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Cindy Hood

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This week's theme is about the brave men and women in battle.  Without further adieu, here are the 4 songs associated with this topic.  

Here they are:

1.  Sail On, Sailor by The Beach Boys.   From the Holland album, 1973.  Battling the high seas and sounds like some inner burdens he faces as well.



2.  Tales of Brave Ulysses by Cream.  From the Disraeli Gears album, 1967.

 


3.  Conquistador by Procol Harum.  On their self-titled album from 1967 and released as single from their live album in 1972.  The original version is much more sedate and slower than this live version.  You could've knocked me over with a feather when I found out that this version that I always knew, was live.



4.  A Song Of Ice And Fire by Ramin Djawadi.  Theme song from the hit series, Game of Thrones.  The principal story chronicles the power struggle for the Iron Throne among the great Houses of Westeros following the death of King Robert.  



It's funny how one song I wanted to use like this week's, set off a chain of 3 others to follow it.  As Hannibal Smith from the tv show, The A Team would say... "I love it when a plan comes together".

In the USA, this is Memorial Day where we remember the soldiers who fought bravely and died in battle for our country's freedom.  

In honor of our fallen soldiers (Not in play).





 




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There is no time exactly like the present.

Gold -- Procol Harum -- I haven't heard this in a long time and am surprised to put it first, but it feels like this is where it belongs.

Silver -- The Beach Boys -- I like it a lot and it was nice to hear it on FM radio when it came out, but I've never been crazy about some of the lyrics.

Bronze -- Cream -- This is good, but not a favorite by them.

Pewter -- Ramin Djawadi -- A good theme for an entertaining program. (We will sign up for a month of HBO to watch the final episodes one day.)


The other big song about a conquistador that immediately came to mind.

Neil Young -- "Cortez the Killer"

Studio:
youtube.com/watch?v=6G0qroTL51U

Live with Crazy Horse:
youtube.com/watch?v=RIL8BN2TGWE

Acoustic from 1999 with images and ancient art
youtube.com/watch?v=fjptgWBr2n8


Non-musical historical note: Hernán Cortés and his men were definitely killers, but it was diseases they brought with them (or variations thereof) that killed the vast majority of the Aztecs. 
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[Between 1545 and 1550] as many as 15 million people – an estimated 80% of the population – were wiped out in an epidemic the locals named “cocoliztli”. The word means pestilence in the Aztec Nahuatl language. Its cause, however, has been questioned for nearly 500 years.

“The 1545-50 cocoliztli was one of many epidemics to affect Mexico after the arrival of Europeans, but was specifically the second of three epidemics that were most devastating and led to the largest number of human losses"....The outbreak is considered one of the deadliest epidemics in human history...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/16/mexico-500-years-later-scientists-discover-what-killed-the-aztecs

Thanks, Cindy.

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From an earlier time: 

Jon English, tenor -- "Over There" ("Johnny, show the Hun you're a son of a gun")


and "When Johnny Comes Marching Home"
youtube.com/watch?v=8GbzC5r9cD4

Two days ago, the Vice President addressed the graduating class at West Point, the U.S. Military Academy:
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It is a virtual certainty that you will fight on a battlefield for America at some point in your life.  You will lead soldiers in combat.  It will happen.

Some of you will join the fight against radical Islamic terrorists in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Some of you will join the fight on the Korean Peninsula and in the Indo-Pacific, where North Korea continues to threaten the peace, and an increasingly militarized China challenges our presence in the region. Some of you will join the fight in Europe, where an aggressive Russia seeks to redraw international boundaries by force. And some of you may even be called upon to serve in this hemisphere.


Somehow, he left out Africa, where we already have troops in combat, the polar regions and the Moon, but give them time. 

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Cindy Hood

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I had come across this one and was going to use it until I saw that it was 10 1/2 minutes long.  Entirely too long!  I could just hear Darren's, "Oh, Noooo!" and figured you all would string me up, beat me and ban me from the BOTB's for good!



Larry Thanks for getting in early.  I appreciate your comments and on the Aztec situation, I didn't know that and will have to brush up on history!  It seems that every country in Asia and the Middle East wants to tangle with the US in recent years.  Why can't we all just get along?

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Cindy -- There's another way to look at who wants to tangle with who(m), but that's a discussion for a different site. [smile]

Just you and me so far, but the music, like the Zeppelin, keeps flying.

Woody Guthrie -- "Talking Sailor" about signing on to the crew of a Liberty Ship in WW 2.

This convoy's the biggest I ever did see, 
It stretches all the way out across the sea. 
The ships blow their whistles and ring their bells, 
Gonna blow them Fascists all to Hell. 
Win some freedom. Liberty. 
Stuff like that.



Bob Marley & the Wailers -- "Buffalo Soldier"
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Buffalo Soldiers originally were members of the 10th Cavalry Regiment of the U.S. Army, formed [in 1866] at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. This nickname was given to the Black Cavalry by Native American tribes who fought in the Indian Wars. The term eventually became synonymous with all of the African-American regiments formed in 1866.
 
youtube.com/watch?v=S5FCdx7Dn0o

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Gold - Conquistador (single edit) (Procol Harum - 1972) 
Frustrating. This is almost a great song. This is almost a great record. It’s a song I was familiar with to the extent that I requested someone give me the track on a compilation CD almost 20 years ago. I think they gave me the 1967 studio version, which is just too short, not yet fully realised and sans that obligatory, bombastic ‘70s lead solo. But, as I was already obviously aware of the song, it must have been this live version (the hit) that I’d heard in my youth (#4 here in 1972).  Why were live albums so in vogue in the ‘70s? Thankfully, it seems a fad that has passed. 

Silver - Sail On, Sailor (The Beach Boys - 1973)
It’s the second time you’ve used this, Cindy, so I guess you like it. Just an okay song. Yeah, those rhyming words – surely, they could have snuck ‘buying’, ‘fumble’, ‘plunder’ and ‘cheering’ in there – they have everything else! I had to laugh when I read this on Wiki: The lead vocal was first attempted by Dennis Wilson, who sang the vocal once before leaving to go surfing. Wow, that’s commitment! But Blondie sings it well, and it is a rare highlight from a period for the Boys that doesn’t do much for me. The waves of harmony in the chorus work.

Bronze - A Song of Ice and Fire (Ramin Djawadi - 2019)
I was just getting into this when it finished. I see this is from something called Game of Thrones, which I confess I know almost nothing about. I presume it’s a TV show on Foxtel. Someone named Jon Snow (presumably, not the English fast bowler) is in it, and there’s lots of sex. 

Participant - Tales of Brave Ulysses (Cream - 1967)
Not my type of music. Sounds like somebody’s (turns out to be Australian artist Martin Sharp, who also designed the album cover) poem about Greek mythology attached to a variation of ‘Wild Thing’. Has anyone here actually read Ulysses? Could you give me a precis? I’m a slow reader. 

(the original)

(Now THIS is impressive. Gary Brooker, with Peter Frampton on guitar and, coincidentally, Jack Bruce on bass, in Ringo’s All-Starr Band, 1997)

 

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1.  "Sail On, Sailor" by the Boys

remember when this came out, I was 11 1/2 or so, and I bought the single, backed with 'Only With You'.  My best friend, not a big Beach Boys fan, liked this song.   It's not my favorite, but it has a sort of narrative power.  rocks too.  One of the best singles from the period in which they all had beards.  My favorite part is the call and answers and both the way it starts and ends.  solid song.

2. "Conquistador" by Procol Harum, although not sure what a procol harum is.  At least this is a well-written song.  Like the orchestration, including the rock n roll instruments being included.  solid song.



3.  I suppose a famous historian was right, there was a time when 'Gregorian Chants were a real big thing.'   the Harry Potter, sorry, Lord of the Rings, sorry, theme song to that ...more recent sword and sorcery but knights and so forth fantasy show that I never watched, even once.  Suspect lots of magic happened.  Maybe a shout out to Spinal Tap's song 'Stonehenge.'


4.  Cream  far from shadoobie bop.  Tales of brave Ulysses.  I made it through Joyce but never Homer.   My god I hate this song and hate the group Cream.  these awful hippies knocked Jan and Dean and 4 Seasons songs way off the radio in the name of conformity. 
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GOLD -- Procol Harum, Conquistador -- I think this would crush most competitors most weeks (could be my opinion only). If "A Whiter Shade of Pale" is Snoozeville, this is your espresso waker-upper! 

SILVER -- Sail On Sailor, Beach Boys -- I'd bet Joe Public would have no clue - or all wrong answers as to who's the lead vocal. Yep, nice job by Blondie (no relation to Charlie) Chaplin. I'd agree with Darren when/if it gets dull, the harmonies "buoy" it along. 

BRONZE -- Cream, Tales of Brave Ulysses -- Almost Spinal Tap-py (again, maybe it's just me), but groovy.

TIN -- Ramin Djawadi -- From that "Everybody's Dead (Almost?). The End" series, basically. Sorry, not my cuppa.


Thanks, Cindy. As battles go, what could be more noble than a losing team paying tribute to the team who knocked 'em out of the Stanley Cup Playoffs and is one of the last 2 standing in the final? Here's some local musicians from my hometown giving a bluegrass twist to Laura Branigan's "Gloria", which has become a bit of a battle cry for fans of Tom Tobben's team (and it's likely no one outside of our 2 cities knows or cares, but here you go...just scroll down for a video):

https://globalnews.ca/news/5329293/winnipeg-musicians-record-bluegrass-tribute-to-st-louis-blues/


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Hi Cindy.

Here's one that I put up in the Battle a while ago. I don't think everybody loved it, but it is one of the first that comes to mind.



And then they did this.


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Hi Cindy,

going for national anthems, don't miss this:



In a musical way, I must confess, my favourite one is the Russian. Also known as the IIHF Bronze Medal song. :-)

Here's my favourite version of it:



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Doing a historic tour ourselves now - Jamestown yesterday and Colonial Williamsburg en route to Asheville, NC, probably going by Miss Cindy Hood's.  It's been hot in the south.

No anthems but a LOT of history:
https://historicjamestowne.org/
https://www.colonialwilliamsburg.com/

I have my votes in mind but thinking of what to say.  Sail On, all sailors.
https://www.historyisfun.org/jamestown-settlement/jamestown-ships/

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OK, I have so far, Larry, Darren, John B., and Lisa.  
Hello-o-o-o!  Is everyone else on vacation at the beach or what?

Lisa, As I started typing this, Whiter Shade of Pale started playing on my radio.  You're right about that song being somewhat "snoozeville" and Conquistador being an "espresso waker-upper".  

Darren, Yes, I really do like Sail On, Sailor very much.  VDP writes some really weird and obscure lyrics, but it's the rhythm, melody and vocals that grab me.  

GOT is a popular HBO show and just wound up at its Season 8 series finale a couple of weeks ago.  I watched a couple of shows in season 1 and the last 3 episodes of season 8 and I really liked the theme song.  My son and daughter are really into it.

John B.,  TOBU is obviously a trippy kind of song and pretty much like a lot of popular music was at that time - the psychadelic era.  

To all of you, thanks for your interesting critique of these 4 songs.  

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While it's slow, I'll go ahead and cast my ballot.

Gold:  The Beach Boys for Sail On, Sailor.  I always loved this one!

Silver:  Procol Harum for Conquistador.  I am so glad that I finally found a really good oldies station a few months ago.  I heard this one recently and loved it.  This station plays a ton of Beach Boys and Beatles music, along with other great 60's and 70's records.

Bronze:  Ramin Djawadi for A Song Of Ice And Fire.  This was almost my silver vote.  Tough decision though.

Tin:  Cream for Tales of Brave Ulysses.  I remember as a kid, that I like this song a lot as I did most of the Disraeli Gears album.  Tastes change somewhat through the years, I guess.  

That's my take on it.

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  Season 10 Week 15..In the Brave Battle

               1)Procal Harum...amazing.. it sounds so good live

               2)Cream...Classic from Disreali Gears

               3)The Beach Boys...One of only two B'Boy tracks that I have ever heard on FM radio.

               4) Game of Thrones...Nice enough to listen to but the rest are more capitvating

                      
                                                   all enjoyable !!!
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Elvis Costello & the Attractions -- "Oliver's Army"

Hong Kong is up for grabs
London is full of Arabs
We could be in Palestine
Overrun by a Chinese line
With the boys from the Mersey and the Thames and the Tyne
But there's no danger
It's a professional career

youtube.com/watch?v=LrjHz5hrupA

Red Army Choir -- "Red Army Is the Strongest"

Krasnaia Armiia,marsh vperiod!
Revvoensovet nas v boj zoviot.
Ved ot tajgi do britanskikh morej
Krasnaia Armiia vsekh silnej!

[just kidding, but this is one rousing song]


 
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