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John B

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yet, my favorite song of all-time, 'Don't Worry Baby', was recorded two weeks before 'Meet the Beatles' was released.  'The Warmth of the Sun' too.  'In My Room' was recorded the previous July (1963).   
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Cantina Margarita

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I'll have to wait a bit. I could go and watch it in some nearby big city. But why should I ? We'll have Yesterday for Christmas in our local smalltown UCI.
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Darren J. Ray

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Hope we haven't spoiled for you, mate. 
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John B

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Cool Aussies can use 'mate' for both genders...

(further spoiler/ignore)

yes, the movie is well worth seeing.  Just my most appreciated moments were related to the protagonist's genuine (and very understandable) angst at playing his music and upset because no one caring or really even listening.  Even his close friends and parents, they keep interrupting and only minimally listening when he plays a genuinely great Beatles song.  So he gets mad at their lack of respect their lack of appreciation, their lack of love for great music.  and they respond that he's just stuck-up because they didn't know this was a great song they should respect as classic and whatnot.  This adds quite a bit of depth and questions that the movie unfortunately does not cash in on later.

Yet, as Darren points out, following the logic of this movie, all the people who ignored his performances were right all along.  When he tried to slide in his summer song with the Beatles ones, the snobby Los Angeles music biz people immediately noticed it was inferior.  He was pedestrian.  That's why everyone ignored his music.  That's the only reason.  People in general, being so smart and caring you see.  Thus, again, had this movie gone more in the direction of 'Liverpool Fantasy', I would have liked it immeasurably better.  People are not always so smart and caring.   Witness outcomes in political contests, for example and lack of a new generation Brian Wilson on the radio.

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The other points of quibble, I would have, revolve about (faux-movie/clich├ęd) ethics.  In the audience, we are preconditioned to want our protagonist to 'come clean' or else he would not be pure enough for the true love of his longtime requited love interest/manager.  So when he does so, in an impossibly outlandish, movies-only way, we are supposed to feel relieved.  NOW, that he has apologized, he is finally worthy of the superior female love interest, that schmuck.  way to go.

BUT, having said that, what if he had looked at the camera, Woody Allen like, later in the film, and announced.  'You know, I think I have an idea of how we can make some money.  I've been thinking of writing a novel about a fantastical school of...wizards.  I think I'll call it 'Hogwarts'.  and this main wizard, I'll call Harry Potter.    But that would be a lessor lie than taking the place of the Beatles, so I think the audience would be allowed to accept that...
 But we never even get that far, because as a 'good' movie guy, he is beyond that, 100% honest he is, and she is, so they are good and poor.  The end.
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Darren J. Ray

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John B, I did enjoy reading that and chuckled at your suggested end. Instead we got the sappy finish!
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Verden McCutcheon

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  Season 10 week 33....Make it Short

                   1)Think about the days...love this track


                   2)This beautiful Day...a close second


                   3)Lucky Old  Sun......Good but not crazy about the spoken parts


                   4)Our prayer.......not crazy about accappella



                                                                            good battle theme !



           
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Cantina Margarita

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In return, and in order to spoil your next theatre visit:

Goethe's Faust seems to be new and unknown for you guys. Here it is.



Now you know what's going on.
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Al Forsyth

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Okay, NOT the short version but extended demo and of course the last 30 seconds from this (maybe) appear on the White Album. 

Paulo - leads off his solo album short.

John - keeping it real:
youtube.com/watch?v=aiJmThIwnKM

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Larry Franz

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Under a Minute, No Words

featuring the Beach Boys, Beach Fossils, Camera Obscura, Antoine Diligent, Brian Eno, Fleet Foxes, Gem Club, Milo Greene, the Flaming Lips, the High Llamas, Nine Inch Nails, San Fermin, Sufjan Stevens, the War on Drugs, Yo La Tengo and Frank Zappa.

It's 29 tracks so it must be less than 29 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnzY8RQcl4WBMC2l_T_OlGVf3cu2wMRyT
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Lisa G/TS

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Okay Cantina, in keeping with the theme, I'll be brief:

GOLD -- Our Prayer 

SILVER -- This Beautiful Day

BRONZE -- That Lucky Old Sun  (thin margin between Silver and Bronze for me)

TIN -- Think About the Days

A couple more Beatles (can you stand it, folks?) While the full version of this could be the longest this week at 1:41, one run through of the lyrics takes just under 30 seconds. I seem to remember reading or hearing somewhere John once jokingly sang it back as "Why Don't You Put it on the Toast":



While not technically a song, at all of 2 seconds, it probably remains the shortest curiosity on vinyl. (The upload is not me but I first heard it in 1980 on this album which I still have...it's one of the early pressings where they forgot the "produced by George Martin" on the back cover. Egad!):



Great challenge, Cantina! Thanks!
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Tom Tobben

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Getting in before the deadline this week. Cantina, this was an excellent and challenging battle. If our moderator weren't so opposed to ties, I could easily give this week's battle a four-way tie. But, since I'm not supposed to do so:

Gold -- "This Beautiful Day", Brian Wilson. What a gorgeous little piece, melody, vocals/harmonies, arrangement. Brian does this short stuff so well. Based on his various musical  "feels", perhaps, without extending them into full-length songs.

Silver -- "Our Prayer", Beach Boys. This could easily have been my gold too, but I suppose I've heard it so many times that it's lost a bit of its early luster for me. Darren, I agree with you that the original 20/20 version is perhaps the best. 

Bronze -- "Think About the Days", Beach Boys. This could easily have been my gold too. Similar comments as above for "This Beautiful Day". I love the subtle piano -- reminds me of a bit of mellow Gershwin or Satie. (Darren, for what it's worth, Jeffrey Foskett WAS a member of the touring Beach Boys for a number of years before he joined Brian's band.)

Tin -- "Lucky Old Sun", Brian Wilson. This gorgeous intro song could easily have been my gold too. I suppose the only reason it didn't rank higher for me was that it wasn't written by Brian like the other three pieces were. 

A few more "shorties" that I don't think have been posted yet:

A very Brian-esque song, "The Rest Is Silence", from Glenn Campbell's excellent Ghost on the Canvas album near the end of his life:


McCartney's "Ram On" reprise from his delightful Ram album:


"Tommy's Holiday Camp" from the Who's Tommy album:


The lovely "Rachel" from Seals & Crofts' Unborn Child album:


From Dan Fogelberg's excellent album The Innocent Age, here's "Aireshire Lament":


"I Never Thought I'd Live to Be A Million", from the Moody Blues' album To Our Children's Children's Children:


Excellent battle week, Cantina!
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Cantina Margarita

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Hi battlers,
please excuse that in this hosting week, I don't seem to be as entertaining as I used to be on other occasions. Busy, busy. I'm glad that at least you're telling me that my song selection is a bit interesting.
I appreciate your contributions as usual, and thank you for your votes so far.
Now I'll have look if I can find something very brief by Helge Schneider. Wish me bad luck ...
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Lisa G/TS

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Now how in blue blazes could I overlook "Ram On", one of my favourite Macca "quickies", so to speak? 

I can't come up with any other "quickies" to offer. However, with all the Beatles discussions - including a lookback at the recent movie "Yesterday", thought I'd throw in this brief comic intermission. (Methinks Dana was the voice of Macca in that "Colbert" clip I posted last week, so that's the bad news, Darren. The good news is he pokes fun at Kanye, the Kardashians....and Caitlyn - formerly Bruce - Jenner):



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Darren J. Ray

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If our moderator weren't so opposed to ties, I could easily give this week's battle a four-way tie.


Ha! You know I don't make the rules. Just in my weeks I ask the voters to grow a pair and make a decision! Like I say, four songs - how hard can it be?

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Darren, for what it's worth, Jeffrey Foskett WAS a member of the touring Beach Boys for a number of years before he joined Brian's band.


Not worth a dime. If he wasn't waving to us on the album cover, he shouldn't have been the most dominant voice on the album. Tom, why do you think we never saw film clips of them singing any of the songs on the album, including the two singles?

Image result for That's Why God Made the Radio back cover photo


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Methinks Dana was the voice of Macca in that "Colbert" clip I posted last week, so that's the bad news, Darren.


Ha! Just further proof that Americans should never try to impersonate Beatles!




 
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David W

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My "brief" votes :

GOLD: Our Prayer 

SILVER: This Beautiful Day

BRONZE: Lucky Old Sun 

TIN: Think About The Days 

Here you go , Short Somgs fo Short People 101 songs on one album


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