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Darren J. Ray

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When do we argue, t?

Nah, just offering some background on the chronology of the recordings. 
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there's a never-ending supply of girrrls' names to chose from, innit?

Ain't it the truth. And I believe the last time we did girrrls' names, we weren't doing "girl" & "girls" as well. That opens up a whole other never-ending supply to choose from.

The Safaris, "Image of a Girl" (not to be confused with the Surfaris)


Meanwhile: 

Two called "Maureen", by Nick Lowe and Fountains of Wayne




Two called "Denise" by Randy & the Rainbows and Fountains of Wayne




Two called "Polly" by Nirvana and Gem Club (these are both examples of the thing called "music")




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Mr. John B mentioned "Mary Anne" on the Album Reviews and Discussions sub-forum.

Brian Wilson & Andy Paley (that is not a picture of Brian and Andy)


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88 Lines About 44 Women - The Nails


Another Maureen...

Mo'reen - Paul Revere & the Raiders


Marlena - Four Seasons


Marlene - Todd Rundgren

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Good story and sound to original Valleri, but the fuzz box was going out in 68 for sustain and wah wah pedals.  Always liked the song.  So, not Wrecking Crew? 

More ladies: Maria's come first.






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With all due respect to Andrea Bocelli, Tony is supposed to sound like a kid from the Upper West Side, or at least from Nebraska:

Jimmy Bryant, "Maria" (from the movie soundtrack)


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 So, not Wrecking Crew?


Al, this is the listing I found on the internet for the December '67 recording: 

Bass: Joe Osborne
Drums: Billy Lewis
Engineer: Hank Cicalo
Engineer: Henry Lewy
Guitar: Gerry McGee
Guitar: Louie Shelton
Guitar: Wayne Erwin
Lead Vocals: Davy Jones
Producer: The Monkees
Saxophone: Jay Migliori
Saxophone: Jim Horn
Trombone: Lew McCreary
Trumpet: Ollie Mitchell
Trumpet: Roy Caton
Vocals: Michael Nesmith
Vocals: Micky Dolenz
Vocals: Peter Tork
Arranger: Don McGinnis
Lyricist, Writer: Bobby Hart
Lyricist, Writer: Tommy Boyce

This is consistent with the info I already had on the record. 

It was recorded at United Recorders Studio B, Hollywood, CA. 

So you have Boyce & Hart's band augmented with (other) members of the Wrecking Crew.  

Note, this version was not a Boyce & Hart production but credited as 'The Monkees'. 

As to who the personnel were on the 1966 recording (a Boyce & Hart production), I can always attempt to find out, but I know Louie Shelton is on both. It would be safe to assume as are McGee, Erwin & Lewis.  



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Of course, back in the day, I thought that the Tommy Tedesco guitar line, but in Cindy's week earlier this year we were talking the Louie Shelton line. 

Still the lyric:
She's the same little girl who used to hang around my door
But she sure looks different than the way she looked before
I call her Valleri
I love my Valleri 

has that She's Not The Little Girl I Once Knew thing about it [smile]

Fave early Monkees/Boyce and Hart/ and this was first used by Paul Revere and The Raiders, yes?

Okay - not a name, but a girl:



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geez, I gotta vote with my fingers over my mouth, while coughing like in 'Animal House', or...while drinking water like the ventriloquists do:  my votes are the same as kds.'

1. 'Elenore" by the Turtles , the portly Californians were just a little bit 'bettah' with their English accents...and harmonies
2. 'Gloria' by Them
3. 'Valerie' by the Monkees &
4. 'Pamela Jean' by The Survivors

Concerning the 4th place song, Lee is correct, I just can't remove the far superior 'Car Crazy Cutie' from my mind, especially the Jan Berry-esque lyrics: "she's into everything man, from customs to rails, got axel grease imbedded neath her fingernails..."     really?   pushed the song from characture to satire.  and you know what?  Brian sings Cutie more forcefully, too.  He was as everyone knows a superhuman singer by then, but on 'Pamela Jean' he tones it down a little. 

Love all the good taste shown by the other posters with extra songs.  the Everly's 'Made to Love' of course, as well as Larry's 'Cynical Girl' and The Seasons 'C'mon Maryanne', and of course, Al has the obvious 'Wendy'.

Extra credit to Tom for 'Tina' by Gary Lewis & the Playboys.  always loved this song, as it reminds me of Jan Berry without irony.  I know, someone is going to say isn't that like a skinny Orson Wells?  ...that's about right.   Also love 'Icicles in the Sand'--but which does not fit the topic.  The picture on the 'Tina' video, reminds me that I don't understand why every male in the world does not marry from the Han ethnicity.  (only half joking).

missed my favorite Blondie song: both in English as well as French: "Sunday Girl".
For the Seasons, there were so many...Candy Girl, Rag Doll, and so forth, but I missed 'Raven' which was the song fellow Jersey Boy Bruce ripped off for 'Fire'.
I like "Mary Ann" by New Edition.  It was on their best album, the one with 'Telephone Man' and 'Cool it Now'.

 



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Lest we forget this Mary Anne:

The Who, "Mary Anne with the Shaky Hand"


And these young women, named or not, who are legion:

Eddie Cochran, "Jeanie, Jeanie, Jeanie"


The Fantastic Baggys, "Anywhere the Girls Are"


Rank and File, "Amanda Ruth"


Blondie, "Sunday Girl" (mere coincidence)


Weezer, "Lonely Girl" and "Smart Girls"




Randy Newman, "Same Girl"


Harry Nilsson, "Caroline"


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Brian has a song called 'Smart Girls'...
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Which I, out of respect, won't post. [smile]

Girls, "Laura" (a twofer)


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here's a particular favourite of mine.
one of the most exciting debut singles ever, back in 1972.
'make me a deal and make it fast...'.
a rush of a statement of intent that paints broad swathes and tiny details in one 45rpm.
i can still recall the impact of first seeing roxy music music live onstage
(august 1972, the rainbow finsbury park, opening act for david bowie
- 'we are roxy music', with the stress on the 'roxy...').
the whole evening was pretty amazing,
one of the great ziggy stardust shows.
roxy music were different. they were astounding in those earliest days.
they sounded like nothing else and ferry's lyrics were playful, dense
(here more convoluted than van dyke parks).

there's multi-references to movies:
'the last picture show'
'whatever happened to baby jane?',
'teenage rebel',
'flying down to rio'
and, of course, there's warhol's starlet baby jane holzer.
 
and, of course, that final, simultaneous, multi-meaning reference to:
a girl's name, a packet of cigarettes and the 'desert strand'
(the destination of that the studebaker desert drive road trip...).
'what's her name? virginia plain'.

i still love it, still love early roxy music,
(even if they did devolve into studied drabness).
here's a fab live version: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=170&v=jDULlMa8Hxc

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"Victoria", Dance Exponents.



"Gracie", Bic Runga.



"Whole Lotta Rosie",  AC/DC.


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Tom posted Donovan's original, but I prefer the MkI version of Deep Purple's Lalena



An early Pink Floyd single, Julia Dream 

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