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bonnie bella

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Righto, recently I posted a week of music that I remembered from when I was five years old. It was a special bunch of late seventies treasures that reflected my uncoordinated writing and running styles and love for white cowboy boots. But by ten years old I was writing between the lines like a pro and pretty good at catch-and-kiss.

This week is dedicated to songs that stood out to me for whatever reason at 10 years old, and also a song by Carl Wilson of the same time. Feel free to share music you remember at 10, or even some beauties from 1984 (that special year when hairspray and ozone were words that frequently shared the same sentence).

Here are this week's contenders.

The threat of nuclear war was a very real thing in 1984. Frankie Goes to Hollywood had a huge hit here with Two Tribes, complete with this disturbing music video. I knew who the guys fighting were supposed to be, and what it represented, but didn't know of all the other symbolism in the video until much later.

Frankie Goes to Hollywood, Two Tribes



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Tribes


Madonna, Like a Virgin

Not being entirely sure what one actually was, I was enraptured by the advent of Madonna and that virgin song. Especially clever was her ability to duck under bridges without looking and to tussle her way out of all that suffocating tulle. I lost interest in her soon after, but this was absolute peaches and cream to a ten-year-old girls ears ... whatever a virgin was.




New Order, Blue Monday

The joke around my school was that somebody saw something else in the harbour, but toilet humour was big in year five. This song stayed in the charts so long it rolled through to 1984 and penetrated the brain for life. And then they went and re-released it.




Carl Wilson, What You Do To Me

Carl was not really featuring on the charts in '84, and the Beach boys were going through one of their most uncool phases, with three years before the Kokomonkey was to be released. However, way back there in the background was Carl, creating cool stuff like this. If I only knew ...



Roll on, week 41!




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Larry Franz

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bonnie -- Seeing what everyone was listening to when they were 10 should make for an interesting week.

Unfortunately, 1961 and 62 weren't exactly the peak of American popular music. That helps explains why the song below made a very big impression on me, both musically and lyrically. What exactly was a fickle woman? I still know the words.

James Darren -- "Goodbye Cruel World" (Oct. 61)



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crikey, bonnie, some formidable old farts there
and no mistake!
i reckon i can work out my immaculate carlesque order of going
right now,
but shall endeavour to listen afresh and ponder.

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Good theme, Bonnie! Here's my order:

1. Carl - I''ve never hear this before, but it sounds good.

2. Madonna - I quite like her early stuff

3. Frankie - The first few singles made quite an impact

4. New Order - I missed them completely, along with much 80s stuff.

Here's a couple of songs from 1961/2 when I was 10 (my first year listening to pop music):



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Gold: Blue Monday.  Nice hypnotic feel. 

Silver:  Two Tribes - Great promo clip. If you don't watch it ... song not so good.

Bronze: Like A Virgin - Probably deserves the Gold. But not my cup of tea. 

Tin: What You Do To Me - sorry Carl, not much.

PS  If we included 'Son This Is She' ... that would be my Gold song!
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Cindy Hood

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When I was 10 years old, the top 40 list was a wee bit different - LOL!  The Beach Boys were in their prime, the Beatles were, too.  But, they were great times in the music biz!

My votes are:

Gold:  Carl Wilson for What You Do To Me.  I love Carl's voice and in the 80's is where I feel his vocals were strongest.  Take the end of this song for example... the things he could do with his voice is amazing!

Silver:  Madonna for Like A Virgin.  I believe this is probably her most popular song in her repertoire - either this one or Material Girl.  Her early stuff was really good, I thought. 

Bronze:  Frankie Goes To Hollywood for Two Tribes.  I loved Relax by them, but never heard anything else of theirs.  This is new to me.

Tin:  New Order for Blue Monday.  I do remember hearing this one, but I was never into the 'techno' phased music.  

This was a multi-faceted myriad of music this week, Bonnie!




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t bedford

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Here's a couple by Don & Phil (while I was 10), the Everly Brothers

Walk Right Back
youtube.com/watch?v=c048o_KvWsA

Temptation
youtube.com/watch?v=r_TuuJ31bdM

Here's one by Ricky Nelson. The guitarist on your right is James "Master of the Telecaster" Burton, who ended up in Elvis' Vegas band.
youtube.com/watch?v=0janfcZ8LUw

The Marvelettes had Motown's 1st #1 when I was 10:
Please Mr. Postman
youtube.com/watch?v=9yORMUtX14I

Elvis had a double sided hit while I was 10.
(Marie's the Name) His Latest Flame
youtube.com/watch?v=59pOE3OmUi8

Little Sister
youtube.com/watch?v=Di2ThVZeGV4

One by Sam Cooke
You Send Me
youtube.com/watch?v=mrwfB4aAZZc

A couple by Del Shannon
Runaway
youtube.com/watch?v=mmjsn2KIVJ0

Hats Off to Larry
youtube.com/watch?v=Xk_FR3341bA

And finally. Alvin's X-mas chestnut,
The Chipmunk Song
youtube.com/watch?v=wdN_8OlJGs0

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Before I change my mind:

Gold -- New Order -- This is the one I'd most likely play on my own time, even though it does go on a bit. (But so does "Spec Bebop".)

Silver -- Frankie Goes To Hollywood -- Another one I'd listen to. 

Bronze -- Carl Wilson -- I bought his album but only played it a couple times and didn't remember this. It's pretty good though.

Pewter -- Madonna -- I bear her no ill will and the "like a virgin" part is very catchy, but the rest of the song isn't memorable at all.


People must have been dancing to New Order and Frankie Goes in 1984. In 1961 and 62, people danced to a number of songs about dances.  

Joey Dee & the Starliters -- "The Peppermint Twist" (Nov. 61)
youtube.com/watch?v=I_yvSObrlBU

Chubby Checker -- "Let's Twist Again" (June 61)
youtube.com/watch?v=eh8eb_ACLl8

Dee Dee Sharp -- "Mashed Potato Time"  (Feb. 62)
youtube.com/watch?v=51eJ3-h86JQ

The Orlons -- "The Wah Watusi"  (May 62)
youtube.com/watch?v=nxYIgGB8o7w

The Isley Brothers -- "Twist and Shout"  (May 62)
youtube.com/watch?v=7yhDvJ3UA3Q

Given the demographics of this site, 61 and 62 may get more attention than they deserve (and Lee isn't even here). If only my parents had waited. [smile]


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And we are out of the gates and racing, with a clear divide already between Carl/Madonna and New Order/FGTH leanings.

Larry, I had not considered how the early sixties might dominate this week. I'm a creature of habit so I guess you can look forward to a '66 '67 year soon - and that should be far more fun. Thanks for your votes. I missed your Spec Bebob link last week so looked it up now. Interesting. 

John E. That Iain Gregory (who I've never heard of) clip is very clear, both sound and video. I almost wondered if it was going to be an early version of this: 



But it's not. Nice to slide it in here anyway. The other one's pretty clear too, and apart from the wailing I'd agree with St Kilda it's pretty good. 

Thanks for your votes, St Kilda. And thanks for the big fat rainstorms coming off you guys and hanging over us. I blame you all over there.

Thanks for your votes Cindy, and it's nice to see you give Carl the gold spot. I think it's a gorgeous little song too. A hidden gem. Here's Relax, that you mentioned from the same album, Welcome to the Pleasuredome. It must very warm in there, otherwise, that lady might catch her death of cold!



t, great to see you had excellent taste at ten. What stands out in your posts are the excellent vocals. I guess excellent vocals really made a song as there was still so much of a formula to stick to. No thanks for the Alvin addition. Thirty seconds in I was ready to claw my ears off.  I also really enjoyed this post from, I think, Tom, from last week, so sharing again.



If you didn't see Larry's Beach Boy Parody thread, this is also worth sharing again. A timeline of sorts.


















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bonnie -- One good thing about 1961 and 62 was that surf music arrived on our car radios in Southern California. Thus:

Dick Dale & the Del-Tones -- "Let's Go Trippin'" (Oct. 61)
youtube.com/watch?v=W1gskj1VQR0

The Mar-kets -- "Surfer's Stomp" (Dec. 61)
youtube.com/watch?v=JzyJj1mU6tc

The Belairs -- "Mr. Moto" (Dec. 61)
youtube.com/watch?v=-Ke5fOfwX1w


"Surfin'" (Dec. 61) got as high as #3 in Los Angeles in January 62 (and for some reason made the top 30 in Boston in March).

As we know, it was "Surfin' Safari" (June 62) that went national. By the end of August 62, it was #1 in Los Angeles on KRLA and KFWB ("Channel 98") and probably on KHJ too. 

By September, it was #2 on WMCA in New York. It reached #14 on the national chart (and was #1 in Sweden). I don't remember hearing "Surfin'" on the radio. This is what I remember when I was going on 11.



Thank you to t. bedford and the Airheads Radio Survey Archive for the numbers.
http://www.las-solanas.com/arsa/index.php


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1972.  My family moved me again, from Ridgecrest Elementary School, Spring Branch, Houston, Texas, to Southgate Elementary School, Moore, Oklahoma.  Just prior to the move, big songs for me were "Puppy Love" by Donny Osmond and "Ben" by Michael Jackson.  In Oklahoma, I remember "Hot Rod Lincoln", "Burning Love," and "Rockin' Robin." (I believe the latter was the first and only time I brought in a 45 myself to play in Music class on 'record day'.  was practically traumatized by shyness, you see, having to walk up there in front of everyone. 

  Somehow I missed "Go All the Way" but the next year, when we moved again, to Newcastle, Oklahoma, I played "I Wanna Be With You" by the Raspberries on the Dairy Barn juke box. 
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In this contest, I like two songs and dislike two songs.

1. "Like a Virgin" by Madonna

my 2nd favorite Madonna song next to "Get Into the Groove" and my 2nd favorite Madonna album, next to "Ray of Light."   for the post-punk 80's, not bad.

2.  "What You Do to Me" by Carl Wilson

Yes, he sings beautifully, but the song doesn't add up to much.

Then it gets tough.

3.  "Two Tribes" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood

not a fan, but at least it sounds like a song.  I forget, were they closet like Troy Aikman and Tom Cruise or 'out and proud' like Elton and John Waters?

4. "Blue Monday" by New Order

not sure this is a song.  Could have been called "Heartbreak Hotel" or "I've Got you Under my Skin" and wouldn't have made any difference.  NOT A FAN.  Not better or worse than Joy Division=the same.  At the time, I felt this was dancing on the grave, maybe even urinating on the grave of the failed "new wave" and punk demise.  I did not appreciate it.  One of the guys had a thing for Morrissey, so I think they were in the 'out and proud' camp, too.   Definitely part of the superficial make-up and over-dressing English poser movement that had all these artiste' pretensions but rather like Squidward Tentacles, their music was not very good.  (and really, what was the difference between them and your basic disco?  you are correct sir, the answer is 'they had an English accent.'  You got the board...

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I was 10 years old in 1967 - there I've said it.  I've given up my age!  Instead of posting videos of the top 100 songs of that year..... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_1967

There are so many good songs on this chart, but no Beach Boys!  Seems to me that Smiley Smile album came out in 1967 with Good Vibrations on it and a number one hit for the Boys.  But, several hit songs from the Beatles (of course), the Monkees, Four Tops, Supremes, etc.  Whatever, it was a great time in the music biz!  Why can't we go back?


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Bonnie,  I go back to 10 years old all of the time, but if I were 10 in 1984, I probably wouldn't.  The synths were fun when they came in but then kind of took over - DX7s and Linn Drums and the like. The pop world was overtaken and of course MTV. 

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Gold to Madonna.  I LOVED the first album and had the 12 inches of her first work.  I was always an admirer of what she did.  She kept on pushing the boundaries and limits.  This was her BIG breakout, of course.

Silver to Carl - it's wonderful and no synths!  Nice groove to it.

The others I couldn't listen to that long so Frankie wins Bronze on a coin flip. 

Blue Monday to the bottom.

Madonna had her little group in NYC, The Breakfast Club and I always thought that she was taking Regina Richard's sound.  Baby Love was after, though,
... but written with Madonna's boyfriend.  Madonna always got the right people!  If anyone goes to the Rock and Roll Hall her writing is on display.  Great letters and incredible penwomanship.  A talent and someone who could exploit anything.

Ten was a great time to discover music still.  

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Cindy said:
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Seems to me that Smiley Smile album came out in 1967 with Good Vibrations on it and a number one hit for the Boys.


Check #33 on this list. Explanation to follow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_1966
The 'Good Vibrations' single debuted 10/22/66. It was the first post Pet Sounds music Brian did. Then he began work on the early SMILE material but those sessions were scrapped. THEN Smiley Smile was re-recorded/cobbled together, including their most recent single hit GV, so that it was not on an LP until 1967.

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There were some terrific songs on the radio between mid-61 and mid-62:

Elvis: "His Latest Flame" and "Can't Help Falling In Love";

Roy Orbison:  "Crying" and "Dream Baby";

Patsy Cline: "I Fall To Pieces" and "Crazy"';

Dion:  "Runaround Sue", "The Wanderer" and "Lovers Who Wander";

The Crystals: "There's No Other Like My Baby" and "Uptown";

Ray Charles: "Hit the Road Jack", "Unchain My Heart" and "I Can't Stop Loving You".


None of them made a bigger impression on me than "Goodbye Cruel World" (previously posted) and these two: 

Gene Chandler -- "Duke of Earl"
youtube.com/watch?v=h6Uht69h8Is

Jimmy Dean -- "Big Bad John"
youtube.com/watch?v=KnnHprUGKF0

I was 10.


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