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stkilda4ever

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Gold: Peter and Gordon -- "I Go To Pieces".  After re-listening I've put this as gold. The boys had about half a dozen worthwhile hits.  Thanks Paul.  But there were others like this Del Shannon gem.
Silver: Patsy Cline -- "Walkin' After Midnight". Maybe it's because I heard the Patsy Cline songs featured in "Lost" TV series that tipped this ahead of Lesley Gore.  Plane crashes took out some music super stars in late '50s and early '60s.

Bronze: Lesley Gore -- "Maybe I Know".  Like her catalogue of hits.  Not an A grade song like  Judy's Turn To Cry or It's My Party - but still great pop.
Tin: The Beach Boys -- "In the Parkin' Lot".  Nice intro but then they got stuck in parking lot and couldn't shake off the 'fun fun fun' melody.


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Woah!  pump the hate brakes, Fox & Friends!

sorry...just saw and loved 'Deadpool 2' and I'm going to be overusing its funny lines even when they don't quite fit. 

this is one of those contests like T-Bedford just had, like Larry almost always has, where you have 4 great songs that ...it's just personal taste to separate.  So, this is my personal taste.

1. "In the Parking Lot"

never had this experience.  If I did...I might have liked High school!   social superiority indeed. 
I just always loved this song: the melody, the rising and falling harmonies, even...Mike's bass parts.  It's a very unusual song musically, innit?  Very original.  Who ever wrote a ...doo-wop based?  song like this?  1st place.  Humbling.  I love it.

2. "Maybe I Know" by Lesley Gore, spelled like a male first name, and wouldn't you know it?  She was as rainbow positive as Ryan Reynolds.  HATE the revisionists who put down Lesley as anti-feminism of all things.  In the early 60's.  Why not hate on black people for being hanged or beaten by cops?   Love is like Oxygen.  no, Deadpool doesn't say this until Deadpool 3.  Thanos comes back, I'm pretty sure.

3.  Peter & Gordon do Del: "I Go to Pieces"

you don't always have to call out for the rape whistle when you see old white men.!  If you doubted, this proves it.  Great song!  but man, it's so dark.  Del was like...a member of Badfinger if you know what I'm sayin... Are you sure it's not from the DC universe?

4.  "Walkin' After Midnight" by Patsy Cline.  I know I know, if not for this song... but really, she was so great, she would have just got big later, no problem.  So, 4th here.    I know, you picked it higher, and you're smarter than I look.  True...
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Larry Franz

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Darren -- Yes, clip clops can be nice, but they're too distracting on Patsy Cline's non-hit version and that Shivaree clip does have its moments. Also, I'm sorry to say, when we were 13, some friends and I lip synced "Do the Freddy" in front of the whole junior high. That kind of thing happened a lot in 1964. I regret it to this day.

Speaking of tragic deaths, Wikipedia on Bobby Fuller:
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Within months of "I Fought the Law" becoming a top 10 hit, Fuller was found dead in an automobile parked outside his Hollywood apartment. The Los Angeles deputy medical examiner ... found no bruises, no broken bones, no cuts. No evidence of beating."...  boxes for "accident" and "suicide" were checked, but next to the boxes were question marks. Despite the official cause of death, some commentators believe Fuller was murdered.

Another "Let Her Dance", very close to the original, from Marshall Crenshaw:
youtube.com/watch?v=6P6u4SCJTyo


Al -- Thanks for the Smithereens. On the other hand, I hope bonnie refrains from her all Denny week (sorry, bonnie), unless it includes vocal performances like "Do You Wanna Dance" and "This Car of Mine" and downplays Pacific Ocean Blue (although I like "You and I").


kds, stkilda & John B -- Thanks for your votes and comments. Fourteen of the sixteen possible votes have now been cast (so far there's no gold for Lesley and no tin for Peter & Gordon). The race for the top spot is very close.

John B -- We will be watching Deadpool 2. People seem to like it as much as the first one.


Here are two songs I love and have listened to many times in recent years, but would probably never use. I assume they would not fare well in competition since they're too something or other (sappy, mawkish?).

The Castells -- "So This Is Love"
youtube.com/watch?v=WOlA4pU2XBg

Joanie Sommers -- "One Boy" (from Bye Bye Birdie)
youtube.com/watch?v=MmOFty-h_ss


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Lisa G/TS

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I know, you picked it higher, and you're smarter than I look.  True...
 

Not necessarily true, John B. It occurred to me earlier today that I must have taken my Imbecile Pill when I said the P & G tune shouldn't be confused with the same title by Patsy Cline:



INCORRECT -- It was, of course, "I FALL To Pieces" by Patsy Cline, a different verb from P & G's "I GO To Pieces". 

It happens to the best of us. Oh well, at least Al and I satisfied Larry's "Jonesing" for "Joysey" artists!  [thumb]
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Lee Marshall

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Ir's My Party and Judy's Turn to Cry were 'o.k.'  Doesn't hurt to have Quincy Jones get your career underway.  But, to me, they were kid songs about being kids.  The Lesley songs I most enjoyed were...

1.  She's a Fool.  Now THIS one sounded a LOT more mature and...in fact...almost ominous.



2.  Then came an anthem...For Lesley maturity came with wheels.  And so she rolled.



3.  And while I just loathed and continue to loathe Sunshine Lollipops and Rainbows, which was just such toss-away poppycock conceived of by the HIGHLY over-rated Marvin Hamlisch*, her follow-up was terrific...especially by comparison.



[*  For me, next to Andrew Lloyd Weber who stands distinctly alone, Marvin is the most over-rated 'muzac' guy of all time.  'Take the Money and Run' wasn't just a Woody Allen movie ol' Marv 'scored' it was his life's credo.  This 'B LISTer absconded with all of Scott Joplin's credit when it came to The Entertainer.  Used in the movie 'The Sting'...Hamlisch lucked in and rode that Joplin song for the rest of his less than impressive career.]
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Al Forsyth

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Patsy Cline documentary:  Remembering Patsy

A whole lotta different sound in that voice. 

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Larry Franz

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Lisa -- You know, many residents of the Garden State are quite cosmopolitan, and invariably refer to our place of residence as Joysey, er, I mean, New Jersey.

Speaking of which, Lesley Gore was born in Brooklyn but grew up in a Jersey suburb.

Lee -- Thanks for adding some of your Lesley Gore favorites. Here's one more from her: "Boys" (written by Paul Anka)
youtube.com/watch?v=waTi-sinZTY

Al -- Thanks for the Patsy Cline documentary. What a shame that she only lived to the age of 30. Her final single: a cover of "Leavin' On Your Mind"
youtube.com/watch?v=e10MTBwIVss


A change of pace: This might be my favorite Neil Young song, but it's always seemed too long to use in the battle: the wonderful "Like a Hurricane" (studio version)
youtube.com/watch?v=kv2x4LelccE


Any more favorites out there shorter or longer than three minutes that you or someone you know could have or should have used in the battle?

Or are merely personal favorites (that aren't exactly three minutes long)?

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John B

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Yes, Lee is certainly right about Lesley Gore's privilege (but talent, too), not only with Quincy Jones, but also Klaus Ogerman (of Billie Holiday and Sinatra fame), and Bob Crewe, and the wrecking crew, and the TAMI show, and singing a telling the boy off song (she wrote) in a movie with James Brown about skiing or a party or both, and being Catwoman's assistant on 'Batman', and being the first white artist singed to Motown, and penning with her brother, a Tony award winning song from the broadway play 'Fame' called "Out Here on My Own" and even making a great album at age 59, with a great song she wrote, "Not the First" and the slow-downed "You Don't Own Me" that some car commercial likes now.

Critic Glenn Garvin says accurately: 'Beyoncé didn't say anything in "If I Were a Boy" that Gore hadn't already sung in "Sometimes I Wish I were a Boy" or "That's the Way Boys Are."

Anyway, for those of you who did not buy (so you might not appreciate that she deserved to have) the 5 CD Bear Family set, here are some great songs by Lesley other than 'Judy's Turn to Cry' and 'It's my Party':

The Bubble Broke (rocks!)
No Matter What you Do (rocks!)
Brink of Disaster (psychedelic!). 
I Just Don't Know if I Can (Pet-Sounds Lesley!)

I won't love you anymore (sorry),
Leave Me Alone
I Don't Care
Say, goodbye
Little Girl Go Home
Don't Call Me, I'll Call You
I'm Coolin, no Foolin'
I don't want be a Loser
That's the Way The Ball Bounces
Little Girl Go Home
True Love Goes on Forever
Live and Learn
Look of Love
Young and Foolish
Not the First
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GOLD - Peter and Gordon - "I Go To Pieces"

SILVER - Lesley Gore - "Maybe I Know"

BRONZE - The Beach Boys - "In the Parkin' Lot"

TIN - Patsy Cline - "Walkin' After Midnight"





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GOLD - Walkin' After Midnight - Fond memories of my mother singing this song when I was younger, nostalgia alone makes it my top pick!
Silver - I Go To Pieces - Listening for the first time, lovely melody
Bronze - Maybe I Know 
Tin - In The Parkin' Lot 

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Larry Franz

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Even the dreaded "Sunshine, Lollipops" got intellectual context in the first scene of Kubrick's "Lolita."

John B -- I don't think so. The very first scene behind the opening credits has an orchestra playing. And when Humbert Humbert first sees Lolita in the backyard, her transistor radio is playing that "Lolita Ya Ya" tune.

The movie trailer featuring that tune:


The scene in the backyard, in which Mrs. Haze makes Humbert an offer that includes her excellent cherry pie, so he can't refuse:
youtube.com/watch?v=lHqGIe8AZ1g


But enough cinema history. Thanks for your votes, t and liamios. We now have 10 voters and pretty close races for gold and bronze.

liamios -- I'd welcome you to the battle, but you voted in week 20. So welcome back!


Four favorites from the 80s or around there (I've never used them and neither have you): 

Bruce Springsteen -- "Point Blank" (a darker companion piece to "Like a Hurricane")
youtube.com/watch?v=l0DjrXDBJnU

Sonic Youth -- "Teen Age Riot"
youtube.com/watch?v=xvDuATZCY8I

X -- "The World's A Mess; It's In My Kiss"
youtube.com/watch?v=r-U6dXK4Mig

The Cramps -- "The Way I Walk"
youtube.com/watch?v=2f2-2JSPNSA

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Lee Marshall

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Yes, Lee is certainly right about Lesley Gore's privilege (but talent, too),



I was NOT referring to Lesley's "privilege".  It was only about talent.  Talent so amazing, I might add, that Quincy wanted to produce her.
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So much good discussion this week.  Thanks for the link to the documentary on Patsy Cline, Al.  I'm going to try to find time to watch that.

If I did have a Denny week, this one would certainly be on it.



With a good seven seconds up my sleeve, I'd also try out the Eels.



And Tame Impala



Or even this talented Kiwi.







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thanks for fact-check, Larry, I'm going to trust you and edit.  wonder why I thought I heard the song in that transistor radio scene?  ...maybe from a promo/trailer much later?  

Lee, you should see 'DeadPool 2' out of Canadian pride!  RR is very Canadian, I think he even has a Mountie in his family, and every movie, has some pro-Canada line. 
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Larry Franz

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John B -- I don't know, but memory is much less reliable than we think it is. I clearly remember hearing the Beach Boys "Do You Wanna Dance?" at an event in 5th grade. That was three or four years before they recorded the song.

bonnie -- thanks for the videos. I especially enjoyed the Tame Impala and the implicit reminder to revisit Twin Peaks. With the Lolita scene, we are getting into a serious cherry pie situation.

youtube.com/watch?v=wdUToO1MbEw


Some older and newer favorites to maybe use one day:

Kay Starr -- "Wheel of Fortune" (1952)
youtube.com/watch?v=GzjDJQrBusg

Johnnie Ray & the Four Lads -- "Cry" (1951)
youtube.com/watch?v=XfoqXwQlsmc

Wavves -- "Stupid In Love" (2017)
youtube.com/watch?v=P1YIn8wT0lg

The Magnetic Fields -- "When You Were My Baby" (1995) (with a picture of the great Buster Keaton, who I think was much better than Charlie Chaplin)
youtube.com/watch?v=LrdbDcRt6FM

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