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Larry Franz

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This week's songs deal with feelings, states of mind, emotions, beliefs, imagination and other mental phenomena. Maybe it's all in our minds.


The Ronettes, "I Wonder". This is a track from their album 
Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes, produced by Phil Spector and released in November 1964. The Ronettes have had three songs in the Battle before, back in seasons II and III.

Two videos: The first one works in North America, Australia & New Zealand. The second works in the U.K. but ends a bit too soon:





Buddy Holly, "True Love Ways". It was recorded in 1958 a few months before his death and was released as a single in 1960. It's only the second time Buddy Holly has been in the Battle. "Wishing" competed in Season IV.



The Beach Boys, "You Still Believe in Me". It's 50 years old this month, of course. The original title was "In My Childhood". It was also in the Battle in Season IV.




The Temptations, "Just My Imagination (Running Away With Me)". It was a #1 single in the U.S. in 1971. It's the second time for the Temptations in the Battle. "Beauty Is Only Skin Deep" competed in (yet again) Season IV.


Now let the thinking and feeling begin....

(If there is a problem with any of these videos, please let me know.)

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bonnie bella

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Here ya go Larry.  A feelings song.




More complicated stuff.




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They all work here, Larry. 

And that is a strong battle. Well done. 
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GOLD - Beach Boys

SILVER - Buddy Holly. Peter & Gordon's cover might have taken top prize.

BRONZE - Temptations

TIN - Good Phil Spector sound, altho' the song itself pales to this weeks competition.


Both ends of the 'feelings' spectrum:
XTC:


Buzzcocks:


Weekly Kinks Dept:



First one to post Morris Albert is a rotten egg!

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Beach Boys Gold
Temps Silver
Buddy bronze.  I much prefer the Peter and Gordon version.  This one was a trail blazer but sounds incomplete
Ronnie and the Girls...tin
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Larry Franz

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Gentlemen -- You made me curious, because I didn't remember a Peter and Gordon version at all. Maybe I never heard it, because it barely cracked the top 30 on KRLA in May, 1965. Having now heard the evidence, I think Peter and Gordon should have been prosecuted for attempted murder.



Although they could definitely carry a tune.



Thanks for the early votes, t and Lee.

bonnie -- Thank you for not going for the rotten egg prize.
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there was bound to be a week where this would happen for me: that all four songs are not only great, but perfect to me.  So...everyone is going to hate on me, but I have to vote four ties for gold.

how would I rank them if someone stuck a gun to my children's heads, and said, 'vote or else'?   I'll let Larry be judge: I would prefer four golds, but maybe to break a tie? in that case, I vote the following: 

1. 'You Still Believe in Me'.  I remember Sumuma Ogata, the Japanese Beach Boys fan club president told me this was his favorite, I told him mine was 'Don't Worry Baby'.  Mine is about being loved.  His is about ...reinforcement of being loved despite mistakes and if you were abused, perceived defects.  Maybe that's more profound.  One of Brian's most healing songs.  Of course, he later made an even more profound jump, to sing about taking that internalized love and loving others/giving love.  It was called 'The Beach Boys Love You' and people hate on it because they are hipster doofuses.  (thank you very much--_.).

2.  'True Love Ways.'  Buddy.  I am of course, forever Texan despite running away from the Alamo in about June 1982.

3.  'I Wonder'.   The Ronnettes.   I love this song.  Ronnie is REALLY passionate in the last verse, huh? 

4.  'Just my Imagination'.   The Temps.  But this song is really just as great as the other 3.

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Love the topic.  It made me think of one of my two favorite Cui Jian songs.  If you think of him as the Bob Dylan of Beijing, June 1989, this is probably your song; if he's the Bruce Springsteen of China, your song might be 'Hua(r) fang Gu Niang' (Girl in the Flower Shop).  


"A Piece of Red Cloth"  by Cui Jian

That day you used a piece of red cloth
to blindfold my eyes and cover up the sky
You asked me what I had seen
I said I saw happiness

This feeling really made me feel comfortable
It made me forget I was homeless
You asked me where I wanted to go
I said I want to walk your road

I couldn't see you and I couldn't see the road
You grabbed both my hands and wouldn't let go
You asked me what I was thinking
I said I want you to be my leader

I have a feeling you aren't made of iron
But you seem to be as demanding as iron
I felt that you had blood on your body
Because your hands seemed so warm

this feeling really made me feel comfortable
It made me forget I was homeless
You asked me were I wanted to go
I said I want to walk your road

I had a feeling this wasn't a wilderness
But I couldn't see it was already dry and cracked
I felt that I wanted to drink some water
But you used a kiss to seal off my mouth

I don't want to leave and I don't want to cry
Because my body is already withered and dry
I want to always be with you this way
Because I know your suffering best

That day you used a piece of red cloth
to Blindfold my eyes and cover up the sky
You asked me what I could see
I said I could see happiness






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Wow, Larry, that's a really tough battle -- all stellar songs. Gonna need a few days to mull over them to come up with a well-considered ranking.

In the meantime, here's a few more to think over, wonder about, reconsider, or even cause you to change your mind.







And a delightful personal favorite cover of this Tyrone Davis soul classic by the late blues rock guitar legend, Roy Buchanan:




Back later in the week...great battle lineup, Larry!
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David W

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Larry.....That RONETTES version of I WONDER doesn't play for me in the UK

Alternate here

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David W

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My votes early as I am off on travels later in the week .

Gold-TEMPS
Silver-Buddy H
Bronze- BBs
Tin-Ronettes

This would also have fitted in last weeks battle

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Larry Franz

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David -- Thanks for posting the alternate video. I'll add it to the first post. And thanks for your early vote.
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I'm going to post three songs about wishing.  

The first two are both called Wishing Well.

The first is a pretty well known song by the band Free



The second is a Black Sabbath deep cut off their first Ronnie James Dio lead album



Lastly, to come down a bit from those hard rocking numbers, here's the song that inspired Surfer Girl, performed by the guy who wrote Surfer Girl.  

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Larry Franz

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John B -- It's great that you love all four (maybe even more than I do). No problem with a four-way tie. That means 2.5 points to each. If you change your mind, let us know.

Regarding Love You, which I love too -- but which I hope we can all agree to disagree about this week -- maybe they should have kept "Brian Loves You" as the title. Perhaps that would have emphasized that it was a very Brian-centric record.

On the topic of Ciu Jian -- I don't think I'd ever heard of him before, although they say he's the father of Chinese rock music. Two from him: "Wishing" and "Misunderstanding" (an instrumental).






Tom -- I'm glad you like them too and I look forward to hearing your thoughts. And thanks especially for the Dion & the Belmonts. That's a great song.

t -- So the Buzzcocks never figured out the reason. Too bad. 

bonnie -- Wikipedia says "Mind Games" was "recorded as Lennon split with Yoko for his 18-month 'lost weekend' with May Pang". Interesting.

Darren -- Thanks. I look forward to seeing your vote.

kds -- Given what's been going on with "Stairway to Heaven", maybe Disney should sue Brian?


Here's a different bit of Texas from Buddy Holly that I almost used: "Rave On" from 1958.

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Larry Franz

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bonnie -- Very funny. I hope you don't mind if I don't listen to that one. [smile]
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