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Al Forsyth

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Battle of The Bands – The Girls vs. The Boys

It seems that some groups just click together. In this case I was thinking of groups that work together so well that they are like a gang to themselves.  This is part of what makes them special. There had to be some love that brought them together into this gang of performers/artists. 

Okay, so we have to go Ladies’ first so…cue the songs:

A California group consisting of four Ladies first going by the name The Bangs.  Somebody cleaned them up and they became The Bangles and Sir Prince (Christopher) writes a hit for them: Manic Monday

http://www.thebangles.com/historyofthebangles.html

 

Now for some fun 80’s by the UK’s Bananarama: I Heard A Rumour

Largest selling Ladies group ever. 

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/bananarama-mn0000785101/biography

 

Then, this Jersey Boy group, The Four Seasons, most known for the falsetto of Frankie

Let’s Hang On – To What We’ve Got



http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/jersey-boys/

 

And then that group of guys who were a pack from Hawthorne, California, The Beach Boys:  You’re So Good To Me

http://www.beachboys.com/history.html

 

C&P

Manic Monday – The Bangles

I Heard a Rumour – Bananarama

Let’s Hang On (To What We’ve Got) – The Four Seasons

You’re So Good To Me – The Beach Boys


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Al -- Wikipedia says Bananarama made the Guinness Book for having the most chart entries. That sounds more realistic than what All Music says about them being the most successful girl's group ever. Consider the Spice Girls, for example, and the Supremes (who no doubt sold more than they're given credit for, considering that they weren't counting records sold as well in the 60s).




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Darren J. Ray

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I was sure this was more your style, Al...



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RIP Ric Ocasek (75)

(a Silver in Week 25 of Season V - t Bedford)
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Al Forsyth

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Larry, it could be a global thing.  Anyway, to be looked at more throughout the week as it seemed a bold statement - but we really don't know the effect throughout Europe.   Bananarama  spanned the cross over from punk to dance. Spice Girls were pretty much the same thing throughout.  But the Supremes - come on now, royalty!!!!!!

Darren, Barry demonstrates how to ruin a song.  It's got the classic Barry modulation.  I couldn't watch the entire video though. Not really my "style".  More on Four Seasons throughout the week, but not BM.  You can sure find em though. [confused]

I was saddened to hear about Ric O. of the Cars. This is becoming too regular a thing around here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=Z5-rdr0qhWk

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Larry Franz

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I was saddened to hear about Ric O. of the Cars. This is becoming too regular a thing around here.

Yes, and elsewhere.

Since time may be short:

Gold -- The Bangles -- It just sounds better to me. And it's Monday.

Silver -- The Four Seasons -- Jersey Boys was a tremendous success, but I don't think their sound has worn very well through the years.

Bronze -- The Beach Boys -- This is one of my least favorite of their popular songs, lyrically and musically. I was surprised and disappointed when it was released as the B-side of "Sloop John B" and when they put it on Endless Summer. And on Stack-o-Tracks (how did they get Michael without a damn hat?):



Pewter -- Bananarama (hope I spelled that right) -- Not bad but it didn't engage me.

 
The Chiffons -- "I Have A Boyfriend"
youtube.com/watch?v=7sk2FlFnEPo

The Beatles -- "Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=wpHi1PzkJ1g


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Keep getting more specific.

Bananarama has the 'most Top 50' charting singles in the United Kingdom of any all-female group.'   there.  fixed it.

    This reminds me of some of the PR things said about Abba (bigger than the Beatles!  (then in smaller print, 'briefly, in some small Scandinavian countries.'). 

In the US, The Supremes had 12 # 1 songs on Billboard.   by comparison, I would guess Bananarama had about the same two that Ace of Base had, if not the 1 the Spice Girls and Pussycat Dolls both had...

anyway...

1.  I'll take "You're so Good To Me" as gold, which I love much more than everyone else, I guess.  powerful song.  rocks.  one of the most influential to Peter Townsend I'm going to guess. 

2.  "Let's Hang On" by the 4 Seasons.  not one of my favorites of their's, not wild about the psychedelic riff and lack of bridge-unless it's the word 'stay-ay-ay!', but still good enough for second here.  disagree with Larry.  The times don't hold up to the Seasons, I'd say rather than the other way around.

3.  "Manic Monday" by the Bangles, covering Prince.  solid song.  I had that album.  but probably the one time I wished for the other lead vocalist.

4. "I Heard a Rumor"  by Bananarama

not as good as 'He was Really Saying Something' which I actually bought, but not bad.

but other than a handful of songs I remember by them in the horrible mid-80's ('Cruel Summer'), this group specialized in weak 'soul' covers, kind of like Phil Collins and James Taylor put together.   The UK we used to joke couldn't tell the difference, they think Boy George sounded like Smokey!  and George Michaels was Marvin Gaye.  guess I'd have to be British to understand.    so yes, Bananarama covered the Supremes, but also Dusty Springfield, and the Doobie Bros. (?--'Long Train runnin'--)', the Beatles (HELP!)', and 'Venus' no not by Frankie Avalon, but by the Shocking Blue circa 69.
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Lisa G/TS

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Quote:
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It happens...:

Image result for beach boys today coverImage result for beach boys summer days coverImage result for beach boys pet sounds coverImage result for beach boys 20/20 cover


Sorry I missed your week, Deb #1 ! 

I'll try and be back later with my ballot, Al.

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It happens...


You're right, of course, but it still surprises me.

Mike-Love-Dennis-Wilson-the-beach-boys-32842095-652-882.jpg 

Bob Marley & the Wailers -- "Crazy Baldhead"
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Gold - You’re So Good to Me (The Beach Boys - 1965)
I’m over the song, but it’s a goodie. Maybe that’s the problem – it doesn’t have a great shelf life. The ‘la-la-la-la-la-la’s must have sounded a bit outdated by 1965, and I was surprised this was one of the songs Mike was awarded a co-writing credit via the 1994 court case. I wouldn’t be claiming those awkward lyrics, myself. It’s the first track on Side Two of 20 Golden Greats, the second Beach Boys album I got my hands on when I was 13.

Image result for The Beach Boys 20 Golden Greats

Silver - Let’s Hang On! (The Four Seasons - 1965)  
The unhip Four Seasons doing their best to sound groovy. The old style intro wasn’t exactly de rigueur for 1965, so someone came up with the idea to wake the listeners up with... fuzz bass! It sticks out like the proverbial. Bob Crewe (and Sandy Linzer & Denny Randell) could write a good song, and this is the best song of the week by a fair way but not my favourite. Plenty of Four Seasons songs would win this week for me, including ‘Opus 17’, ‘Who Loves You’, ‘Rag Doll’, ‘Sherry’ and ‘Dawn’. This just misses.

Now it gets hard. It’s between a song I try to avoid at all costs and a song I find as interesting as cardboard…..

Bronze - Manic Monday (The Bangles - 1986)
I wasn’t into them at all. Decent tune but I detested the cheap lyrics, especially the tasteless allusions to sex (typical of Punce), and her voice. Sunday, Monday, fun day, run day... why not throw in lucky bun day, too?

Participant - I Heard a Rumour (Bananarama - 1987)
I fancied the brunette, Keren Woodward. Checking out YouTube comments, I wasn’t the only one. It’s a pity the song sounds like ‘I Should Be So Lucky’. If it had been ‘Robert De Niro’s Waiting’ or even ‘Venus’, it might have challenged. I was playing one of my first gigs, in 1986, when a young guy asked me for ‘Venus’. I was pleasantly surprised and proceeded to play the song. By Frankie Avalon. It was shortly after that (very shortly and by the same guy) that I was told about the new single from Bananarama!


My favourite girl group….

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Al Forsyth

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Thanks to the early votes and comments - as Larry (time is short), John B. (sets the record straight), Darren (I knew he would go there for Gold and now I know why) not to mention the promise from Lisa, have cast the all-important day one ballots to get it all going. I may be changing the Banana Girls rating with my vote, but stay tuned.  Also Darren, YES, to the vote for KW. I was going to use Venus, but the knowing that it was a cover - nah, although destined for what Darren mentioned?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=131&v=6WXfHSLjQnA
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Thanks, Larry, for the track to YSGTM, it is basic Beach Boys alright. but good just the same. 



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A few songs of note.

The Black Keys -- "Next Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=qAUZifMgZ3I

Sleater-Kinney -- "Modern Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=Ptk7DEYY6LA

Family of the Year -- "Summer Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=LO8MbJXcDA0


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Al, some good and also some very familiar songs.

I'll go with:

Gold:  The Beach Boys for You're So Good To Me.  Refreshing to hear this one!

Silver:  The Bangles for Manic Monday.  This one is played every day on the light rock station here.  In spite of the years of overplaying it, it's still a good song.

Bronze:  Bananarama for I Heard A Rumor.  Another good one from the girls.

Tin:  The Four Seasons for Let's Hang On.  I like some of their songs, but I am not a big fan of Frankie's high squeal.  Most would call it 'falsetto', but I call it annoying.  

Good week, Al!

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Even as a big Seasons fan, I can admit that it's Frankie's "regular voice" that is killer, not his falsetto one.
(which I suppose makes him the opposite of Lou Christie, but both better than Dean Torrence who was mediocre at both.  ha. ).  Meanwhile, Brian was great at both on this song, of course...
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The Black Keys -- "Next Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=qAUZifMgZ3I

Sleater-Kinney -- "Modern Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=Ptk7DEYY6LA

Family of the Year -- "Summer Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=LO8MbJXcDA0

Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers -- "American Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=tXkblbJqwn0

Elvis Costello & the Attractions -- "Party Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=sYQHIZnTpCY

Marshall Crenshaw -- "Cynical Girl"



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