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t bedford

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You won't find me over praising the Fabs. Anymore, they are $imply product, and not much el$e. They do deserve the most over-hyped band ever award, for sure. In fact, I've been saying "not another dime" for years....I don't care how many times & ways they repackage/remaster the same 180-ish songs. And don't get me started on the abysmal "Love"....that, er, "new" Beatles album of a few years ago.
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Interesting discussion.  John B, I hope you behave in your meeting. [biggrin]

At 12 years old, I was hit between the eyes with a new band, complete with a boy-faced, overly hirsute lead singer by the name of Jon Bon Jovi.  I promptly fell in girl-love, which lasted maybe a year, or perhaps an album.  That's a long time in girl land.  I had to buy "Slippery When Wet" twice, because my tape deck chewed up the first one.

"You Give Love a Bad Name" 



"Wanted Dead or Alive"



Around a year later, I heard this song, chased it down, and became an Elvis fan.  Highly unusual for a kid in the eighties, but I think I was more interested in his life (and the conspiracy theories around his death) than his actual music, although this song still rates as one of my favourites ever.  Something about the restrained energy in him in these very early years resonates with me.  That is one hot voice.





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"Be My Baby" was released today in 1963.  Essential for all of us, through Brian.


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Love the back and forth bantering going on with our essentials!

My essential votes:

Gold: Surf's Up - Beach Boys - Heart wrenchingly beautiful. They don't call Brian a genius for nothing as this masterpiece proves.

Silver: Suspicious Minds - Elvis Presley - I have to disagree with you Darren. Mark James got lucky. Elvis recorded his song.

Bronze: Honky Tonk Woman - Rolling Stones - I believe Mick was a Texan in his other life.

Tin: Supremes - My World is Empty Without You - The Supremes and the Funk Brothers rock this song but the competition is too strong this week.

There are a few essentials here in this mind blowing video!


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Yep - VERY essential Brian song - BMB. 

So we are getting some bands/people who are essential to each and everyone and some songs.  And not too much battling over them!

Keep the votes as well as the artists and the songs coming and add your whys to this essential question. Who are your essential artists and what are their essential songs? 

Oh and here is a fan interview from the Dream Girl herself and the book is definitely worth reading.  Gracious, as always.
http://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/music/2015/02/25/motown/23941301/ 

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Guess I'm essentially ready to vote on this:

GOLD -- Beach Boys, Surf's Up -- That hard working guy of a genius with one of his finest art exhibits of music. 

SILVER -- Elvis Presley, Suspicious Minds -- Never been to Graceland, never tried a fried peanut butter and banana sandwich or whatever else...but still respect his work. Hearing the very beginning of it all (30 years later) with "Mystery Train" and "That's All Right Mama" as bonnie pointed out -- had my ears perk up. Under it all, maybe he kept his head screwed on right. I remember a cool anecdote from a TV documentary, "He Touched Me:The Gospel Music of EP". Couldn't come across a brief clip of that story, but I did find what's supposedly actual audio. Here's EP denying his Kingdom:



BRONZE (tie) -- Mick & the boys/Diva Diana & the ladies -- You really nailed the Essentials, Al. Hate to wuss out with a tie, but really, I think there's an equal chambers in my mind, heart and soul for raucous rock and bubble-gummy Motown...especially if it's yet another written by Holland-Dozier-Holland smasheroo.

The only other essential would be that Bug Music. To think their last paid tickers concert was 50 years ago yesterday (Aug 29) at Candlestick Park in San Fran. Then there's this upcoming release by director Opie/Richie Cunningham (though I can live without the colourizing that famous airport interview at 0:33): 




Great week, Al! Thanks!
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Twenty or thirty years ago, I went looking for a vocal group that was making new music and was very pleased to find Maggie, Terre (Terry) and Suzzie (rhymes with "fuzzy") Roche, three sisters from the New Jersey/New York area who performed and recorded for many years as the Roches.

I made a YouTube playlist tonight that features 14 of their songs, 13 from the 80s plus one from the 90s. It runs for an hour. Listening to it reminded me how much I've enjoyed their music. I'd given up on the Beach Boys by then and Brian was quiet, but I had the Roches -- great singers with a distinctive approach to songwriting and recording.

The playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnzY8RQcl4WCxvCSkHVK5_DqMr7dlo_Eu

A few selections:

"Steady with the Maestro", Keep On Doing, 1982



"Missing" and "Love to See You", Another World, 1985





"I Love My Mom", Speak, 1989



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With Lisa, Popeye and T-Bedford placing their "essential votes, it looks like we are half way there.  Good essential songs and artists names coming in as well.  Remind me to vote on Friday as the Labor Day weekend takes hold here in the States.  [cool]  But do continue to let us know who your favorites may be. 
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Now wait a minute, Al, you said "essentials". If we're doing "favorites", I'm going to have to do some quick thinking. [smile]
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thanks so much, Larry, for giving me the chance to vote on my favorite/best/most essential Roches tunes!

(in approx. chron. order)

1. Mr. Sellack ('I have waited for things you would not believe...to come true')
2. Hammond Song ('You'll Never Come Back')
3. Losing True
4. Keep on Doing what you Do (Jerks on the loose)
5. Love Radiates Around (written by boyfriend about my fave in group, Maggie)
6. Big Nuthin' (about the Tonight Show...with Johnny, what did he call them?  whimsical? I'll have to look for that clip)
7. Ing ('Im always wondering when it starts thundering, which is the better thing to be still or running'.(that is a great existential question, huh?)
8.  Knifed ('a little scratch heals but this one is not so small, I can tell because it feels as if there is no scratch at all...now that I am crippled it is helpful to know the will to live is tripled but the wheelchair is slow')

9. Good King Wenceslas
10. The Holly & the Ivy
11. Angels We have Heard on High (should start any Christmas tape if you don't have Run Run Rudolph or Little Saint Nick)

12. Clothesline Saga (but they can never seem to record it with all 3 sisters together...)

Like the Boys, three siblings voices blending together perfectly.  Saw them 3 times, once at the Beverly Theater and the other 2 times up here in S.F.

thanks again, Larry!

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Agree, as does Al, that favourites aren't necessarily essentials.

Disagree that A Bigger Bang saved the Stones from decades of self inflicted mediocrity...'cause it didn't and it doesn't.  Just like That's Why God Made the Radio didn't wipe out decades of iffy releases and studio inactivity for our 'local' heroes.

So?  That takes us back to the most meaningful section of their collective bodies of work.  The Beach Boys win by millions of miles as far as I'm concerned.
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Because of Brian mostly, the 'Boys are my favorite group, Lee.

But despite that album title, the Rolling Stones really did not 'suq' for decades.  They deserve credit for making productive and quality music within the notoriously limiting rock n roll genre for far longer than anyone else has ever done.  Far longer.  They deserve props for that.   You see the old blues guys way up there in years and they play their guitar, close their eyes, and so forth, but they play songs from their youth.  The Stones did them one better.  They competed successfully with the Beatles, then Bowie and Lou Reed, then the Sex Pistols and the Clash, and then Bruce Springsteen, Nirvana, and Green Day.  AND, they remained great live--through at least February 4, 2003, and that is a conservative estimate.  How would I know?  Because I saw them on that night and they were still great.

If this actuality is not universally known and appreciated I blame the conservatism of so-called 'classic rock' radio and its listeners because all they hear over and over and over and over in this ultra-narrow model is Beatles to Zep.  SO, those are the songs they believe to be the Stones' best (because they don't hear songs on classic rock radio such as 'Undercover of the Night' or 'Harlem Shuffle' or 'Respectable' or 'Shattered' or 'Waitin' on a Friend' or from 'Steel Wheel's or from '...a bigger bang' etc., and those old conservative listeners don't buy those albums not from their own youth.   Rather than the effort it would take to listen to these records, they choose the easy (non-brain taxing) option of just replaying all the songs again their classic rock station keeps playing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over... and rationalizing, 'the Stones suqqed after (choose one) Brian left, Ian left, Bianca left, my coke habit sent me to rehab...'

Lee will not admit it, but in the Boys' case, had the group supported Brian as they should have on 'Love You' and 'Adult Child', there might have been similar to the Stones' like productivity and consistency all the way TO 'TWGMT radio'.   But they did not, so there was not.
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John B -- You never cease to surprise me, which is a good thing. [smile] 

From your Roches list:

"Ing", A Dove, 1992



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It's quite possible my tape deck had more taste than I did.  It chewed up Bon Jovi, but never my brothers Beach Boy's compilation.

This song always takes me back to my first year at University, which was a bit lonely and weird.  Having just read the Anthony Kiedis biography, I can now see a wee link. [smile] 

Red Hot Chilli Peppers.




And then of course, when somebody you love very much dies, young and unexpectedly, their funeral song will forever bring memories.  

Cat Stevens.









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My substantial post for the day:

Coincidentally, tonight the Internet got me to look at an article Elvis Costello published in "Vanity Fair" magazine in 2000. The subtitle, which someone else must have written, says "one of rock's finest talents has identified 500 albums essential to a happy life".

Costello doesn't use the word "essential" himself. He uses "indispensable" instead.

http://www.elviscostello.info/articles/t-z/vanity_fair.001101a.html


For example, his Beach Boys choices, including his top tracks: 

Pet Sounds (1966), "Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)," "God Only Knows"; 
Carl and the Passions-So Tough (1972), "Cuddle Up";
Holland (1973), "The Trader";

Good Vibrations: Thirty Years of the Beach Boys (boxed set; 1993), "Surf's Up, "Wonderful".


Among his Rolling Stones picks are:

Let It Bleed (1969); "You Can't Always Get What You Want"; 
Some Girls (1978), "Shattered".

I think "Gimme Shelter" is the most essential track on Let It Bleed for musical and cultural reasons, and would have skipped Some Girls completely, although "Shattered"is a good one, as John B said.

"Gimme Shelter"



"Shattered"




For Van Morrison, he picked:

Astral Weeks (1968), "Beside You"; 
Moondance (1970), "Into the Mystic". 

I wouldn't argue with "Into the Mystic", but for me (and apparently for Van Morrison too) "Madame George" is the most essential from Astral Weeks.

"Beside You"



"Madame George"



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