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Darren J. Ray

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Gold - #9 Dream (John Lennon - 1974)
That opening note from Jesse Ed Davis gets me every time. The whole feel evokes reminiscence and, for me, it’s what ‘Tomorrow Never Knows’ should have sounded like. And the B-side of the single, ‘What You Got’, was cool too. Yes, I believe.



Silver - I Must Be Dreaming (Neil Sedaka - 1961)
Deb, he had way better songs than this, and those strings are so full on, but I have a lot of respect for Neil as a musician. He is a survivor, unaffected, and should definitely be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It’s a shocking oversight that he’s not. Obviously a major, major talent and writer. And apparently a good friend of Brian Wilson. (There’s a recording of a phone call between the two on YouTube. Check it out if you haven’t already.)

Bronze - Your Summer Dream (The Beach Boys - 1963)
I have a soft spot for early Brian and Boys, but this is pretty pedestrian. I was listening to Surfer Girl just a fortnight ago.

Participant - Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) (Eurythmics - 1983)
I remember when I first saw them as Eurythmics. It was two of the people from the Tourists, who’d had a hit three years earlier with ‘I Only Want to Be With You’. Little did I know that the next few years would have the airwaves filled with them. Yeah, I wasn’t into their image, but I did dig a couple of their songs. This wasn’t one of them. Another ‘80s song that’s gonna get the Blueboard treatment!
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I think Darren, out of the 3 RS interviews John Lennon did, you are quoting from the 3rd.  If memory serves, it was the 2nd where he was by far, the most bitter (and drug-addled).  I think he tried to make nice a little regarding his earlier quotes in that 1980 one, but frankly, to an Elvis fan, just too little, too late.

The punks were right: the late 60's to mid 70's was an era when hippy-favored rock stars were simply too full of themselves and their opinions over valued.  Take for example, the Jimi one about "May you never hear surf music again."    Just like in "Wild in the Streets," these boomers were very selfish and hostile towards anyone older or younger. 
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My votes :

Gold. Eurythmics

Silver. John Lennon

Bronze. Beach Boys

TIN. Neil Sedaka


If you want "dream" songs.....Kate Bush has more or less cornered the market !






and finally with a touch of the Rolf Harris ! Only she would mix a bit of digeridoo with some traditional Irish music (at the very end of the track)!

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Larry Franz

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It's called "daydreaming", but you can also do it at night. Maybe we should have called it "wakedreaming".

Bob Dylan, "Visions of Johanna": the whole thing slowly, or two electric verses quickly.

youtube.com/watch?v=3AxfGzW7AdY

youtube.com/watch?v=UG8Hi-fpyLI


Radiohead, "Daydreaming"
youtube.com/watch?v=TTAU7lLDZYU

The Temptations, "Just My Imagination"
youtube.com/watch?v=M5Z9-QCmZyw

The Chi-Lites, "Have You Seen Her"
youtube.com/watch?v=kug7QznjVAs

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thanks, David W.: Kate is great!
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Deb#1

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Hey, Lee, I only asked about “the Immigrant” because as I was setting the week up I read the following quote from Philip Cody on Songfacts:
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Neil Sedaka made the Top-40 13 times from 1958-1963, but then he was conquered by the British Invasion. His second act came in 1974, when "Laughter In The Rain," released on Elton John's record label, rocketed to #1. More hits followed, including "The Immigrant" and "Bad Blood" - all written with the lyricist Philip Cody.
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“Songfacts: You mentioned that you were really happy when you heard "The Immigrant." How did that one come about?”
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: I wanted to write a song for my dad. My dad came to this country; he wanted to be a singing star. He worked in the chorus of the Metropolitan Opera before he got married, and then put down his singing career to become a tradesman. My dad and I, up until I was about 28, were constantly at each other's throats. He wasn't real happy with the direction I'd taken. He thought I was destined to be a bum for the entirety of my life. And then he actually went into a recording studio in Sicily and did a version of "Solitaire" in Italian. And then I said, Wow, I've scored with my dad. My dad thinks I'm cool now. So I thought as payback I would try to write about my dad's point of view of coming to this country and how much promise there was. 
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And, of course, at that time we were starting to see immigration problems. I think I was watching a news report, and I remember thinking, That's not the way Americans treat people who come to our country. And I wanted to write about that.”
http://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/philip_cody/

Now, I don’t really know how credible Songfacts is, so I looked further and right from Mr Sedaka’s Facebook page:
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Neil Sedaka
 May 9, 2013 
 I wrote this song for my friend John Lennon during his immigration battles in the 1970s. I’ll never forget when I called to tell him about it. Overwhelmed by the gesture, he said, "Normally people only call me when they want something. It’s very seldom people call you to give you something. It’s beautiful."
 Neil Sedaka - The Immigrant
???? Perhaps it could be a little of both?
One of the best anecdotes about the deportation incident had John and Yoko declaring their Dakota apartment the Embassy of Nutopia.
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“We announce the birth of a conceptual country, Nutopia. Citizenship of the country can be obtained by declaration of your awareness of Nutopia. Nutopia has no land, no boundaries, no passports, only people. Nutopia has no laws other than cosmic. All people of Nutopia are ambassadors of the country. As two ambassadors of Nutopia, we ask for diplomatic immunity and recognition in the United Nations for our country and our people.”

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Deb, you probably know this but John died on Monday, the 8th of December at 11:00pm, New York time.

Darren, I do associate December 8th with Lennon’s death. It’s one of the times of my life that I can recall as if it was yesterday.  It started with a phone call from a friend as I was not watching TV or listening to any radio.  But yes, for at least half the world it would have been the 9th.
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He may have been on to something too, nine happens to be the "magic number of the universe".

bonnie, my magic numbers are the numbers that would win a lottery mega jackpot.  That’s one of my favorite daydreams.  I couldn’t find that the number 9 is the “magic number of the universe". I remember number 42 in “The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy” was the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything".  Regarding Dennis, he was really on his way to developing his own sound. I don’t have POB but I do have Bambu from Record Store Day last year.  The talent in the Wilson family was amazing.
John B, thanks for getting in the vote.  Being a “little devil” I think you just might be considered contrary to think it would be considered contrary to place Neil Sedaka's song over St. John's.  Some really like Neil Sedaka. [biggrin]  Here’s the A Side.

Thanks, David for the votes.  Kate Bush is a prolific dreamer.  And the didgeridoo is daydreamy.

Meanwhile it is cool with more rain on the way tomorrow.  Here’s a spot that got drenched about 10 miles from me.
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Larry has a few songs up for us to nightdream by. And  I leave you with a little Hendrix:

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Time, time, time
See what's become of me
While I looked around
For my possibilities
I was so hard to please”

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Well, just to clarify, I was always a Neil Sedaka fan, and have about...5 or 6 of his albums.  I remember, calling into KOMA-AM, when I lived near the station in Moore, Oklahoma (a HUGELY powerful transmitting station--because I later heard it in South East Texas at night), and requesting early Neil Sedaka songs.   Sometimes, they would respond with a contemporary (70's) Neil Sedaka song.   I guess I should feel okay with that in retrospect, since it was not an oldies station, but current Top-40, and the DJ's knew I was a little kid.  But I just couldn't understand why they wanted to play this boring slow version of "Breaking Up is Hard to Do."  Didn't they know there was a much better faster version?
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Darren J. Ray

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John B, it's definitely a quote from the Andy Peebles BBC interview. 

youtube.com/watch?v=eoJAdTuFMh0


Indeed, there is much evidence that John was doing heroin at the time of the Jann Wenner interview in 1970. 

And when Elvis died on the toilet seat, he reportedly had enough drugs in his system to open up his own pharmacy. 

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I've come to the realization that I have been far too tough on Elvis all these years.  While it doesn't change my opinion of ALL of that movie drek he recorded or most of the later material...although some of it was pretty darned good... ... ...2 things.

1.  His gospel stuff, at least some of it, is exceptionally good.

2.  The kernel ['cause he sure as shootin' wasn't a colonel] ruined 'it' for Elvis by making him do a whole lotta stuff that Presley just didn't want to do...including all of those idiotic movies and all of that horrid movie drivel music.  The fans were complicit as well.  Presley never had a chance to spread his talented wings and fly...to try new ideas and styles...to lean into a real acting career.

and then there's the 3rd thing.  Those leeches and hangers on who surrounded him over the last couple of years just kind of let him die.  He pretty much committed suicide in slow motion.  He didn't like what he was doing and it just ate him up as the clock ticked.  While those benefiting from his wealth took him for as much as they could for as long as the ride would last...while his real friends were turfed and ostracized.  [and yes drugs were a gigantic problem for him...for decades.  It just got worse and worse AND worse 'til________.]

I have also suggested that 'E' couldn't play the guitar to save his life.  There certainly was a time when he could...and did.  Anyway...back to the battle.  [I still don't think of him as being the real/true king of rock 'n' roll.  Too much excess baggage.  Not his fault.  He did remarkably and entirely well given the tight money-grubbing grasp of the kernel.]
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By the way David...I have always thought that Kate Bush's 'The Dreaming' was and is an excellent recording.  Loved it right from the get-go. [cool]
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Aldous Harding, who just won a prestigious music award here.  "Imagining My Man".  

youtu.be/xE-A0cNSLmc

youtu.be/txWHG6z4FnY

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thanks, Lee, maybe you 'don't have a wooden heart' after all...

But with all due respect, Darren: how would you feel if your all time worst picture was produced and reproduced by bad comedians and social media?  (when you know that was not how you looked throughout most (40 of 42?) years of your life.  I mean, are you hoping Steve Allen's descendants will let you into their cocktail party and whatnot?

In sense of fairness, for trotting that one out (where was the 'thank you very much'?), couldn't you post a video of the 68 live performance of "If I Can Dream" in the white suit?
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...and before you say it, no, I never made a joke about Jim Morrison being fat and drowning in a bathtub probably near a toilet.  Not a fan, but I would feel like a jerk if I did.  How about it, Doors fans?  Did Jim Morrison really deliver as big of a contribution to U.S. and western culture, in comparison to Elvis?  and follow-up, how would you feel if a picture of Jim at his fattest--maybe next to one with his junk out on stage, was all the media and comedians ever said about Jim Morrison?  Would you think that was fair?
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Darren J. Ray

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Here you go, John. 

Don't say I never do anything for you. 



I wonder if this was the show when E propositioned Darlene Love. 
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Jim?  Morrison?  Talented?  I think so...to a degree.  He was a 'dragged kickin' and screamin' to the mic' singer who only really just wanted to do the 'poet' thing.  A piss-tank.  A bore.  A boar.  Self centred.  Egotistical.  All of that.  Still...The Doors were very, very good.  Great?  Nawwwwwwwwwwww.  Not quite.  But still...very good...and truly unique.  I can deal with about 1/3 to 40% of their 'stuff'.  They're better than merely being slotted into the bar-band status which was  bestowed on them by 'johnny come latelys' and haters.  An artist...or a band...must be [first] evaluated in terms of his/her/their exact time frame.  What did they bring to the table and how did they move things along and grow the wide spead genre?  Then you go back and consider the over-all.  The Doors made things expand and evolve.  They weren't leaders but they were real time contributors.

Name another band who ever 'did' the Doors as well as, or better than, The Doors.  You can't.  I can think of many bands, though, with a more pleasing and, frankly, a better body of work.  Only mildly over-rated.  And they do have a fair number of truly classic hits and l.p. tracks.  They also have an even larger number of turds. [and words]  Hey...You can't nail the bullseye with all of your shots and you have to fire a number of them into the ground, left, and right of the target before you become proficient.  Nobody nails it every time.  [although Tiny Tim came close. [wink] ]
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