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Darren & John B -- Thanks for your votes. With seven voters so far, the new kids on the block are way behind, as expected and as usual (new kids are hardly ever appreciated in their new neighborhood, unless they're competing with other new kids). Which of the more familiar kids will get the gold, however, isn't clear at all.

kds -- I think Al's other album, Live in Las Vegas, is quite good, but didn't buy A Postcard From California, and don't remember hearing much of it. But since Darren hasn't invested in No Pier Pressure, I don't feel too bad about ignoring A Postcard From California.


Elliott Smith had recorded the songs for his album From a Basement on the Hill and arranged for it to be mixed when he was found in his house with two stab wounds to the chest. It seems to have been suicide but the coroner's report was inconclusive. The album was released in 2004, one year after his death.

Another album of unreleased material, New Moon, was released in 2007, but I think From a Basement on the Hill counts as his final studio album. This is "Let's Get Lost".



One more from that album: "Twilight"  youtube.com/watch?v=sJthA4l8S5U



Larry, 

I have Al's Family and Friends Live Album too, and it's really good.  

If you're not sold on NPP, I'm probably not going to sell you on Al's studio album, especially considering its padded with such remakes as CA Saga: CA, Help Me Rhonda, and Honkin Down the Highway (which I actually prefer to the Love You version).  

But, I think it's worth owning for Don't Fight the Sea, which features Carl, Brian, Mike, and Bruce.  

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If you're not sold on NPP, I'm probably not going to sell you on Al's studio album....

Personally, I'm almost totally sold on NPP. 

When I play NPP as it was released, I do skip two tracks: "Our Special Love" because I don't like Peter Hollens's singing and "Sail Away", I guess because the lyrics are boring.

I usually play a rearranged NPP, however, that doesn't have those two tracks but does include some favorites from TWGMTR. I think it's a great mixture, a set of songs Brian should really be proud of.


PS:  My NPP/TWGMTR compilation ends with these six tracks. It's a A Brian Wilson / Beach Boys Playlist: "Think About the Days"


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Hi Larry.  An excellent theme this week.  Not always the most excellent musical performances of their careers, but always interesting to hear and compare.

Two albums that came out recently from established artists.  Blondie, from their latest album, released just six months ago.  It's called Pollinator.  Debbie is now an avid bee-keeper, it seems.  From wiki:

In summer 2017, Blondie undertook a co-headlining tour of the US with the band Garbage, in which Debbie Harry appeared onstage in full Honey Bee regalia. In keeping with the Pollinator album, the costume was designed as a statement about the dwindling bee population and environmental health. A fledgeling beekeeper herself, Harry also wore a full-length cape which declared: "STOP F@*KING THE PLANET" in large block letters.[13]



And somebody who I have recently been introduced to; Nick Cave, from his 2016 album Skeleton Tree. 








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The sad part of this topic is the one where the artist is not with us any more:
https://www.vevo.com/watch/david-bowie/valentines-day-(video)/USRV31300004

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Personally, I'm almost totally sold on NPP. 

When I play NPP as it was released, I do skip two tracks: "Our Special Love" because I don't like Peter Hollens's singing and "Sail Away", I guess because the lyrics are boring.

I usually play a rearranged NPP, however, that doesn't have those two tracks but does include some favorites from TWGMTR. I think it's a great mixture, a set of songs Brian should really be proud of.


PS:  My NPP/TWGMTR compilation ends with these six tracks. It's a A Brian Wilson / Beach Boys Playlist: "Think About the Days"




I apologize Larry.  I misread your post as you alluded to Darren not signing off on NPP.  

Sail Away is actually my favorite song on the album.   The only two I skip are Runaway Dancer and Guess You Had to Be There.
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Sail Away is actually my favorite song on the album.   The only two I skip are Runaway Dancer and Guess You Had to Be There.

No problem at all. And (wouldn't you know) "Guess You Had To Be There" is one of my favorites and I also like "Runaway Dancer".

I sometimes think that last one refers to Brian's former bandmate and the controversial termination of their highly-publicized reunion. Mike has been known to dance on stage (in a way) and Brian's position is that Mike ran away from the reunion to go back to his heavy touring schedule (a runaway dancer).

We can't let go
There's something in the air tonight
You've got to know
This time we're bound to get it right
It's the topic of conversation
Everyone on the street
Lookin' over the situation
Feel the beat

She doesn't give you an explanation
Standing out in the rain
There's a lack of communication
Can't explain
Yeah, it's been the talk of the town
She's walkin' round everywhere
Looking for an answer
Someone caught her foolin' around
Acting like she don't care
Runaway dancer


bonnie -- That's one more reason to appreciate Debbie Harry. The world needs healthy bees. I have my doubts from a fashion perspective, but that long white cape is pretty cool.

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The sad part of this topic is the one where the artist is not with us any more:
https://www.vevo.com/watch/david-bowie/valentines-day-(video)/USRV31300004

Yes, "their last album" can be sad on one hand (their final one) and happy on the other (their most recent). 

Sufjan Stevens's most recent album, Carrie & Lowell, is beautiful but also sad.

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The songs were inspired by the 2012 death of his mother, Carrie, and the family trips they took to Oregon in Stevens' childhood.

Lowell was Carrie's second husband. He helped Stevens found his record company, Asthmatic Kitty.

Sufjan Stevens, "No Shade in the Shadow of the Cross"

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Brian does not have to make a 'Smile' every time, so I certainly like 'NPP', and only skip 2 songs: 'Don't Worry' and 'Tell me Why'.  NOT because of Brian's parts--they're great, I just can't bear the lyrics.  I suppose I usually skip 'In the Back of My Mind' too, cause I know the other one so well, and prefer it.  'Somewhere Quiet' is not as good as 'Summer Means New Love'--but I do usually play it, not always.   I will allow that this summer, when my Mom who is the same age as Mike, comes out to visit, 'NPP' is the perfect CD to pop in on the way to a winery, etc., cause my Mom and my 40-something wife like it a lot.  I count it as a success.  But Joe is not nearly good enough to collaborate on Brian's songs, he's just not...
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Funny how everyone has completely different skipable NPP tracks and completely different songs that they adore.   


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I agree.  Maybe by design it comes off as a smorgasbord, a little bit here here and here for all people.  So, naturally, it feels like too much compromise.  I can get very critical of the lyrics on most of the Joe songs, actually, other than 'Right Time'.  for example, 'Last Song' is so Hallmark, and ...overwrought?  it seems like it's going against Brian's personality.  Still I play it for the musical bits, which I like. 

Suppose I could be accused of hypocrisy, since I've made peace with the Landy lyrics on 'Sweet Insanity' which are worse than Joe's (e.g., Brian bragging (?) about how music had brought him riches and fame, lots of people know my name.  groan.  that's your therapist, Bri, not you.  and how his mother and brothers never cared about him.  How can I give those a pass when Joe is a better guy by far?  Fair point.  I'm guilty.  Maybe by the simple act of playing 'Sweet Insanity' songs so much more times, I've groan I mean grown immune to the lyrical errors/& ineptness and love the musicality. 
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GOLD:  Buffalo Springfield, "On the Way Home"

SILVER: Brian Wilson, "Whatever Happened"

BRONZE: The Beach Boys, "Isn't It Time"

TIN: San Fermin, "Bride"



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what a task!
not the picking 'twist your entries,
but contributing our peripheral choices...
here, partly because we were at their final concert,
11 dec 1982, here in brighton,
remarkable, emotional and exciting occasion, indeed.
just a few months after their 6th album 'the gift' was released.
for me, not their greatest album - too smooth
(though i loved where walker went with the style council),
though it was their only number 1 album.
here's a fab single from it.
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thanks, paul g a, for the Jam. The greatest and most important English popular rock band after the Beatles/before the Smiths, I like to say.  Speaking from an oblivious American point of view, no group was ever more underrated.  The tapes don't lie, either: one of the all-time greatest live bands, including the funky songs from 'the Gift'-- all became better than the actual record.    
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All quite good this week.  Never heard the non-Brian ones before.

GOLD Whatever Happened - I barely recall this song, so I obviously don't listen to this album much.  I don't listen to any of my albums much, to be honest.
It's a bit too processed

SILVER Isn't It Iime (no, it isn't... that was a typo).  Also a bit too much processing

BRONZE On The Way Home - it's a bit too.... something.

TIN Bride.  

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t. & D.A.N. (you guys have a lot of periods to type): Thanks for your votes. There's still no real indication who's going to win, but there's a real strong indication who isn't.

In personal news today, we bought a new car for the first time in 14 years. The thing has all kinds of electronics and lots of optional settings. I was surprised to see that it doesn't have a CD player. It's assumed that you use the radio, including satellite radio, or you connect your phone or whatever to the car in order to play your favorite music. I'm glad we will still have one of our old cars that has a great CD player.

Maybe I'll buy a Wolf Alice CD to play when I can find a CD player. Bonnie posted "Don't Delete the Kisses" by Wolf Alice last year. It's from their 2nd album, last year's Visions of a Life.



One more from the same album: "Space and Time": 

youtube.com/watch?v=CWt74rDo-tg

Would Wolf Alice have done better this week than San Fermin? We'll never know. San Fermin, by the way:

"... is the brainchild of Brooklyn's Ellis Ludwig-Leone, an artist with a broad musical background who pursued musical studies at Yale and sharpened his teeth working with avant-garde classical composer Nico Muhly (who has worked with Bjork, Antony & the Johnsons, Sufjan Stevens and Grizzly Bear)."


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Funny how everyone has completely different skipable NPP tracks and completely different songs that they adore.   

It is funny, even weird. I could say variety is the spice of life but in some cases these other opinions are just wrong!  [smile]


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Getting a bit morbid here BUT hard to believe that THIS was from her last album!




An unbelievable talent!!!

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