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John B

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thanks, kds.

you know it's ironic.  Everyone in Houston knows hurricanes and floods, they are so normal, cause the pine trees shed their needles and cones and the city drains get clogged.  It's what they are use to, but this time, it was worse.

I think this topic is like that.  We oldsters can latch onto these new acts that remind us of our 'glory days', hate to put it that way, but it's true.  So, it's easy to like for example, "...a Strange Arrangement" by Mayer Hawthorne, or "Back to Black" by Amy Winehouse, or the first Bruno Mars album (go deluxe to get "Somewhere in Brooklyn"!), or even Mehgan Trainor. 

I think when the Clash did "I Fought the Law" a lot of lights went on, and some previously anti-punk people thought, 'you know...now I get them, their hearts are in the right place.'  Same with the Ramones and then Green Day.  You can tell that they had at least heard Beatles and Beach Boys albums before...

I try...but don't like say Kanye West or Ed Sheeran.
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The sad part is I'm only 36, about to turn 37, and I felt out of touch with modern music, starting around the age of 12 (late 1992-93), and have felt that way ever since.  

The plus side is it's afforded me a lot of time over the last 25 years to delve into the past and discover those treasures.  

I used to try to seek out newer bands much more so when I can single and had a lot more time on my hands.  But, now I'm at the point, when I have the time to listen to music, where I'd prefer to do so with the artists I already know and love.  
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Ed Sheeran is my least favorite person who has EVER attempted to make music on the planet, closely followed by the entire One Direction "band." I love Amy Winehouse though! I forgot about her. I loved when she did Valerie. Her 60's jazz/Motown throwback style is awesome. Duffy gives off a similar vibe, especially with her song Mercy. Are You Gonna Be My Girl by early 2000's Austrailian rock group, Jet, which was fairly recently used in the battle, is one if my favorites. I also attached a couple of videos from Quinn Sullivan, whom I mentioned earlier.








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The sad part is I'm only 36, about to turn 37, and I felt out of touch with modern music, starting around the age of 12 (late 1992-93), and have felt that way ever since.  

The plus side is it's afforded me a lot of time over the last 25 years to delve into the past and discover those treasures.  

I used to try to seek out newer bands much more so when I can single and had a lot more time on my hands.  But, now I'm at the point, when I have the time to listen to music, where I'd prefer to do so with the artists I already know and love.  

You're not the only sad case. I'm 14 going on 15 and more out of touch than you can imagine. I'm so sick of what I hear on pop radio that I've gotten to the point where I just avoid it at all costs! At least I know what I like now, so I don't have to waste my time trudging through piles of mainstream garbage. There are a few good ones every once in a while though.

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You're not the only sad case. I'm 14 going on 15 and more out of touch than you can imagine. I'm so sick of what I hear on pop radio that I've gotten to the point where I just avoid it at all costs! At least I know what I like now, so I don't have to waste my time trudging through piles of mainstream garbage. There are a few good ones every once in a while though.


I couldn't agree more about Ed Sheeran.  I'll kind him credit, he finds a lot of different ways to be just awful.  

There's some decent stuff out there, but it seems like whenever I find a promising younger group, they either go away completely, radically change their sound from what I liked in the first place, or just don't continue writing songs that're as good as the ones that hooked me.  
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Wow.  I seemed to have hit a nerve with my mention of Ed Sheeran.  I just thought it was me who found him so awful...

But on a brighter note, The Astros just picked up Justin Verlander.  Shows they're serious about their upcoming fights with the Indians or Red Sox...  

any Nats love, kds?
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Wow.  I seemed to have hit a nerve with my mention of Ed Sheeran.  I just thought it was me who found him so awful...

But on a brighter note, The Astros just picked up Jason Verlander.  Shows they're serious about their upcoming fights with the Indians or Red Sox...  

any Nats love, kds?


I'm not really a Nats fan.  I'm a lifelong Baltimore Orioles fan.  
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John B

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As an Oakland A's fan who does not like the SF Giants, I can appreciate that!
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As an Oakland A's fan who does not like the SF Giants, I can appreciate that!


The Baltimore / DC sports thing is strange.  

Most Ravens fans hate the Redskins (though it's mostly a deep rooted dislike for the times they tried to keep Baltimore out of the NFL)

But, many in Baltimore support the Capitals.  Granted, it's due to our lack of an NHL team, but not many in Baltimore rooted for the Redskins in the 13 years between the Colts and Ravens.  

In baseball, most Orioles fans are pretty indifferent to the Nationals.  Though, it's neat to be able to drive 45 minutes to see a road game.  
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The Bay Area thing is funny, and contradictory, because the Raiders are supposedly "bad" guys and the 49'ers, as they said in that Simpson's episode, are 'pure of heart', but it's reversed for baseball, with the A's are nice guys and the Giants are jerks.    (I know I know, maybe not Buster Posey...) .

I think the theory is that was it Skip Bayless or Scott Ostler, I forget, that the personae of a team is dictated by their fans and not the other way around. 
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The Bay Area thing is funny, and contradictory, because the Raiders are supposedly "bad" guys and the 49'ers, as they said in that Simpson's episode, are 'pure of heart', but it's reversed for baseball, with the A's are nice guys and the Giants are jerks.    (I know I know, maybe not Buster Posey...) .

I think the theory is that was it Skip Bayless or Scott Ostler, I forget, that the personae of a team is dictated by their fans and not the other way around. 


The Raiders are sort of seen as "bad guys" throughout the country, even during their lean years after their Super Bowl XXXVII appearance.  I don't know if that reputation will follow them to Las Vegas.  

Speaking of the Bay Area, this little band from the Bay Area is still doing quite well

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Speaking as an officially old oldster, am I correct in understanding these complaints about contemporary music are referring to what's the most popular today?

But we used to hear what was popular in the 60s because we all listened to the same AM radio station (or two or maybe three) and they kept telling us what was popular by playing it over and over and putting out highly-publicized lists every week (the top 30 or 40). There was Hit Parader magazine you could find at the drugstore and fan magazines mostly read by girls, and a few TV shows for teenagers like Shindig, and if an act was really popular, they'd appear on one of the weekly variety shows watched by the whole family on one of the three (in the US) networks. 

Today, there is so much music being made and so many ways to listen to music that, like I said earlier this week, it's impossible to keep up with all the good stuff or explore all the good stuff that's now available (basically for free).

I've heard of Ed Sheerhan but have no idea who he is or what he does. Like I've heard of Kanye West and Taylor Swift and Katy Perry but would have to go out of my way to listen to a single thing they've ever done (like I found that Taylor Swift song this week because it was in the news and then posted it to see if it would evoke a response from someone). Like there was that period when "boy bands" were the big thing, but I never heard anything by Justin Timberlake and have never heard anything by One Direction until today (for 15 seconds).

I just found Billboard's list of the Top 100 Artists, which they put online every week. They add radio airplay, sales data, streaming data and social activity. This week their top 10 artists are:

Bruno Mars
Imagine Dragons
Ed Sheerhan
Brand New
Kendrick Lamar
Shawn Mendes
DJ Khaled
Justin Bieber
Kodak Black
Charlie Puth

Last week, Kesha was #1.

http://www.billboard.com/charts/artist-100

I could understand complaining about these people (whoever they are and whatever they do - aside from Imagine Dragons, who Tom reminded me of yesterday) if it was hard to listen to anything else, but since there is so much else, why pay any attention to them at all? Why even know who they are? 

It seems to me like we're in a city with 1,000 restaurants. There are 10 or 20 that do the most business but serve food you don't like. So you always eat somewhere else. Unless your spouse or your kids or your friends make you go to popular places you can't stand. [smile]


GGH -- Thanks for the Duffy song.


San Fermin, "Bride" (2017)

 
Arctic Monkeys, "Do I Wanna Know?" (2013)


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Larry,

To borrow your restaurant analogy.  I think my opinion on music today is this..

We have a city with 1000 restaurants.  

100 are massively successful, but have awful food.

200 have potential, but try too hard to be like the top 10-20

200 are really good, but their food tastes like a watered down version of the grandma's great old cooking.  

200 restaurants are really good, and have great food and service, but they have to shut down due to bad locations or lack of customers.  

200 restaurants are great, but you have to drive two hours to get there, and go down strange unmarked roads.  

100 are really good, centrally located eateries.  


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Larry Franz

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Ok, I'm going out to get a couple slices at what I think is the best pizza place around here, and there are lots of pizza places around here!

Arcade Fire, "Everything Now" (2017)


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John B

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 yes, Larry, regarding diversity.  (enter, Grandpa Simpson[smile] But what I would ask you guys, wasn't it...comforting to know that when the Beatles sold a lot, or when Elvis sold a lot, there was musical quality involved?  is it possible that the powers that be who decided which songs got played, or the record companies who decided who got signed (I know, download companies, now?), were better back then than they are now?   Why should terribleness be #1?  and then we have to hear that terribleness repeated everywhere you go?     

have to mull over that restaurant analogy.  Generally, I do not like restaurants.  take last night.  a steak dinner for 65$?  no not me, for my son.  But I had a bite.  not bad, but my spouse could have done it better. 
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