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Darren J. Ray

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Gold - Girls on the Beach (The Beach Boys - 1964)
Weird. The other time this song was used, it was up against another Steely Dan song – a decent one – and trounced it. So this time it will be a cinch. From a novel period of their recording history - a time when only actual Beach Boys sang on Beach Boys records. Although the opening line is an inversion of ‘Surfer Girl’, it sits comfortably in my 20 favourite Beach Boys tracks ever (’Surfer Girl’ doesn’t) and is from probably my favourite Beach Boys album too - All Summer Long. It’s such an underplayed beauty - a bit like ‘She Knows Me Too Well’. It’s glorious; great group vocal with vintage Brian lead and a nice cameo from Dennis. They probably reeled it off in quick time, not that you’d know it. Has anyone here ever actually watched The Girls On the Beach movie?

Silver - One Night in Bangkok (single version) (Murray Head - 1984)
I used to hate this in the ’80s – it went to #1 here – but in this company I couldn’t wait to play it. Respect for Benny & Bjorn. Great taste in women. OK songwriters, too, except this one sounds like one of those really crummy late ‘70s ABBA songs like ‘Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!’ or worse.

Bronze - Black Cow (Steely Dan - 1977)
Long, boring and sterile. Possibly one of the most revered bands, they were certainly one of the most unattractive. Can someone please remind me what a Steely Dan is?

Participant - Every Morning (Sugar Ray - 1999)
I don’t think I’d heard this before. Alas, that meant I had to listen to this multiple times to try to find some beauty in it. Failed. What’s this song supposed to be about, Cindy? Actually, I don’t care. Did you seriously expect this would challenge a Beach Boys classic?

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Darren, TGOTB is a vintage BB's song with the finest vocal harmonizing.  There's so many great ones in that respect.  It's weird how the mind works, but I came up with this story thing - can't quite remember how all that unfolded now, but my mind works in mysterious ways when it comes to anything really, but especially in planning out themes for BOTB's.  They come at me like Brian's song ideas - in a deluge.  When they come at me, I write them down, just like a discussion we had years ago on this forum about "Conduits to the Universe" and songwriters like Brian.  I dunno.

Last night, I got no sleep for hours due to Black Cow being stuck in my head and resonating continually.  Ever have that happen to you?  It does me all the time.  It didn't help me any when I whacked my head on something trying to pick my cat up to throw him out of my bedroom due to his furniture hopping.  Searing pain, I tell you!  

I know what you mean about hating a song and years later it doesn't seem so bad.  It's happened to me, too.  But, I still rank Rihanna's Umbrella as the worst.  I used to feel that way about Sinead O'Connor's Nothing Compares 2 U, but it's tolerable to me now.  I have no idea what Every Morning is about, mate.  

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Darren, TGOTB is a vintage BB's song with the finest vocal harmonizing.  There's so many great ones in that respect.  It's weird how the mind works, but I came up with this story thing - can't quite remember how all that unfolded now, but my mind works in mysterious ways when it comes to anything really, but especially in planning out themes for BOTB's.  They come at me like Brian's song ideas - in a deluge.  When they come at me, I write them down, just like a discussion we had years ago on this forum about "Conduits to the Universe" and songwriters like Brian.  I dunno.

Last night, I got no sleep for hours due to Black Cow being stuck in my head and resonating continually.  Ever have that happen to you?  It does me all the time.  It didn't help me any when I whacked my head on something trying to pick my cat up to throw him out of my bedroom due to his furniture hopping.  Searing pain, I tell you!  

I know what you mean about hating a song and years later it doesn't seem so bad.  It's happened to me, too.  But, I still rank Rihanna's Umbrella as the worst.  I used to feel that way about Sinead O'Connor's Nothing Compares 2 U, but it's tolerable to me now.  I have no idea what Every Morning is about, mate.  


If you think Umbrella is bad, listen to her "Work Work Work" (or whatever it's called) song from a year or two ago.  
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Hi Cindy.

Okay, I'll have a crack at this.  My memory is a bit off, after all, my summer holiday was almost a year ago now.  But here's a little tale of what DID happen -- based on a true story -- or something.

So, Me and my friends were away on holiday.  When you live as far away from the rest of the world as I do, some planets are actually closer to travel to.  

"Intergalactic Solitude" Bachelorette. 



Whilst out and about, We had a wee bit of a collision, signified by a large explosion, with another ship; the Avicii, and were required to sort out insurance details with two likely looking lads on board who went by the names of "Strunut" and "Ryu".





Neither could speak Kiwi, but we managed to communicate, and they bought out their alien whisky (or whatever the heck it was) and we got talking about everything and anything.  There was nothing we didn't cover; sports, art, politics, geography ... you name it.  With a little of their bottle of "Social Lubrication", we had a lot to discuss.

Tower of Power



Oh boy, we talked all night.

"Two Little Men in a Flying Saucer" Ella Fitzgerald.



And at the end of the galaxy, just past an exploding star, the little fella's vaporised, gone in a puff of blue and orange smoke respectively.  Gone was them and their insurance claim!  All that was left behind was a tiny pile of "Empty Bottles" and a smear of Marmalade.



Yup, that all happened.










 




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These "stories" are getting - wow - creative!

Back to "The Dan" and the samples of Black Cow:


Heavily edited lyrics, Cindy, in case you were uptown in the Bronx, and didn't want to remember the experience!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deja_Vu_(Uptown_Baby)
https://massappeal.com/steely-dan-samples-essential/#josie
It was always very sophisticated music (everything swings and check this out):

With the rappers - so many others - the lyrics are too crazy.  But listen if you dare (I caution that you don't but better to be warned:
MF DOOM “Gas Drawls”
Operation: Doomsday (Fondle ‘Em 1999)
Produced by MF Doom
The bass was here:
Tone Lōc “Cuttin’ Rhythms”
Loc-ed After Dark (Delicious Vinyl, 1989)
Produced by The Dust Brothers
They even sample Paul McCartney later in this^
And some other groove that I'm forgetting now.
ALL very much un-listenable!!!!  But people "got the news" that you can build on these songs and thinking that Donald and Walter were getting their dues paid.  Think so. 

I didn't know that Walter Becker had passed recently!
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/walter-becker-steely-dan-co-founder-dead-at-67-w500956

So...
(go to 5:20)



Cindy, sorry that BC got stuck in your head, but that's what happens.  And YES, a Black Cow is a root beer float! [smile] 

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As the end of school approaches, I look forward to spending the summer with Paul and Winnie.... no, wait, that's Kevin Arnold's summer.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0750322/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt

Been watching the box set again and I'm pretty sure we have the same "tapestry" picture (wine and cheese or something) as can be seen in the kitchen in some WY episodes...would have been something the previous owner of our house left there.

Disappointed to realise the DVD actually *doesn't* use all the original music.

It's only the middle of spring in Australia but we're having our first taste of summer this week. 

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As the end of school approaches, I look forward to spending the summer with Paul and Winnie.... no, wait, that's Kevin Arnold's summer.


Well, I laughed. [biggrin]

Yep, the box set is missing a couple of them. They didn't get 'Riders on the Storm' and maybe 'Born to Be Wild'. Definitely a coupla others. I press Shazam and it's never heard of the soundalike song playing. Bit like 'Garth Brooks' on YouTube! (It's a good thing for me the music is very secondary to the plot lines, at least for me.)

How many have you watched?

Some of mine aren't tracking properly. The Carla Gugino episode stops every couple of seconds and I have to wait about five minutes before it continues. I don't mind so much if it's a screenshot of her or maybe her and Kevin kissing (because I can always imagine it's me) but when it's stuck on Wayne's face, it's a real bummer.

Plus the Karen interviews (gee, she can talk) go even longer if that's possible!

Any issues?

So you're not getting this downpour we're getting? 
 
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Watched it all last year and I've just finished 1st DVD (episodes only)  Any freezing for me (not much) is probably my old DVD player
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Darren J. Ray

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You watched it all last year and you've just finished the first DVD? 

At that rate, with the interviews and five more seasons.....

Apparently, it's not a great batch. I've had two friends with the freeze issue. One took it back to the shop and got a refund. Don't be afraid to tell the retailer if it keeps up.  
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You watched it all last year


As in I watched the whole set last year.

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and you've just finished the first DVD?


I started from the beginning again recently and I meant to say I've finished the first DVD *box* of the set this time around.

Steely resolve?

As for Garth. his and Brian's music (among others) probably got me through university
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GOLD Beach Boys  - by a mile

SILVER Steely D.A.N - yes I know what the origin of the band name is and I'm not comparing myself to that

BRONZE Sugar Ray - oh, it's that song (I don't know it well and haven't heard it for ages)

TIN Murray Head - just something about the song I've never liked





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You watched it all last year and you've just finished the first DVD? 

At that rate, with the interviews and five more seasons.....

Apparently, it's not a great batch. I've had two friends with the freeze issue. One took it back to the shop and got a refund. Don't be afraid to tell the retailer if it keeps up.  


Seems to be somewhat common with DVD box sets.  Not sure why.  

I remember in 2004, when Universal released the Monster Legacy Box (14 Dracula, Frankenstein, and Wolf Man movies on 6-7 DVDs), I had to return it at least twice to get a full working copy, and the young lady at the counter said she'd seen a lot of these come back.  
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Not previously familiar with the bottom three.

GOLD - The Girls On the Beach/Beach Boys. Seems an easy winner for the week.

SILVER - Every Morning/Sugar Ray. I enjoyed this for the entire song.

BRONZE - One Night In Bangkok/Murray Head. It was blessedly short. Not my cuppa, but not horrible.

TIN - Black Cow/Steely Dan. It took 5 minutes for this song to go nowhere.


Sir Ray Davies had an interesting (dare I say Kinky?[wink]) Summer:

Kinks - Holiday in Waikiki


Kinks - Holiday Romance




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Black Cow/Steely Dan. It took 5 minutes for this song to go nowhere. 


Yep, my thoughts exactly. [thumb]
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GOLD - Beach Boys
I would give this all the points if I could

SILVER - Steely Dan 🤢

BRONZE - Murray 🤢🤢

TIN - Sugar Ray 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

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This contest threw me a little, cause my eyes went to Steely Dan, and I instinctively wanted to make them last place, but ultimately I couldn't.  to fans of 'punk rock'/'new wave' circa 1977-1981, they were kind of the enemy.  No not because of their musicianship, that's what you thought I was going to say, there was something else.  No, not that they liked jazz.  Jazz is fine, Brian likes jazz, but yes, he remembers to have choruses in his songs and often SD doesn't.  No...it's more about their mood.  attitude.  That's why people like them too, right?  What is it? 

insouciance?  lackadaisicalness? general vague dislike of females? 


but to my votes:


1.   'Girls on the Beach'

yes, jazzy and very complex, but has a chorus, too.

2.  'Sugar Ray'

'Every Morning'

because, as much as Mark likes to trend towards mediocrity, he appreciates a chorus.  A pop song needs one, right?    Lee always trolls about Simple Simon going to the fair.  But why is 'Black Cow' better lyrically?   

3. Steely Dan

(inexplicably) sacred cow

4.  Murray Head  'One Night in Bangkok

Never been to Bangkok, this song does not make me want to go.  Don't particularly like the Hang Over movie franchise.   Always suspicious when a wimpy white Englishman calls himself 'hard'.  Musically?  kds?  what pop song nowadays is not better?   don't say Daddy Yankee with Justin Beiber.  don't say Adriana Grande.  Don't say Eminem with Pink. I never heard a Beyoncé song this bad.  admit it: kds: you know 'Halo' is better.  Rhiannon?  'Umbrella'? MUCH better.   I think of Taco, 'Puttin' on the Ritz'.  BETTER.  doggone...Murray Head forced Steely Dan right out of the cellar...
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