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Al Forsyth

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THAT Four Letter Word!

The month of Love is over but with spring bringing hope eternal and more birds and bees, let’s get our love going (in music here) and look at its varying forms.   The theme is LOVE – but what is it and how do we each perceive it without getting overly personal or you can if you feel the need to do so. [love]

First up – Is it a continuing “story”?  The one depicted of course doesn’t end well for author Shakespeare yet this one ends differently.  Who can’t be amazed at those “stories” that do endure?  Real love stories just may live on.

Taylor Swift did her take on the GREAT Bard of Avon, William Shakespeare, and shows it as her Love Story.  Cue the banjo:

Next can we really practice love for all to see and demonstrate it as something that we know and believe in?   So is it question – where, what, and why is there love?  Is it a larger concept that needs to be practiced and demonstrated? 

The Black Eyed Peas ask this question as in Where Is The Love? Cue the question mark”

Is it even a higher concept where we search and ask for it?  An indication that it exists inside and outside of us and seems to elevate people.  Steve (or Stevie) Winwood always had the knack in three decades of giving us great music, be it Spencer Davis, Blind Faith, Traffic or solo.  Higher Love was on one of those very albums that had the positive energy going for it. 

Cue the percussion: 



Finally, is it unconditional – give love and don’t expect anything in return yet somehow, if we persist, that love will find us.  You know it when you experience it.  No limitations – dream it and it will come.  Brian Wilson seemed to and wrote about it on No Pier Pressure with One Kind Of Love but more importantly the film Love and Mercy.  Shhhhhh – don’t tell anyone that this is a better song than Ga Ga’s “winner” this year.

Cue the French horn and the waves:

Get your love on and share some.  Just don’t forget to vote about it in the process. 

C & P
Taylor Swift - Love Story
The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love?
Steve Winwood - Higher Love
Brian Wilson - One Kind Of Love


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Darren J. Ray

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Taylor Swift has the equal record for the second most Tins in a week ever - 17 Tins for ‘22’ (Week 13, Season VI - Peter Simpson). 

I'd be very surprised if she receives 17 Tins this week. 
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John E

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Here's my order:

1. Stevie Winwood - One of his best

2. Brian - I haven't listened to this much, but it's one of his better recent songs

3. Taylor Swift - Nice enough, but I prefer Taylor Mills

4. Black Eyed Peas - Good to hear a positive rap-based track

Here are a couple of love songs from my two favourite albums that have been released this year:



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Larry Franz

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Al -- Two of your songs make me feel all of 67 years old. 

John E -- Thanks for the Lily & Madeleine. It doesn't make me feel 67 years old.

Not that there's anything wrong with feeling one's age.


Gold -- Brian Wilson -- Too bad about the Oscars, but it wouldn't have fit very well in the movie.

Silver -- Steve Winwood -- Don't remember this from 1986.

Bronze -- Black Eyed Peas -- The rap is more annoying than clever.

Tin -- Taylor Swift -- She's pretty but not as pretty as young Lord Stubble Face. The song seemed vapid.


A few that came to mind:

Roberta Flack & Donny Hathaway -- the old "Where Is the Love" (1972)
youtube.com/watch?v=ZcHPNUN-U8E

The Beach Boys -- "Our Sweet Love"
youtube.com/watch?v=15vRuRg_LTo

The Who -- "Our Love Was"
youtube.com/watch?v=XS5spuKkvW4

Thanks, Al.

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John B

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'Analog Love' might have won!~

this week is a challenge, not to be mean and unfair.  Yet, I don't think multiple listenings would change anything.  So, here goes:

1.  Brian's "One Kind of Love"

just okay by Brian's standards.  Like the verses better than the chorus, which reminds a little of 'Crocodile  Rock'.  My favorite part is the wordless 'ah, ah, ah, ah's' at the very end.

2. Black Eyed Peas, 'Where is the Love'?  like the singing part and the Asian guy's 'Biggie impression' rap.  the rest is a little generic.

3. Taylor Swift 'Love Story'.

it strikes me since I am one of 4 sons, who raised 3 sons, a 12-13 year-old girl is the most completely unknown entity to me in the entire world.   I've seen many movies like this video that I liked, but the song does not stick to my ears at all.  Is she pretty?   I don't know, I'd like to compliment her business sense.  and since she gets a lot of insults (who is Lord Stubbleface?), I am predisposed to defend her, like Miley, keep her out of last place.

4. Steve Winwood 'Higher Love'

no appeal to me at all.

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by the way, just found out today, that Eddi Reader covered Amy Winehouse's "Love is a Losing Game".  and she also has a new 2-album set coming out.  Do they still call them 2-album sets?  (asks this 57 yo). 

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Larry Franz

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Quote:
Originally Posted by John B

Is she pretty?   I don't know, I'd like to compliment her business sense.  and since she gets a lot of insults (who is Lord Stubbleface?), I am predisposed to defend her...

Lord Stubble Face, as portrayed by model Justin Gaston:
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The Beach Boys -- "I Was Made To Love Her" (or him)
youtube.com/watch?v=6grwSNRixVk


PS: I never had any feelings about Taylor Swift at all until the 2016 presidential election. She was encouraged to endorse one of the candidates but declined to do so. With the number of "Swifties" out there (a term she has trademarked), she might have made a difference. To her credit, she did speak out before the 2018 midterm election.

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Al Forsyth

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Well we're off and running and STILL don't know what love is.  For John E - it's "higher" and for Larry and John B. it's "unconditional" in their musical context this week.

The Lily and Madeleine was pretty good.  
John B. mentioned Eddi Reader covering Amy Winehouse back in 2014 on Back The Dogs.  Is love a losing game?  For Amy it may have been.  

Eddi could sing the alphabet and I'll listen. 

Stubble Face and Tay Tay have some points. 

These guys got into peace and love:
Cue the French national anthem, "La Marseillaise":

It's all we really need. 

The Beatles begin making anthemic songs. 

Thanks: John E., Larry and John B. for the fist day votes! 
Brian takes the lead on Day #1.

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Gold - Love Story (Taylor Swift - 2008)
It’s the only song of hers I remotely like. And I really like it. The music, the story, the key change. It’s in my collection. And it’s in my Top 1000 list! Some Beach Boys classics don’t make that. I’ve never found her attractive at all (she tries to be), and the clip is actually kind of a turn off. Didn’t need it. 

Silver - One Kind of Love (Brian Wilson - 2015)
Easily my favourite of the songs I’ve heard on No Pier Pressure. Cue the tears at the end of the movie. 

Bronze - Where Is the Love? (official music video version) (The Black Eyed Peas - 2003)
I briefly dated a girl who was obsessed with this group. She gave me burned copies of their CDs. I don’t think I’ve ever played them. I thought the track was borrowing from the Roberta Flack and Donnie Hathaway song but not according to Wiki. Interesting to note that’s Justin Timberlake singing on the chorus, although he’s not credited or in the clip. Fergie’s another one. What’s the big deal? Celebrity doesn’t mean you’re automatically good looking.

Participant - Higher Love (edited version) (Steve Winwood - 1986)
I’ve no idea why this clip is so short. Even the single version goes another 20 seconds. Anyway… I was never into this song, and radio flogged it. The quality is obviously there, though, and that’s Chaka Khan especially prominent on the end. But something has to be last, and I’m glad to put this here for all the times I had to put up with listening to it in the ‘80s. 

 
Will continue listening throughout the busy week, Al. Good stuff. 

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Popeye (not the sailor)

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My lovely votes:

Gold: One Kind of Love - Brian Wilson - Another beautiful song from our Brian.

Silver: Higher Love - Steve Winwood - Talented singer and songwriter.

Bronze: Love Story - Taylor Swift - She's a lot cuter than that black eyed pea dude.

Tin: Where is The Love - Black Eyed Peas featuring Cornbread

I always thought this was Steve Winwood until the innerwebs came along and I looked it up.



Thanks Al!
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Cindy Hood

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Some good songs here, Al.  Love is the most important of all things, too.

Here are my votes:

Gold:  Taylor Swift for Love Story.  This is probably the only song that I really like of hers, but I LIKE it a lot.

Silver:  Steve Winwood for Higher Love.  I hear this every day on the radio.  But, even though it's played so much, I really haven't tired of it.  It's a good song!

Bronze:  Brian Wilson for One Kind of Love.  Very nice.

Tin:  Black Eyed Peas for Where Is The Love.  I didn't know that this was theirs until now.  Out of all of their songs, I like this one the least.


Thanks, Al!


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Al Forsyth

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Yay to more votes from Darren, Popeye and Cindy.  This battle is heating up!!!!  The Peas need some help though.

Of course Stevie Winwood is a massive legend and surely we'll hear more.  There were some artists who came out with something shiny  in that crazy decade:  Higher Love followed by Gimme Some Lovin' live on Letterman - Paul Schaffer totally into it. 

They NAIL it!  ^^^^ I still don't understand the lyrics to Gimme after 50 plus years  (but it's lovin')
Steve's daughter, Lilly, and dad give it somber justice:

"I could rise above for this higher love"

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John B

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thanks Al! and  Love the pic of the two great women, side by side.  

I once had a ticket to see Fairground Attraction at the Whiskey (where Brian famously joined the boys on stage in 1970, but had ear pain the 2nd show, etc.).  But when I showed up, on a Friday night, I was told that it was cancelled and would not be rescheduled.  Then I learned from a friend in Ojai (pronounced like the 7 Dwarfs song hai-), that she was living up there, and Eddi went on to make solo records, usually with a great song or two such as "On a Whim" but never completely up there with the F.A. album.  but then much later, she became the undisputed master interpreter of Robert Burns songs (he was the first pop star, a civil servant like myself who introduced the chamber string quartet favoring rich folk to songs with working class slang, about the time that Jonathan Swift was causing mischief and the American colonies were becoming the United States.  yet, we still sing Burns songs hundreds of years later, like 'Auld Lang Syne.' Burns was a Scott.

So, THEN, Eddi had such confidence that she made a 100% great hard-core emotional album like Amy and Billie Holliday, called "Peacetime."  I love that album.  It featured two of her husband's (John Douglas of the Trashcan Sinatras) best written tunes, "Prisons" and "Should I Pray?"  Now, I read her husband has ulcerative colitis and is trying to recover, so she recorded her new album in the family home.  She is quite political, causing controversy, advocating Scottish independence, I believe, against Twitter backlash, of course...
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Larry Franz

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Ambrose Bierce defined "love" as "a temporary insanity cured by marriage". But he could be a bit cynical.

Frank Sinatra -- "I've Got You Under My Skin"
youtube.com/watch?v=fBnhZeQpRCk

Junior Wells -- "Love Me"
youtube.com/watch?v=hFASUoZhA_4

Johnny Rivers -- "Mountain of Love"
youtube.com/watch?v=V8nolWWMpO4

Tame Impala -- "Love / Paranoia"
youtube.com/watch?v=WqCGrE2XO-w

This Is Ivy League -- "Love Is Impossible"
youtube.com/watch?v=OR7SVBWeVf8

Gene Kelly (with Leslie Caron) -- "Our Love Is Here To Stay" (from An American In Paris)


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Gold: Brian Wilson - One Kind Of Love.  Ummed and ahhed and went for this. Deserves a gold for the honest lyrics.
Silver: Taylor Swift - Love Story.  I like Taylor.  So refreshing from the other female artists who now feel they have to pop in explicit words to be hip.

Bronxe: The Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love?. Could have been Silver - or maybe Gold ... reheard the 'rap' and thought - 'nah'.
Tin: Steve Winwood - Higher Love.  Loved Stevie in Spencer Davis Group. His solo stuff does nothing for me. Just a preference.

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