and right now I don't think I can give one the edge.  The other 2 are battling for last from what I consider to be 2 of the most overrated singers of all time.  Both good but neither of them a god.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

G O L D...The Stones...Honky Tonk Women.  One of my top 3 Stones tunes ever.  Nails 'it'.  Golden by just a mere fleck of dust. 

Silver...Beach Boys...Surf's Up.  Not quite.  It satisfies my soul but...it's a mini-notch below HTW.  Maybe a week from now I'd have reversed these 2 contenders.

and then way, Way, WAY behind ... like maybe later tomorrow [and the parade is long over...]
neither of these deserve a medal so... ... ...

tin...Pelvis.  Not *my* "king".  Not the giant of *my* day[s].  I preferred Fats Domino, Little Richard and especially Chuck Berry and Dion.  Over-rated and way too over saturated.  [his movie tunes were almost all pure unadulterated dreck]  Suspicious Minds?  Count this one as tied for LAST place.

turd...whoops...sorry...tin...again.  One of the most mean spirited individuals to ever ascend the charts.  What an ego?  Diane [that's her name] Ross and the friends she abandoned.  My World is almost as Empty as my Soul.  I always thought that 'she' sounded like an oboe.
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John B

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4 great songs, but this is easy.

1. The Beach Boys
2. Elvis
3. The Stones
4.  The Supremes


as always appreciate the differences of opinion.  but really, kds, Jerry Lee Lewis?  I mean, Chuck Berry/Little Richard, sure, no doubt.  But what exactly did Jerry Lee do and when did he do it?  to deserve such pioneer group inclusion?   He had a couple of very conventional blues chord songs that became hits.  2 I believe it was.  in what year, kds?  and then what?   Yeah, I like 'High School Confidential' and 'Wild One' as much as the next guy.  But ...up there with 'One Night' and 'Reconsider Baby' and 'If I can Dream'?   Are you kidding me?  I mean, you don't have to call him the king if nobility offends you.  But, really, by comparison, one guy was a rock god, the other, a novelty southern doofus.  (sorry, killah).
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Lee Marshall

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I met Jerry Lee a couple of times.  In fact I spent a few hours directly around him...sometimes just the 2 of us/sometimes 3 or 4 of us...watching, listening, chatting, watching and listening.  [nono]  It seemed that a more self-centered, egotistical, mean-spirited person in show-business would be more than merely extremely hard to find.  [crazy]  T'was about 30 years ago and he was long past over the hill then but ...  I wouldn't have trusted a living soul's safety, man nor beast, in his company... ... ...once the door was closed. [eek]

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Yes John B..."Killah" indeed.  Not necessarily a loving nick-name bestowed by friends.  If the shoe fit... ... ...
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John B

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I know.  but props, at his best, such as live, he was great.  I saw Jerry Lee and Fats both live, and they both were (for want of a better word) dominant  on stage.   But in comparison to Elvis TV '68, not so much...
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John B

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I'm going to assume that those 'Jerry Lee is best' people are arguing "at his best" not based objectively on uh...productivity.  Can you imagine if some radio station had a "Jerry Lee Lewis weekend!"   Wouldn't that last about as long as a Sex Pistols weekend?   (rim shot).   Two hours in, you'd be suffering already.  God, not 'Great Balls of Fire' again!

But seriously folks.  It's like those (and maybe kds is one) 'The Who is better than the Stones' people.  Again, you mean at their best.  you MUST.   because...(exaggerating to make a point), don't the Stones have about 150 great songs and the Who, maybe 9?  [smile]
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kds

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John,

Yes, I'd use the "at their best" argument.  

And, usually, when I debate the merits of a band/artist, I go with quality over quantity.  Just as I've seen people make the argument that Dennis is the best solo Beach Boy despite the fact that he only had one officially released album to his credit.  

I do think that at their best, I'd take The Who over the Stones.  The Stones have a catalog littered with great music.  But, I'd argue that the Stones never put out an album as good as Tommy, Who's Next, and Quadrophenia, which were released back-to-back-to-back by The Who.  But, IMO, there's a steep drop off in quality with The Who after Quadrophenia, and the Stones put out a ton more good albums post 1973.  

I'd also add artists like Cream, CCR, The Doors, and The Police as artists that did a lot of great stuff in a very short amount of time.   
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Darren J. Ray

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But, really, by comparison, one guy was a rock god, the other, a novelty southern doofus.  (sorry, killah).

Can you imagine if some radio station had a "Jerry Lee Lewis weekend!"   Wouldn't that last about as long as a Sex Pistols weekend?   (rim shot).   Two hours in, you'd be suffering already.  God, not 'Great Balls of Fire' again! 


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don't the Stones have about 150 great songs and the Who, maybe 9?  


ROTFL

Thanks, John B. [biggrin]
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John B

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Yeah, glad you said that, because the math doesn't add up.  In literature, no one says Salinger was the best, right? 

...but, you, er, sure kds, you don't prefer the Who because they are closer to heavy metal?

You know, there is a rap version of this: Biggie fans over Tupac, even though Biggie has 2 albums and Tupac has about 12! 
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Lee Marshall

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Well...THIS is an interesting battle.  The J.L.L. "weekend"...wouldn't last an hour.  And, IF I HAD TO CHOOSE, I'd be hard pressed to pick between the WHO and the Stones but I think I'd have to give the WHO the tiniest of edges.

Aftermath was a sensational album ... the best of the entire lot imho...but the WHO have more songs I'd miss than the Stones do.  I like them both but Pete trumps Keith by a smidge.  As a song writer and as a guitarist.  As for showmanship?  There's no comparison.  Townshend eats Richards for breakfast, lunch and dinner.  Keith.  Keith!!  KEITH!!!  W A K E...U P!!!!!!  And don't get me started on that wannabee Jagger.  Try and steal dance moves from James Brown?  The T.A.M.I. show is all the proof one needs that Mick couldn't do THAT trick.

Daltry on the other hand?  B O O M!!!  Moon steamrolls Watts.  And Entwhistle could play poor old Bill into the ground.  [in the end...it IS all about the music.]
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kds

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I'm definitely a bigger Who fan than Stones fan, but it really has nothing to do with my affection for heavy metal.  


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