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I'm all up in Phil and Don, so yeah, spill Darren.
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Deb and t, spilling in a minute or so.
Cantina, I knew that was you, buddy. nonbeliever didn't actually vote, did he? Did I miss something? Anyway, welcome back. You're just in time for the pointy end of the season.
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Deb, that is a very difficult election. My votes could’ve gone to any of the candidates. Three strong Everly Brothers connections this week; two in the same song. Gold - I’m Gonna Be an Engineer (Peggy Seeger - circa 1971) Charming, clever, talented. I’ve not managed to identify the initial release date of this as yet and am expecting a reply from Neill MacColl, Peggy’s son. Peggy was half-sister to Pete, was married to Ewan MacColl and was stepmother to the late Kirsty MacColl, an easy Gold Winner with ‘They Don’t Know’ (Week 3, Season V, Al Forsyth). Peggy is now 85 and lives in the UK. Written for her and performed by her… Silver - Sixteen Tons (Tennessee Ernie Ford - 1955) Written by Merle Travis about the Muhlenberg County, Kentucky mining area where the Everly family hail from. Ike Everly, a coal miner himself, and Merle were neighbours, and Ike taught Merle thumb-finger guitar style, as he had learned from Arnold Shultz. Chet Atkins also derived his playing from this style. Chet, in turn, was heavily involved with Don and Phil in their early recording days. Some would be aware that the Ev’s performed on Tennessee Ernie’s TV show, widening their appeal. Bronze - Short People (Randy Newman - 1977) Never knew the personnel on this. According to Wiki: I thought those backing voices sounded familiar. That is some line-up. Waddy Wachtel played extensively with the Everlys in the early ’70s. Warren Zevon was also in that band. Quoting songfacts.com on ‘Werewolves of London': Zevon wrote this with guitarist Robert "Waddy" Wachtel. When Zevon was working with The Everly Brothers, he hired Wachtel to play in their backing band. At one point, Phil Everly asked them to write a dance song for the Everly Brothers called "Werewolves Of London." Wachtel and Zevon were good friends and were strumming guitars together when someone asked what they were playing. Zevon replied, "Werewolves Of London," and Wachtel started howling. Zevon came up with the line "I saw a werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand," and they traded lyrics back and forth until they had their song. Participant - A Day in the Life of a Tree (The Beach Boys - 1971) Not exactly ‘Surfin’ USA’, is it? On first listen, you wonder who the hell that is. Turns out to be their manager at the time, Jack Rieley. Just when you think it can’t get any more bizarre, suddenly Van Dyke Parks starts ’singing’. But seriously….. it’s well-meaning and heartfelt. I get it - Brian picked Jack because he sounded wooden. Like a tree. He sure doesn’t sound like a singer. And oddly, the least likely song I would play but the only one of these four in my music collection and that I would wish to own. I wonder what the Dennis version sounded like. Found Van Dyke’s recollection of the session amusing: I went up there to congratulate them on acting like grown-ups. On continuing to push. Then they had me doing a vocal. I liked that song about the tree just fine. I was just called in to do some singing on one line. It worked out well. Of course I had to stumble out of the studio in pitch darkness. Brian turned out all the lights. Had to crawl out of there on the floor, clutching my wife. Most humiliating thing I've ever ... Oh it's a power trip all right. But I can get behind that. I can get behind the way Brian does it. It's funny to watch him when he can't find something he owns. It's cute when he ignores someone else's needs, because he can always plead insanity.
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Some would be aware that the Ev’s performed on Tennessee Ernie’s TV show, widening their appeal. You mean like the guy who posted this same clip on page #2? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This clip has nothing to do with this weeks BotB. but I've never seen it, and imagined some of you might enjoy it.... Lovin' Spoonful (live) May the Bird of Paradise youtube.com/watch?v=HPIHAYqVQPQ __________________ I'm not a real billionaire, but I play one on TV!
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Darren, so t had one down.
I would have been 8 when this episode of the “Ford Show” aired. Odds are very good that I watched this. But remembering back to 8 years old is tough. I do know I was very aware of All I Have To Do Is Dream and that was 1958. Good clip. I’ve seen a guitar played by two but this is the first to see one played by 3. The list of participants on Short People is interesting. There are names associated with the Beatles that I recognized. I appreciate the Peggy Seeger input, but sorry to say I don’t think it will go very far here this week. If you played ADITLOAT for random people and asked them to guess whose song it is I don’t think many would believe it is a Beach Boys song.
Meanwhile, here are a few more songs to wind down by. We have hours yet to go.
Hanging Chad (This video is likely not to play everywhere. Try the Spotify link if you subscribe):
https://open.spotify.com/track/3GmVgcEfRRH6kKRTgpPzB5 The Swamp Song (Album Version) The Shadows – F.B.I. (1961) [High Quality Stereo Sound]
Dead Kennedys - Government Flu
Shut Down -The Beach Boys (Maybe the US gov't on December 8
th?) __________________ “ Oooooooo Merry Christmas Saint Nick"
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We can't be - but who was more, Eliza or Alexander? __________________ A diamond necklace played the pawn...
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A couple to go out on...
The Boomtown Rats - Whitehall 1212 youtube.com/watch?v=nlJTBlin9XkJust as relevant now as it was 49 years ago? Immigrants? check Police brutality? check Foreign war? check It's up to us? check Steppenwolf - Monster youtube.com/watch?v=Sk3sURDS4IA __________________ I'm not a real billionaire, but I play one on TV!
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This week, do we only get to vote for one?
GOLD - Randy Newman. With all these songs sitting a hair's breadth apart, I really had no idea which way I was going to sort these. Comes as a surprise shuffling them around to find this one keeps rising (ironically) back to the top. SILVER - Tennessee Ernest Ford. If this guy really has to shift around sixteen tons of stuff every day, then I feel sorry for the poor guy. And when he says people ought to get out of the way, I wondered if he's doing the lot in one load. Never heard this one before but I like this sound. BRONZE - TBB. Might be the morbid one-finger organ work that gets me, might be the fact that nothing actually happens and this song really goes nowhere, might be that ascending one-finger organ stepping up a bit and threatening to swamp the pretty little melody bit at the end, but this one slips on through my consciousness and right out the door pretty quickly. Best sentiments by far, though. We forget we've only got one wee planet. TIN - Peggy Seeger. Great lyrics again, reminding me of the incredible "Girls Can Do Anything" campaign that was big over here when I was a child. She really had me when she said she wants to spew doing all those domestic chores. Peggy, I love you style and you get top marks for your message, but vocally, I might not want to hear you sing for too long in one go. If I based this week's choices on song messages, the Beach Boys and Peggy would be my top two picks. More Sierra Ferrell. And the Dixie Chicks, who do a better job of this than Fleetwood Mac, imo. Mr Cohen, thank you. Thanks, Deb. __________________
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Quick late vote , actually in the same order as the cut and paste so that saves a job!
Gold-Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford Silver-Randy Newman - Short People Bronze-The Beach Boys: A Day in the Life of a Tree Tin-Peggy Seeger's "Gonna Be An Engineer" Did Tom Waits ever record Day in the Life of a Tree ?....if not , he should have done....its his sort of vibe !
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Three things that made me say:
t Bedford...nice find with that snippet of The Lovin' Spoonful covering a classic novelty tune. Darren --- Aack! Not one but two Eagles singing backup on Randy's track here? Deb #1 -- Your mention of the James Joyce "Trees" poem gave me a slightly political flashback. Back in 11th grade, my English teacher would have us begin each class with a few minutes of "journal" … just writing about anything that came to mind. It was autumn 1983 with nukes in the news and a big TV movie "The Day After" recently, so I brain stormed this l'il updated version of that (ahem): I doubt that I will ever see Plant Earth in tranquility Indeed, if nuclear missiles fall I may never see the world at all! Surprisingly, the teacher wrote me a note, asking for my permission for her to submit so some magazine or publication, some smaller scale teacher-type one. I consented but she moved away at the end of the year without me knowing if it ever did see the light of day wherever it went...so, thanks for this opportunity!
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SILVER BBs BRONZE Peggy. To be honest I hadn't heard of her when I saw her at the folk festival but she was one of the headline acts. Sounded pretty good. She probably did sing this one. TIN Tennessee Ernie Last I checked, we still have the same Prime Minster as last week.
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inordinately difficult to separate
and no space'n'time to debate at length... gold: 'short people- - who needs pc? silver: 'gonna be an engineer' - girl power! bronze: 'day in the life of a tree' - it ain't easy being green... tin: 'sixteen tons' - it ain't easy being an indentured labourer... cheers
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Polls are now closed. No more ballots will be counted.
bonnie, this was a close call for many of us. The only real outlier was Peggy Seeger. I expected that. Thanks for sticking it out and giving my selections a good listen.
Surprisingly, the teacher wrote me a note, asking for my permission for her to submit so some magazine or publication, some smaller scale teacher-type one.
Lisa, I hope your teacher gave you proper credit. Of course, you probably would have known if your musing gained notoriety, in which case you might be due some glory.
D.A.N, maybe we could trade a PM for a President?
Thanks, paul. It isn’t easy being short, either, but I thank you for the up vote for the vertically challenged. Sometimes a quick vote is an easy vote. No time to second guess. A lot of times I think it captures the most honest reaction.
Thanks Al, and t for the additional exit poll entertainment.
Here’s how it all turned out:
Gold - Randy Newman - Short People, Total Points: 44.5 4 Gold, 6 Silver, 4 Bronze, 1 Tin, 1 Bronze/Tin Tie
Silver – Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford, Total Points: 43
6 Gold, 3 Silver, 3 Bronze, 4 Tin
Bronze – The Beach Boys: A Day in the Life of a Tree, Total Points: 42
4 Gold, 4 Silver, 6 Bronze, 2 Tin
Tin – Peggy Seeger's "Gonna Be An Engineer", Total Points: 30.5
2 Gold, 3 Silver, 2 Bronze, 8 Tin, 1 Bronze/Tin Tie
Number of Players: 16
Total Points: 160
Thanks to all 16 voters. And thank goodness our US voting is over. Although I don’t know if anything was really accomplished.
Now, Cindy’s got some some tunes all ready for us this week. I tell you, Maryland bars have some fine food. Don’t read Cindy’s battle hungry. __________________ “ Oooooooo Merry Christmas Saint Nick"
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Coming in before the final buzzer with my votes:
Gold -- "A Day in the Life of A Tree", Beach Boys. While an obvious interpretation of this song is about damage to the environment, a popular topic back in 1971, a deeper reading of the song is that it's a confessional song by Brian about his damaged emotional and physical condition in the early 70s. We might think of it as a parallel theme to Brian's poignant "'Til I Die", which was a musical and thematic highlight of the Surf's Up album, which also featured this song. Below my votes, please see a detailed excerpt from an analysis of this important song that I first posted here way back in 2005. Silver -- "Short People", Randy Newman. Randy's perhaps odd or snide lyrics about "short people" is actually an excellent satire about any form of discrimination of groups of people for their superficial features (e.g., skin color), ethnicity, or beliefs. Just think of a group commonly discriminated against and insert them into the song in place of "short people" and the point becomes more obvious. Newman is one of the best of his generation at musical satire and social commentary in his lyrics, if you review his broad body of work over the past 50 years. Bronze -- "Gonna Be An Engineer", Peggy Seeger. A poignant, direct assault on traditional paternalistic society's stereotypes of what a woman should be/become. Fortunately, thanks to the women's rights movements of the 70s and 80s, more recent women's rights movements, ongoing breaking of glass ceilings in recent years, and contemporary changes in societal values, these old attitudes are becoming more outdated in much of modern society, despite continued resistance among a number of old-school males, including our current US president. Our society would likely be much better off if more bright women were in more positions of authority in all facets of society. In our recent elections in the US this past week, women gained a record number of seats in our US Congress and in other parts of government, and I'm hopeful this trend will continue, especially if it means weeding out paternalistic or misogynistic males who stand in the way of true equal opportunity (in all respects) for women and minorities. Tin -- "Sixteen Tons", Tennessee Ernie Ford. Like the song above, this song may seem a bit outdated on the surface, but it's a great song for calling attention to the need for improving and protecting workers' rights and the value of labor unions to fight for workers. So many of our current work conditions are due in large part to improvements in working conditions fought for by labor unions and their individual workers. While the protagonist in this song "owed his soul to the company store", in more modern times workers are held down in a number of places by low minimum wages, lack of benefits, hiring fewer full-time workers and more part-time workers with no/few benefits and low wages, sending manufacturing and service jobs offshore for cheap foreign labor, etc. Though working conditions have improved since the 1950s when this song was a hit, the struggle continues. As mentioned above, here is a lengthy excerpt from an analysis of "A Day in the Life of A Tree" that I first posted here way back in 2005: "In the context of the early 70s period in the U.S. and of the "Surf's Up" album, a literal reading of "A Day in the Life of a Tree" (co-written and lead vocals sung by Jack Rieley, rather than by Brian) is very much a song about the negative impact of air pollution on trees (e.g., "Feel the wind burn through my skin, The pain, the air is killing me", or "But now my branches suffer", or "Trees like me weren't meant to live, If all this world can give Is pollution and slow death.") To pursue the meaning and interpretations of this song further, I also checked several critical sources (Andrew G. Doe and John Tobler's "Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys: the Complete Guide to Their Music", "Add Some Music to Your Day: Analyzing and Enjoying the Music of the Beach Boys" edited by Don Cunningham and Jeff Bleiel, and "Back to the Beach: A Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys Reader" edited by Kingsley Abbott). All of these respected sources interpreted the lyrics to this song as being about the environment and pollution (e.g., "this stately eulogy to greenery" -- AGD/Tobler (p.79), "the condition of the ecology is personified in the voice of a dying tree...the interdependence of man and nature" -- Cunningham/Bliel (p.13), and "a shattering and emotional indictment of the way we're letting the world rot around us" -- Abbott (p.88) ). Likewise, this has always been my reading of the song too -- using the literary technique of personification, a suffering tree tells us of the unhealthy and destructive impact of pollution on trees and nature, and leading to the tree’s (i.e., nature's) eventual "slow death". With all this having been said about the literal meaning of this song, Sir Rob's (a former fellow blueboarder) interpretation of the alternative or allegorical meaning of this song is quite compelling. When read as a personal plea by Brian about the difficult life and "slow death" he is experiencing at the time (as another cue, this song immediately precedes Brian's autobiographical masterpiece "Til I Die" on the album), the song takes on a whole new and deeper meaning. (e.g., "Feel the wind burn through my skin, The pain, the air is killing me...For years my limbs stretched to the sky...but now my branches suffer...and my leaves don't offer Poetry to men of song"; "Trees like me weren't meant to live if all this world can give is pollution and slow death"; and perhaps most telling "Lord, oh now I lay me down, No life's left to be found, There's nothing left for me". ) Interpreted in this allegorical context, this song can also be seen as a painful plea from Brian for relief from the "pain", "suffering", and "slow death" he was experiencing during the early 70s, along with his relative inability at the time to "offer poetry to men of song", and his well-documented years of bed-ridden depression ("Lord, oh now I lay me down...There's nothing left for me"). Thanks to Sir Rob, for opening my eyes to a whole new, deeper, alternative meaning of this fascinating song. I hope that some of you will also find this analysis compelling enough to go back and give "A Day in the Life of a Tree" a fresh listen to determine what you think about its meanings." (Tom Tobben, July 2, 2005) In closing, here are a couple more of my favorite solo Beatles songs with a socio-political message: A workers' party-styled message from John Lennon: And, from George Harrison, a peace party plea, coming during an ugly time of war in various parts of the world, as well as a spiritual message, from his 1973 album Living in the Material World: Excellent battle this week! Addendum: Well, it looks like I may have just missed the polling deadline tonight. When I began typing my votes and comments a little while ago, the polls were still open and no specific closing time mentioned. As such, please simply take my votes, comments, and analysis as supplemental information with no weight in the balloting results.
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Well done, Deb. The people have spoken and those results are in the book found on page 2 of this forum. It was the third appearance for Randy Newman and his first electoral win. His record: Laugh and Be Happy (a Tin in Week 40 of Season II - Teenage Symphony), I Love L.A. (a Tin in Week 9 of Season V, 5th in Tin Play-Off - Cindy Hood), Short People (a Gold in Week 38 of Season IX - Deb#1) It was the second time around for ‘A Day in the Life of a Tree’. Previously, it won the Silver in Week 10 of Season III (Tom Tobben) with scores of 49 points and 27.22% from 18 voters. This time, it scored 42 and 26.25 from 16 voters, making it likely for the Bronze Play-Off. Seven of the tracks from Surf's Up have been used. Its record: Don’t Go Near the Water (a Tin in Week 12 of Season IX - Tom Tobben), Long Promised Road (a Gold in Week 25 of Season II, 2nd in Preliminary Final, 9 th in Gold Play-Off - Roy Roger Bridge), Student Demonstration Time (a Bronze in Week 11 of Season V - Tom Tobben; a Tin in Week 26 of Season VII - Cindy Hood), Feel Flows (a Gold in Week 44 of Season VIII, 8 th in Gold Play-Off - GGH), A Day in the Life of a Tree (a Silver in Week 10 of Season III - Tom Tobben; a Bronze in Week 38 of Season IX - Deb#1), 'Til I Die (a Gold in Week 27 of Season I - Lisa Graham; a Gold in Week 13 of Season VIII, 1 st (annual Gold) in Gold Play-Off - Tom Tobben), 'Surf's Up' (a Gold in Week 8 of Season II, 2nd (annual Silver) in Gold Play-Off, 6 th in the Ultimate Battle - Cynthia D. Hood) Please continue to support your hosts.