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Larry Franz

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Here we go again. This week's songs are ones I've thought about using in the battle but never did. They're all more than 50 years old and less than three minutes long. None of them have been in the battle before. Neither has Patsy Cline.

 
Patsy Cline -- "Walkin' After Midnight" (1957). Written by two gentlemen I never heard of.

If that one doesn't work, this one might:

youtube.com/watch?v=owpdDjsErA4

 

Lesley Gore -- "Maybe I Know" (1964). Written by Jeff Barry and Ellie Greenwich.

 

The Beach Boys -- "In the Parkin' Lot" (1964). Written by Brian and Roger Christian.

 

Peter and Gordon -- "I Go To Pieces" (1965). Written by Del Shannon.

 

If you'd like to post your own songs this week, you might post some you've thought about using in the battle but never did. Or songs you thought some host should use in the battle. Favorites from any era, either more or less than three minutes long, would also be good.

To participate, simply rank these four songs:

Patsy Cline -- "Walkin' After Midnight"
Lesley Gore -- "Maybe I Know"
The Beach Boys -- "In the Parkin' Lot"
Peter and Gordon -- "I Go To Pieces"

And happy Labor Day to all my fellow Americans.

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Darren J. Ray

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Oh boy!

Good battle. 

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If you'd like to post your own songs this week, you might post some you've thought about using in the battle but never did.


Nice idea.

Following that, please put your name down for a week and use those same songs you've thought of in an actual battle.

We need volunteers. 

Larry, thank you for using the hit version of 'Walkin' After Midnight'. [thumb]
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It's a Larry week.  A Larry week is always a good week.  

What a pity it's such a narrowly-themed week.  There's almost nothing out there.

I recently wanted to use the Zombies, but this song had already been in the battle.



And Johnny Cash.  What an oxymoron this rendition is, but always intriguing.







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Patsy Cline -- "Walkin' After Midnight"...A true classic.  Hard to beat...and so?  It's golden.  1st.
The Beach Boys -- "In the Parkin' Lot"...The shape of things to come...and silver.  2nd.
Peter and Gordon -- "I Go To Pieces"...A good song...just not quite good enough in this crowd.  3rd.
Lesley Gore -- "Maybe I Know"...Another good song.  She had better though.  This comes in last.

4 good [to great] songs.

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Larry, this is tough.  Agreeing with Bonnie, a good "Larry week".

Patsy is a major classic but I have a weak spot for I Go To Pieces....

Soo Gold - I Go To Pieces (love everything about this) - It just gets to me (see below)
A STRONG second - Silver to Patsy and really a classic song that isn't only country
The BB's album cut comes next because I've always loved this one.
Finally the Lesley song, which is good, but it borders on the poppy schlock that gave us the door opening for the Beatles t pull us out of that!

Do it Del:

Beach Boys "treble up" - Four On The Floor - but the Beatles came - Murry was gone. 

Did it need Lesley?  Brill Building and Quincy Jones (he hand picked her). Nope:

Making in sultrier


I can't imagine putting in songs that I could have/wanted to use.  But here's one - as I've learned that one does have to set up a competition here, not just fave versions of songs. I used Ray instead of course. 


So many other artists to use - but can't.
Nice week!!!!

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Larry, you knocked it out of the park this week!  It's so great to hear a totally 60's group of songs.  One of them is a real favorite of mine and here it is for the gold:

Gold:  Peter and Gordon for I Go To Pieces.  I LOVE this one!  It's so nice to hear a true heartbreak song from long ago.  Thanks for this!  They just have a more honest vibe to them that is so unlike the vengeful or stalking lyric of today's break-up songs are.  One exception is The Police's Every Breath You Take is one of my most liked songs of all time.  Sting had commented that it was a horrible song because of the stalking nature of it.  Setting that aside, it's still a fine song musically and vocally.
  
Silver:  The Beach Boys for In The Parkin' Lot.  Actually, I've never heard this one before.  You just can't beat those vocal harmonies by the Boys.

Bronze:  Patsy Cline for Walkin' After Midnight.  I don't really get into the country sound, but I cannot deny the obvious talent of Ms. Cline.  What a voice!

Tin:  Lesley Gore for Maybe I Know.  I do like the song, so it's a shame to put it here, but kind of the same ol' thing is what gets the last position.  

That's my critique for this week's battle.



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A really good week, Larry.

I’ll vote now because it’s a busy one and I know these records well. But I’ll continue to enjoy them throughout the week.

Gold - Walkin’ After Midnight (Patsy Cline - 1957)
The opening track to the 25 Great American Country & Folk Artists Singing Their Original Hits album on Majestic Records that I spent much of my childhood listening to.

Image result for 25 Original Country and Folk Hits Majestic Records

Silver - Maybe I Know (Lesley Gore - 1964)
My favourite Lesley Gore song. Catchy as. We do it in our ‘60s show. Saw Lesley live with the Legends of Rock tour here in ’89. She was the best act.

Bronze - I Go to Pieces (Peter and Gordon - 1964)
The Rachel Sweet version would’ve gotten my Gold – one of my favourite records ever. No-one can sing the word ‘shaky’ like Rachel. Credit to Del Shannon (who wrote it but also covered it following this original hit version). Great song with plenty of covers. But I don’t think this is the best version. I’m tipping the Americans here will place this higher than the Brits, reflecting its chart action. Peter and Gordon are a remnant of America’s mid ‘60s fascination with all things British. The US took to this pair (and The Dave Clark Five) more than the UK. Americans here will favour it because most of them were teenagers in the ‘60s and grew up with it. Two Everly Brothers wannabes who got lucky because one of them had a sister whom McCartney fancied and doors subsequently opened. Asher’s luck held out when he was gifted James Taylor. As for actual talent, give me Freddie and the Dreamers over Peter and Gordon any day.



Participant - In the Parkin’ Lot (The Beach Boys - 1964)
Not a song I’ve ever really paid much attention to. Maybe a Gold in lesser weeks. But not where pop was heading. The performance is better than the song. Definitely just an album track. 
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Larry Franz

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Gosh. Thanks for your kind remarks, everyone.

Darren -- At first I thought you were implying that Patsy Cline had a non-hit version of her song. Then I thought you must have been referring to some cover version. Then I read about the song on Wikipedia and see what you meant.

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Alan Block and Donn Hecht wrote the song in 1954. [It was] originally intended for traditional pop artist Kay Starr [but] it was left unused for years. Hecht pawned his furniture, had a demo made ... and played the demo for Cline's producer, who then played it to Cline over the telephone. Her first reaction ... was negative; however, [she] agreed to record it as long as she could also record "A Poor Man's Roses (Or a Rich Man's Gold)", a song she favored.

On January 28, 1957, Cline was invited to perform a song on [the TV program] Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts. She originally intended to perform "A Poor Man's Roses"... instead the show's producers preferred "Walkin' After Midnight". Although Cline did not want to sing it, ... the excessive amount of audience applause caused a technical difficulty and froze the applause meter on the show.... Cline won first place... [Decca released a single that peaked at #2 on the country chart and #12 on the pop chart.] 

Cline later re-recorded "Walkin' After Midnight" ... with a more "pop" arrangement that featured backing vocals and a pronounced "clip clop" percussion effect ... this version is sometimes heard as an "oldie" on country playlists, it is not the version that was the hit single.


I looked at your Original Hits album cover and can't say I recognize any of the other songs or most of the artists. Perhaps there are little-known gems there?

It's great that you appreciate "Maybe I Know" (I was starting to worry about Lesley) and you may be right about many Americans being too enamored of what we refer to as the British Invasion. But I think Peter, Gordon and their colleagues did a "smashing" job on Del's song. 


bonnie --
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What a pity it's such a narrowly-themed week.  There's almost nothing out there.

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If you'd like to post your own songs this week, you might post some you've thought about using in the battle but never did. Or songs you thought some host should use in the battle. Favorites from any era ... would also be good.

I'm taking your remark as highly ironic, but I don't know if irony is a Kiwi thing. [smile]

At first I thought Johnny Cash was being ironic when he recorded "You Are My Sunshine" in the gloomiest way possible. But his lyrics say he's already lost his sunshine and all his dreams have been shattered, poor bastard.  


Lee -- Yes, "In the Parkin' Lot" shows the shape of things to come with its opening and closing harmonizing, which nicely captures that melancholy feeling when the grass was all covered with morning dew and the school day was imminent. 

Two companion pieces would be "She Rides With Me" (fooling around during lunch) and "Dance, Dance, Dance" (after six hours of school).


Al -- Thanks for those great videos you posted. I didn't know Ellie Greenwich was more than a songwriter. But I think Quincy was right and "Maybe I Believe" did benefit from the great Lesley's participation.

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I can't imagine putting in songs that I could have/wanted to use.  But here's one - as I've learned that one does have to set up a competition here, not just fave versions of songs. 

Wait a minute! Are you afraid someone else will steal one of your favorites and throw it into the competition?


Cindy -- Interesting comment on 60s innocence vs. today. I'm glad you love "I Go To Pieces". But you've never heard "In the Parkin' Lot"? I think Shut Down Vol 2 is a great album, even though it kind of peters out at the end. An album with "Fun, Fun, Fun", "Don't Worry Baby", "The Warmth of the Sun", "This Car of Mine", "Why Do Fools Fall In Love", "Keep an Eye on Summer" and "In the Parkin' Lot" has a lot going for it, without even mentioning the stinging social commentary of "Pom Pom Playgirl"!!!


Speaking of favorites, "Let Her Dance" by the Bobby Fuller Four is a song I wasn't familiar with until I began participating in the battle. I love it and was including it this week but it once came in 3rd against relatively weak competition and I figured people would downgrade it for being repetitious.

Here's their performance on Shivaree with those cool dancers in the background. "Let Her Dance" is followed by another song that's new to me, which I cannot yet recommend.
youtube.com/watch?v=bP9Xc9Nq4YU


And thanks for your votes, Lee, Al, Cindy and Darren.

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Larry, that whole "must be longer than three minutes or shorter than three minutes" thing makes it difficult too. [smile]   

Irony.  What is this??

I have a long Dennis Wilson playlist and could threaten a Denny week at any time.











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Well, since it's a statutory holiday, Labour (or Labor) Day, the only labo(u)r I'll do is listen and enter my BOTB ballot:


GOLD -- Walkin' After Midnight, Patsy Cline (aka Virginia Hensley) -- Seems almost a rite of passage with pop culture for some. going thru a phase of devouring the "West Side Story" soundtrack, later a fascination with everything you can get your paws on regarding this lady's short but remarkable life. She was feisty, probably wouldn't want to get on her bad side....but still that haunting style to her vocals along with that distinct yodel/warble. Everyone else can only aspire to be her, but there'll never be another.

SILVER -- I Go To Pieces, Peter & Gordon -- Not at all to be confused with another Patsy Cline tune with that title. Maybe the only thing haunting - and equal parts hilarious - is how that Austin Powers lookalike, (Google Image "Peter Asher" and observe the first couple of rows), was nearly Macca's brother-in-law. Nevertheless, a 60s classic that's held up better than:

BRONZE -- Maybe I Know, Lesley Gore -- Nice vocalist on a rather formulaic bubblegum girly tune. Wasn't sure what to make of Rachel Sweet - on my one and only listen, sounded like Tracey Ullman ("They Don't Know") meets Tiffany (late 80s American pop tart). Maybe it's just me....

TIN -- In The Parkin' Lot, Beach Boys -- Other than the typically fine harmonies, they'd better call AAA...this tune stalled by comparison. 

Thanks, Larry. I can think of one "also ran" that I didn't even come across until a few months AFTER my lesser known Beatles' covers week last year. The original of this George Harrison offering was only released in demo version in the late 90s on the "Anthology" collection and also available on YT I believe:



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Larry Franz

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Larry, that whole "must be longer than three minutes or shorter than three minutes" thing makes it difficult too. [smile]   

Irony.  What is this??

I have a long Dennis Wilson playlist and could threaten a Denny week at any time.

I was trying to rule out songs that are exactly three minutes. They tend to stink.

Irony? Don't have a clue.

Many here among us would welcome your Denny week.


Lisa -- Thanks for your votes. With five voters so far, the wheat is being separated from the chaff. But perhaps a few chaff supporters will show up tomorrow.

The Weeklings bill themselves as "America’s most unique tribute to the music and inspiration of THE BEATLES, performing explosive renditions of Beatles classics, uniquely arranged Beatles nuggets plus brilliant Beatles-inspired power-pop originals".

Furthermore, they're based right here in New Jersey. What more could you want?


Another one I've thought about using, including this week. Hank has never been in the battle. I think it's brilliant, but it might be considered too dark (even darker than Johnny Cash's "You Are My Sunshine").

Hank Williams -- "Ramblin' Man" (1951)
youtube.com/watch?v=V41gDDWEPso

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Thanks, Larry. 

I bought this very album, Patsy Cline's Greatest Hits, circa 1986 and was surprised and disappointed when this came on. It was recorded in '61. It's ok, but my heart lies with the original. 



Yeah, that Majestic album... I honestly spent much of my childhood sitting inside, listening to that album and The Best of the Kingston Trio, The Big Hits of the Seekers and Johnny Cash 1970. Therein lie my musical roots. 

I used to study that album cover and over the years wondered what happened to those smiling faces. 

Decades later, Wiki provided some sad answers. 

Some died young, including Cowboy Copas who died in the plane crash with Patsy Cline in '63. 

Stringbean, who later appeared on Hee Haw, was murdered, along with his wife, in their own home in '73 by robbers. 

There are definitely some gems on there. And they were all your countrymen and women. 


Lisa, I could only separate Tracey and Kirsty's versions at gunpoint. Love them both. (I'm a fan of Tiffany's 'Could've Been' too!)

(you gotta love a Macca cameo)


Yeah, America even sent this to #1 in '64!






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Here's their performance on Shivaree with those cool dancers in the background. "Let Her Dance" is followed by another song that's new to me, which I cannot yet recommend.


Larry, 'Another Sad and Lonely Night' was the flip side to 'Let Her Dance'. Great song. I bought it on iTunes a few years ago. My favourite part of that clip is 2:19. 

I first heard 'Let Her Dance' in 1981 as a track on the self-titled album by the late and great Phil Seymour. Compare the pair...


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A Dennis-only week would be soooo good!  Think more about it Bonnie!

Lisa, still my fave Beatles' cover album (and Larry, more Jersey) which brings to mind what would Larry be listening at the Jersey Shore (maybe next year)?

Plenty more where that ^ came from.

Darren, I have that Patsy album.  Don't like plane crash stories however.  Also, the FATD a classic but only thing more annoying than the choreography is that laugh.


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Gold - The Beach Boys - One of the great early BB songs that nobody knows.  

Silver - Peter and Gordon

Bronze - Patsy Cline 

Tin - Leslie Gore 
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