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t bedford

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t. & D.A.N. (you guys have a lot of periods to type):


Larry, there are no periods in t bedford, and I cannot be held responsible for any punctuation that you personally feel the need to add.
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If someone's last album is a greatest hits live-in-the-studio affair, but includes 2 brand new studio tracks, is that breaking the rules? Here's one of them.

The Kinks - Animal







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Are we voting on definition of last album?  Then, I would have to say 'no' to Bedford--2 songs is not enough, when supplemental to a greatest hits collection, to warrant the title of 'last album.'  I really like that Kinks one, though.  On the other hand, as I think I love Amy Winehouse about as much as Paul Weller, which is a lot, I would vote 'Lioness' as her last album, because you get many more than 2 unreleased if not entirely "new" songs, and I think the songs are mostly very good to great.
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t -- Good point. Bad period.


t and John B -- (Lesson learned) Except for punctuation, rules are meant to be broken, especially this week's. I did specify last "studio" album, but clearly it's not always clear what is a studio album. That's the kind of question certain fans, usually male, can argue about forever. 

I was surprised to see that some people claim Abbey Road was one group's last album, not Let It Be. I also looked at Cream and was uncomfortable calling Goodbye their last studio album. It's got four live tracks and three studio tracks, but the live tracks total more than 20 minutes, while the three studio tracks last 10 minutes.

My recommendation this week is that "last studio album" be interpreted loosely, perhaps with an explanation as to why it should be viewed as their last studio album considering that it was put together from odds and ends. Hell, you can even post a good song and say you wish it had been on their last album. Voting is fine, but I'll probably only count the usual kind of votes. 


Al & John B -- I just don't get Amy Winehouse. That could be a theme one week: artists many people think are wonderful and you just don't get.


Eddie Cochran's second and final studio album was released a year before his death as Eddie Cochran. A year after his death, it was 12 of His Greatest Hits and later The Eddie Cochran Memorial Album. 

For some reason, "Twenty Flight Rock" wasn't included. "Somethin' Else" was.



One more: "Drive In Show"  youtube.com/watch?v=TAwliq2MmhA


PS: I just noticed Eddie Cochran was in high school in Bell Gardens, California, the same time I was in elementary school in La Mirada, only 10 miles away. This is something I should put in my memoirs.

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thanks, It's true, of course, not everyone believes Amy was her generation's Billie Holliday.  I do, but I don't need agreement.  Amy wrote, sang, and performed exceedingly hard-core emotional songs as best as she could, I think that's fair to say.  There's a lot of pleasant pop stars who don't do that.  I would argue that they do much less than that but again, I don't mind disagreement.

Also, if you check the Wikipedia, Amy's records assimilated very well to lots of countries and cultures, 'Lioness' even, going #1 in many countries, if only 60-something in the U.S.  The latter is perplexing to me, too, since she was even #29 in Japan and so forth.  I love my country, The U.S., but as a whole, when you cobble together all of our huge non-descript suburban and forested geographical areas, huge rock formations, ski resorts, Wall-mart parking lots, and various firearm-enthusiast militia-training areas, much of our populace...lags (?).  Is that an accurate word?
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In the case of Amy Winehouse, who I just don't get, it feels like I'm missing something I should perceive. Like there's something good or excellent there other people see but for some reason I don't. Maybe I'll get her in 10 or 20 years. That sometimes happens.

Without getting into politics or cultural practices, we can agree that "lag" is definitely a word, although I think "our populace lags" would have been better in American English (a kind of English that lags behind and forges ahead of some others). 

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thanks for help.  Isn't Larry always the best, you guys?

w/o getting into politics, but maybe cultural practice, things abroad spread slowly here, one can uh, 'blame it on the pony express' perhaps.   I'm sure there is some head-scratching abroad about why it took 'Combat Rock' to finally break the Clash, which is one of that group's lessor records.  It's true.  There was a song or two that got played on MTV, that helped.  We did not have punk groups perform on TV.  Well, not until very late, say when Paul Weller spit out his gum while performing 'Funeral Pyre' on Tom Snyder.  Had the Jam released even a bad album with one good MTV video after the Gift, they would have 'made it' in the US, I believe.  It just takes a long time. In any case, Paul did the right thing as Brian should have done in 1966, break up the group after his group gave him bleep.  The US didn't deserve the Jam.
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From Jeff Lynne's last album, Alone in the Universe.  Definitely playable.



Larry, you beat me to Wolf Alice.  I just can't help myself so will post my favourite version- love this group.



Janis Joplin's second album was also her last and released posthumously.  Yup, that's sad.



I'd skip Sail Away. 

And we call them full stops.

bonnie.bella.





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I'm with kds---I LIKE 'Sail Away'. 

'Right Time' is my fave on the record.
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Bonnie - keep us up with WA.  I was going to add Janis at some point and you got a good one! It was all here:


I HAVE to get this one:


The Byrds tried to get the original magic going again in 73:


With, Amy:

John B., Lioness was one of those cobbled albums wasn't it?
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/lioness-hidden-treasure-20111206

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So I believe that makes two votes for "Sail Away" and two votes against. (It looks like I'm counting after all.)

"Sail Away" doesn't seem to have been in the battle yet, although we've had "Sail On, Sailor" and "Full Sail" (both gold). Also, "Sailing" and "Red Sails".


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Paul did the right thing as Brian should have done in 1966, break up the group after his group gave him bleep.

Of course, that's harder to do when much of the group is your family and you're helping them make a living.


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And we call them full stops.

Does that mean commas and semi-colons are partial stops? However, aren't stops either full stops or not really stops? "But, officer, the car was partly stopped!" (I've always thought what the BOTB needs is more discussion of punctuation.)


When I chose this week's themes, I wasn't thinking about all the dead people's last albums. That seems right for Easter weekend, however. It's now obvious which song I want to post next. From the usual place:

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Dedicated to Bobby Jameson is the 11th studio album by American recording artist Ariel Pink... [It] features a narrative Pink described in a press release as "a battery of tests and milestones, the first of which sees him [the protagonist] reborn into life out of death."

Dedicated was named in honor of Bobby Jameson, a 1960s singer-songwriter who retreated from the music industry after a series of misfortunes. In 2007, Jameson resurfaced with an autobiographical blog that alleged wrongdoing on the part of various managers and record company agents, which he maintained until his passing in 2015. Pink said that Jameson's "life resonated with me to such a degree that I felt a need to dedicate my latest record to him."


The title track, "Dedicated To Bobby Jameson"


Al -- I listened to the Byrds' last album, The Byrds, in preparation for this week. Their rather sickly cover of "Cowgirl in the Sand" was the only track that made an impression (probably due to the song's familiarity).

youtube.com/watch?v=M7Rh6OHgIR4


PS: Still only nine voters so far. I've been asked to end this battle after the passage of precisely seven days, which means very early on Monday morning in New Jersey, not around noon.  

PPS for bonnie:  If Wolf Alice becomes as popular as Blondie was, will lead singer Ellie Rowsell become known as "Alice" or even "Wolf Alice"? I know she'll often be referred to as "Ellie Roswell", because that's where the UFO crashed (no, it didn't).

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Yes, cobbled together, Al, even in the case of 'Like Smoke' not entirely finished but it doesn't sound odds and sods nor like the Kinks one cited by T-Bedford and 'Extras' by the Jam, not a really great unreleased mixed with best of thing...'Lioness' still 'feels' like Amy's last album to me. 

Larry is onto some thing with the dead peoples' songs during Easter Passover/blood on the door and bunny rabbit floating through the air weekend.!   (such as 'A Change is Gonna Come' by Sam Cooke and 'Hail Mary' by Tupac)...  of course, 'Like Smoke' by Amy & Nas
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Larry, et al.  - one could always record "The Secret Album", press one and sell for millions to the most hated man in America (take your choice on most hated).
https://www.forbes.com/video/3541734713001/#12c68db81ebe
Funny how there is a Ms. O'Leary's sound/vibe to this.

Final Talking Heads album:


I always loved the great "comeback albums". Another theme? Sunflower could be one of these.  In a way TWGMTR is.  Brian's solo album sure was.  

I see how you are putting your clips in now and fill follow suit after this. 

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ha ha, Al's presentation of Johnny Marr seemingly as a full Talking Head, reminds of the Smiths' last album, with the mental hospital title, and so many death songs, I mean, more than usual, including 'Death of a Disco Dancer' and 'Girlfriend in a Coma' etc.  "Life tends to come and go, that's okay as long as you know, life tends to come and go, no no no no no no no no no no no no no..."  Fancy that the last word sang by Morrissey on a Smiths album was "darling" (in "I Won't Share You.").  The man who once sang 'The Queen is Dead' was ...a romantic guy.
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Technically, not his final album, but American IV was the last album that Johnny Cash released during his lifetime, and it contained a very fitting finale



Rick Rubin had Cash record a ton of material towards the end, enough for two albums and a boxset, which were both released after Cash's death in 2003
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If I lived in Aussie, I might know that Cold Chisel released their last album in 2015.








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