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This contest threw me a little, cause my eyes went to Steely Dan, and I instinctively wanted to make them last place, but ultimately I couldn't.  to fans of 'punk rock'/'new wave' circa 1977-1981, they were kind of the enemy.  No not because of their musicianship, that's what you thought I was going to say, there was something else.  No, not that they liked jazz.  Jazz is fine, Brian likes jazz, but yes, he remembers to have choruses in his songs and often SD doesn't.  No...it's more about their mood.  attitude.  That's why people like them too, right?  What is it? 

insouciance?  lackadaisicalness? general vague dislike of females? 


but to my votes:


1.   'Girls on the Beach'

yes, jazzy and very complex, but has a chorus, too.

2.  'Sugar Ray'

'Every Morning'

because, as much as Mark likes to trend towards mediocrity, he appreciates a chorus.  A pop song needs one, right?    Lee always trolls about Simple Simon going to the fair.  But why is 'Black Cow' better lyrically?   

3. Steely Dan

(inexplicably) sacred cow

4.  Murray Head  'One Night in Bangkok

Never been to Bangkok, this song does not make me want to go.  Don't particularly like the Hang Over movie franchise.   Always suspicious when a wimpy white Englishman calls himself 'hard'.  Musically?  kds?  what pop song nowadays is not better?   don't say Daddy Yankee with Justin Beiber.  don't say Adriana Grande.  Don't say Eminem with Pink. I never heard a Beyoncé song this bad.  admit it: kds: you know 'Halo' is better.  Rhiannon?  'Umbrella'? MUCH better.   I think of Taco, 'Puttin' on the Ritz'.  BETTER.  doggone...Murray Head forced Steely Dan right out of the cellar...


Which modern pop song is worse than One Night in Bangkok.  I'd say all of the above.  I always thought this song would translate well to a hard rock, or even metal song (I thought the early 2000s band Disturbed would be perfect for it).  

Sure, Taco's Puttin on a Rtiz is better because the source song is better.  
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Could Taco beat up Murray Head, though?  that is the question on every Texan's mind...
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Could Taco beat up Murray Head, though?  that is the question on every Texan's mind...


I don't know.  If Murray could handle one night in Bangkok, he might be able to take the Taco.  
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Like this - more a concept than a band:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/steely-dan/biography
http://www.newsweek.com/steely-dan-walter-becker-peg-aja-670103
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/09/listen-to-what-is-probably-steely-dans-greatest-ev.html

Don't know - was it more of the "coasts" who liked SD?  They were amazing.  The 70's were saved by Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen and The Dan.  All else was gobbledy-gookery!  A few other acts here and there though - but these were the people who stood above ^  The disco drove us to ducks and the punks were punks. 

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Some from Lee's week 15, "Here Comes Summer", some not.

Family of the Year, "Summer Girl"

The Head and the Heart, "In the Summertime

Imagine Dragons, "Summer"

Wilco, "Summer Teeth"

Stevie Wonder, "Summer Soft"

The Doors, "Indian Summer"

Big Brother & the Holding Company, "Summertime"

The Danleers, "One Summer Night"

The Beach Boys, "All Summer Long" and "Summer's Gone"



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More Kinks...
The other "Summers Gone"


and "End of the Season"

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PAUL ADSETT  [wave]
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Like this - more a concept than a band:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/steely-dan/biography
http://www.newsweek.com/steely-dan-walter-becker-peg-aja-670103
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/09/listen-to-what-is-probably-steely-dans-greatest-ev.html

Don't know - was it more of the "coasts" who liked SD?  They were amazing.  The 70's were saved by Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen and The Dan.  All else was gobbledy-gookery!  A few other acts here and there though - but these were the people who stood above ^  The disco drove us to ducks and the punks were punks. 


I'm not sure if it's a coastal thing.  I'm on the east coast, but whenever SD comes on the radio, it's an immediate click.  

When it comes to the 70s, I'll take my Floyd, Queen, Purple, Sabbath, Springsteen (agree with you there, his best material is from the 70s), Heep, Grand Funk, BOC, the list goes on, and the Boys from Hawthorne put out some stellar music too.
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Some fine songs this week and easy for me to rank them:

Gold -- "Black Cow", Steely Dan. For me, Steely Dan were the gold standard for sophisticated, jazzy pop rock in the 70s, and their often cryptic, cynical, sarcastic lyrics were classic. One of my favorite all-time groups, the arrangements, production qualities, and originality on their albums were always excellent, and the Aja album is the epitome of studio and performance excellence and musical creativity. "Black Cow" is but one of numerous outstanding songs on the album, and it easily gets my gold vote this week. I couldn't agree more with the numerous effusive things Al Forsyth and the critics have to say about this group, this album, and this song. Aja is one of my top five all-time favorite albums that I never tire of listening to. I've had the good fortune to see Steely Dan in concert twice during the past decade or so (once with former band member (and native St. Louisan) Michael McDonald, and once with Elvis Costello and his band), and they were a real delight! So good to hear a lot of their classic songs performed live in concert, including a number of songs from Aja and a rave-up version of "Bodhisattva". RIP Walter Becker (1950-2017).

Silver -- "Every Morning", Sugar Ray. A massive pop, rock, and adult contemporary hit in 1999, the song is a lovely pop confection with a contemporary (90s era) edge, and a lovely acoustic guitar accompaniment. I enjoyed the song a lot back when it came out and I still do.

Bronze -- "The Girls on the Beach", Beach Boys. A lovely ballad in the classic early Beach Boys style. But, for me, it sounds too derivative -- too much like a rehash of several other Beach Boys songs and themes, most notably "Surfer Girl" and "Keep An Eye on Summer".  

Tin -- "One Night in Bankok", Murray Head. Certainly a non-typical pop hit in the mid-80s, but it didn't particularly appeal to me. Interesting return to the pop charts by Murray Head, after his early 1971 hit "Superstar" from the Jesus Christ Superstar soundtrack album.  

Thanks, Cindy. Good mix of battle songs this week, and an original way to cast your theme in the form a dream sequence. 

Your intro to this week's theme, "Sister Mary Elephant" by Cheech & Chong brought back some fun flashback memories of when I was a young high school English teacher at the time this song came out. My students and I used to have some good laughs riffing on this comedy sketch that became a radio hit in early 1974.
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Could Taco beat up Murray Head, though?  that is the question on every Texan's mind...

I’m not a Texan, but I’d gladly beat up Murray Head WITH a taco.

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Tom,  thanks for my new band name - A Forsyth and the Critics!  The critical(s) ARE right, to a degree (the lyrics and the form are different).  I was on the edge of where to go with this week and was close to Black Cow as a gold BUT GOTB always gets to me.  If it were Aja, Deacon Blues or maybe even Peg - I may have gone to the Dan, as Black Cow is just a trifle behind them on one of the GREAT albums ever made in rock history. From the songs to the playing to the production, of course, to the arrangements.  Not quite up to snuff with this album from 1966 that had a band and San Diego Zoo animals posed with them as that was ground breaking and still is!!!!

So glad to at least have seen The Dan perform, and correct again, the fans around us were either drunk, stoned, or both as there was that element to their music as well.  But those albums, for me beginning with Katy Lied, right on through were ground-breaking. 

Sugar R and MH are just (pimples, mosquitoes, you fill in) compared to the BB's and SD (peanuts and popcorn compared to high-end dining). One thing that is so amazing about the blue-board and how it votes, is that it is such a cross section and one NEVER knows how it will vote. That is both the fun and the cool about this place. One NEVER knows.

Aja is just complete higher ground for me, of course as is Pet Sounds.  One of those albums you can just put on the headphones/cans (or whatever) and get lost in time and say, what a journey THAT was.  Brings me back now to a little trio that played together briefly (self and two others) and one of the guys saying SD - no way - Boston is better!  The other two (self included) just went what?  What is wrong with you????  EVERYTHING is an acquired taste.  Nothing really wrong with peanuts and popcorn either [smile]

And kds - nothing wrong with the hard stuff!

SOOOOO sorry to hear of the passing of Walter Becker - I just didn't know.  Now it is only Donald Fagen:

Meanwhile - nuance:


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"How I Spent My Summer Vacation" in 3 words --- Enjoyed the weather! (Details, details...)

A Day At Grand Beach (aka GOLD), BB's - The Girls on the Beach -- Those darn harmonies again, huh?  [smile]

Tubing on a Lazy River (aka SILVER), Steely Dan - Black Cow -- Good chillaxing, meandering tune for that activity (if you can call sitting back in a tube an activity). Oooh, and did someone say root beer float? Pass one over here!

Outdoor Summer Theater (aka BRONZE), Murray Head, One Night in Bangkok -- Lofty and ambitious like live theater can be. A post-ABBA project with Bjorn and Benny's fingerprints on it, along with others.

Goin' for Ice Cream or Gelato (aka TIN), Sugar Ray, Every Morning -- Nice guitar with yelpy vocals. 

Thanks, Cindy!
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More from week 15:

The Smithereens, "Girl Don't Tell Me"


The Fiery Furnaces, "Here Comes the Summer"


The Ladybug Transistor, "Like a Summer Rain"


10cc, "Sand In My Face"


Ariel Pink, "One Summer Night"


Lindsey Buckingham, "Holiday Road"


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I'm another Steely Dan fan.  They're Great.  (Scratch that out - Good.) [smile]


What probably really happened last summer;

Diamond Youth "Sunburn".



Catching Flies "Daymarks".



Charlotte OC "Hangover".





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They're Great.  (Scratch that out - Good.) [smile]


Ahh, yes....borrowing from that classic Brian Wilson autograph for Don Henley. 

Just squeaks ahead of not recognizing Bono and asking him for a Diet Coke. 

Best. Brian. Moments. Ever. [thumb]
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