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Cindy Hood

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Clarke's Saloon was a small bar/restaurant in Severna Park, Maryland where I used to live.  I couldn't find any bio on it, so I'm writing solely from my memories of this cool place.  Clarke's was open from the late 70's to late 80's.  It was a little on the dark side as bars usually are, with high tables and stools, a huge bar and a jukebox in the front of the establishment. 

In early 1978, a friend (gal pal) and I went to the city docks in Annapolis on a Friday night, starting out at McGarvey's pub then over to Riordan's pub.  As it usually was on Friday nights in Annapolis, it was packed. I was starving, so since there was no place to sit, we left Annapolis and drove back towards home.  My friend suggested Clarke's, so we stopped there. They had a generous menu with sandwiches, steaks, 1/2 pound burgers, Old Bay seasoned steak fries, club sandwiches, Chef salad (that could feed 3 people), shrimp, cream of crab soup, french onion soup and desserts.  The specialty of Clarke's was their frozen Strawberry Daiquiri that was out of this world! I got one of the owners to give me their recipe and he did! Their prices were extremely reasonable, too.  So, I suggested Clarke's to my nurse friends at the hospital where I worked and we went there one Friday night after payday.  They loved it so much that we ended up going there every pay day, eating dinner and staying until late. 

On Friday nights, Clarke's had their weekly music trivia contest with a DJ.  If you won, you got shooters for everyone at your table.  I cannot tell you how many contests I won and you'd think I took them broke, but we were actually very good for business as we were there for several hours, eating, drinking and having a great time.  The owners really seemed to love us being there.

In 1985, I got married and two years later I had twins, so I was busy at home and didn't get the chance to revisit Clarke's.  I had heard some time after that they closed it.  I was really bummed about that news because it really was a nice and affordable place to go grab a bite and had such an easy going, casual atmosphere.  

Cheers!

Here are 4 songs that I remember very well from Clarke's jukebox during that time period.  

1.  The Beach Boys for Good Timin'.


2.  The Rolling Stones for Miss You.


3.  The Doobie Brothers for Dependin' On You.


4.  .38 Special for Fantasy Girl.


I hope you all enjoyed my little story about Clarke's Saloon and the 4 links I've selected for this week.

Cindy







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Cindy -- I just read your little story and did enjoy it. Also, it's 4 am, I can't sleep and you've convinced me to have a snack. [wave]


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Three hours is enough sleep. Let's vote!

Gold -- The Rolling Stones -- "They're just dyin' to meet you!"

Silver -- The Beach Boys -- One of their best from the lean years.

Bronze -- .38 Special -- Not my cup of tea but a bit ahead of the next one.

Tin -- The Doobie Brothers -- I just can't stand the sounds these guys make.


From that era, not subtle, probably more popular some miles north of Maryland and possibly never posted in this sub-forum before: 

Bruce Springsteen -- "Ramrod" (1980)
youtube.com/watch?v=DLIX6GpUGpU

Let's go back to bed!



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Cindy, when you left they went out of business!  Great story and the title of the week.  We all had our little places, I suppose, where the quarters went in and he sounds came out.  In college, for me and our group of many, it was Lil's and post college it was just some time in The Shed. Good memories of Lil's.    

I can vote now as well. 

Gold to The Stones without question.  They had that keep on going mentality that always came up with something.  We mostly played Shattered. 

Close on the Silver/Bronze

Silver to The Beach Boys and the smooth Carl vocals.  Should have been on 15 Big Ones.
Bronze to The Doobies and the Michael McDonald era.

Tin and far off, 38 Special, who I always just clicked off. 

So, raise one up for Clarke's Saloon (in my case a Diet Coke or green tea now that it's gotten cold out) and let it go down smoothly. 

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Gold - The Rolling Stones - Miss You.  Got this song a mile in front of others..

Silver - The Beach Boys - Good Timin'.

Bronze - Doobie Brothers - Dependin' On You.

Tin - .38 Special - Fantasy Girl
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GOLD: The Beach Boys - Easily the best track here.

SILVER: The Rolling Stones - Didn't recall this from the title, but I did recognize it. I quit paying attention to the Stones shortly after Brian Jones demise. Disco Stones. This is embarrassing (or should be).

BRONZE: The Doobie Brothers - You can "bogart" this particular joint.

TIN: .38 Special - I was expecting more of a metal band. Not that it would have made a difference.

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Neighborhood Bar News
Dateline: Cleveland, Ohio

1. The Phantasy Niteclub hosted early shows by Joan Jett, Iggy Pop, The Cramps, Sonic Youth, Devo, The Pagans & The Ramones. Nine Inch Nails played their first gig there. It was scheduled to be sold/closed (for musical purposes) back in September, but the buyer backed out on the last day. The owners have started booking shows, again.

2. The Euclid Tavern (where Joan Jett & Michael J. Fox filmed "Light of Day") has (again) been closed.


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but where did you find such a cool place that would have 'Good Timin' on the juke box, Cindy?

Since a young kid, I always loved playing songs on juke boxes, and still remember those places and songs warmly.  ('Hey Jude' at a bowling alley in Hurst, Texas (because you get your money's worth; 'Have you Ever Seen the Rain?'; 'I Wanna be With You' by the Raspberries at the Dairy Barn in Newcastle, Oklahoma; even 'It's Okay' at ...Skatarama I think it was, in Oklahoma City.   Sometimes, I would even play songs just for purposes of annoying people, such as 'Destitute and Losin' by Grand Funk, and the B side of 'Dream On' by Aerosmith. 

1.  'Good Timin'  

my favorite song on that disappointing album, which included a terrible disco arrangement of a great song.

2. 'Miss You'

remember it very well, on one of the best mid-later Rolling Stone albums.  Yes, as Bedford says, it's disco, and right, Al, not up there with 'Shattered', but definitely qualifies as 'good disco'.  You know, like 'Strawberry Letter 23' and 'Funky Town'. 

3. 'Fantasy Girl' by 38 Special

4. Doobie Bros 'Depending on You'


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Don't have any big bar/club stories, really, other than remembering the ones that accepted very phony, hand-changed birth years on instructional driver's permits and still let me in...one had a 'suspicious persons box' I called it, where you had to sit.  Technically, this was illegal in Texas at the time, but like Oklahoma, they had ways around the law, such as charging a private club fee.  I never had a drop of alcohol until age 24.  I just wanted to see ...The Ramones and The Clash and 999  and Blondie and so forth.  I believe that club was called the 'Agora Ballroom'.  Perry Cloud owned/managed it.  I know, because at age 17, when I was working at Granny's Dinner Playhouse, which he also owned or managed, he let me drive his vintage Mercedes over to deliver something or other.  Got to hear a bunch of free concerts at Granny's, while bussing tables, including...Fats Domino, Marty Robbins, etc., and lots of comedians/...and as my friends will complain, you listen to these routines over and over again, for weeks at a time, you remember all those jokes... 

Was sad to find out Bronco Bowl in Dallas, or Oak Cliff, after...the Clash and Squeeze, etc., closed years ago in favor of a Home Depot or Lowes. 

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a nifty theme upon which to hang your picks.
and a nicely written tale.

first money i ever slotted into a jukebox was in a  cafe
on the beachfront along the south coast at pevensey bay.
quite a contrast to the garish holiday town of sunny brighton,
where i lived (and still do).
not hard pebbles, like those piled up on our beach.
not white cliffs, but a long, fairly bleak stretch of flat sandy shore,
with a perfunctory attempt at offering early 60's visitors some kind of seaside frolics.
a proper seashore.
a sort of frontier feel to it.
a proper end of civilisation spot.
also, the spot chosen by william of normandy to set foot upon our shores,
march a little north onto the chalkland away from the marshy flats
and wallop king harold to assume the throne of england.

here i was, 900 years later (bar 2 and a bit years),
enjoying a pre-teenage day out with a bunch of chums
- a choir outing, with fresh faced choirboys.
this was one of those rare treats.
led by the rather funky choirmaster
(who figures prominently in my appreciation of music of all varieties).
and this was a bit different to kicking a ball about on the grass outside st peter's.

some of us (well, me, anyway) could quote chunks of '1066 and all that'.
quite a few of us would make softy walter look positively butch.
few of us might seek to tackle and outsmart dennis the menace.
none of us could match the st trinians battalion,
though we might've picked up a few tips from the latest movie,
'the great st trinians train robbery'
which had been released a little earlier in the year.
i doubt many of us had any real, deep 'faith',
but we enjoyed singing.
that was what brought and kept us together.
and we enjoyed milling about together when not decked out in cassocks and frills.
well, we sort of milled about in factions.
it certainly wasn't 'lord of the flies'
but, already, there was the inevitable fractioning of the clean cut choir
into the grouping together of like minds.

and i wasn't of the squeaky clean, glowing halo section.
we weren't invading pevensey.
would've been skylarking,
jostly, jostly just jostling.
we were doing the trad british seaside day out,
at a windswept outpost of empire.
though, that was the summer when brighton was being invaded by mods and rockers.
groups of bikers and scooter clubs descending upon the town,
eyeing each other up,
skirmishing,
pitched battles on the seafront.
us choirboys, we might've longed to chorus 'we are the mods'
but here we were in an altogether quieter spot.
very english.
very civilised.
with frissons of would-be rebel tugging within,
wanting to out itself
we'd patently fail to channel some proto-brandoesque bravura.
more cliff's 'summer holiday' escapade
(i'd not seen 'the wild one' anyway,
though four years later 'if' proved to be a more powerful allegory
than 'quadrophenia' ever was for me).

so, the young would-be rebel bunch made a beeline for the cafe.
turning our back on the wholesome march along the tacky prom.
we would act out our boygang fantasy with a bottle of pop.
a bottle of pop and the jukebox.
i was fascinated.
it wasn't that i'd not been able to listen to pop music.
not that i was bereft of the excitement of popular music
(my uncle les had turned me onto skiffle music way back
and, by this time i'd heard my brother's copy of the 'surfin' usa' lp.
but, tjhs was a working machine that played thes platters if you fed it a siver coin.
we took it in turns to put 6d in the slot and press the buttons,
watch the machine swing into action,
scoop up it's 7" disc, sweep it onto the spinning turntable,
see the chunky arm swoop and deposit itself onto the intro groove.

2 minutes 59 seconds of loud pop music
with its accompanying crackles and pops.
followed by another short burst of amplified bliss.
followed by another.

and so, it came to my choice.
i was torn.
so many 45's to pick from
so little money to spend on this contraption,
i want to make it last.
last as long as possible.
so, calculatedly, i pick what i reckon is the longest single in the batch
(and a number 1 hit that had ousted the beatles from the top slot).
4 1/2 minutes long.
insert coin.
watch it select its pick of the poppermosts and play
- the animal 'house of the rising sun'.
a song about a brothel (not that i knew that at the time)
by a bunch of spotty reprobates from up north.
deep joy.
and great value for money...
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Cindy Hood

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So far I have the early bird votes from:  Larry, Al, stkilda4ever, tBedford and John B.

Larry - I've had nights like yours where I couldn't sleep.  Glad I gave you something to do during your sleeplessness.  Maybe the snack helped, too.  I've never been much of a Springsteen fan, but Ramrod is pretty good.  He had some great songs early on, but it seemed to me that his later material sounded like the same song with different lyrics.

Al - Clarke's probably did suffer from our long absence.  We spent a lot of time and money in there!  

Stkilda4ever - Thanks for getting in early with your votes!

tBedford - Thank you for your votes and comments on the songs.  Clarke's jukebox had mainly the light rock variety on there, but did have some hard rock - I recall AC/DC for one and Van Halen  in the early 80's.  When I first started going in  there, they had a disco song on the jukebox called Ring My Bell by Anita Ward.  I absolutely hated it when I first heard it, but soon started to like it.  So, when I saw it on the jukebox, I played it.  I played it for next few times I came in.  They removed it!  It really is kind of obnoxious when you think about it.  

John B. - The Beach Boys' L.A. Album came out in 1979.  The radio stations that I listened to in Maryland were Beach Boys friendly at the time and played Lady Lynda, Good Timin' and Here Comes the Night (though not the long version, thank goodness) and I believe that Good Timin' was pretty popular there.  Probably why it was on the jukebox.  

Paul - Thank you for your very picturesque description of the beaches and your activities as a young lad.  That was so nice.  The UK has so many castles, churches and rolling meadows that I've seen pictures of that I'd love to see in person.  Hope to see you back here to vote later in the week.



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I've never been much of a Springsteen fan, but Ramrod is pretty good.  He had some great songs early on, but it seemed to me that his later material sounded like the same song with different lyrics.

I stopped paying attention to his new music some time ago. Is it generally true that great songwriters run out of songs as the years go by? It seems that way. Or do we just stop listening because we can't absorb any more from them? 

I kind of forget about Springsteen and then see something amazing like this performance of "Badlands" in Rome two years ago:



He was on the Stephen Colbert show to talk about his book and said they're able to play some songs without rehearsal, almost on the spur of the moment, because they're all veterans of bar bands who had to be able to play almost anything. He also admitted that there is a guy with a teleprompter down in front of him to remind him of the lyrics. An excellent example: "You Never Can Tell" performed in Leipzig five years ago. Maybe it's just show business but it's still very cool.


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I believe there's some truth in what Cindy just said.  The 'Tracks' songs with Danny's organ, and expanded release sets (such as 'The Promise') with non-released songs 1973-1979, with the official albums released in the '70's, are Bruce's best.    This places Bruce in a very unique spot: millions believe his far less than best is his best.   Sinatra, the Beatles, and Elvis never had this problem!  I wonder if Bruce is alone in this predicament.  It's all about radio and TV airplay.  and if ...the people say how great you are for 'Glory Days' or 'I'm on Fire' or 'Cover Me' and so forth, why take the trouble to write another 'Jungleland' or 'Rosalita'?  (or 'Thundercrack' or 'Roulette' or 'Loose Ends' or 'I Want to Be Where the Bands Are').   Better a lot of people don't hear those songs, they might expect more of that quality...  It's MUCH EASIER to slum familiar yes, bar band/pedestrian chord sequences and lyrics about your little girlie, like 'Ramrod'. 

However, concerning Larry's point, I really like three relatively recent Bruce albums, you'll never hear the aging conservative/Yahoo trollers mention because they never listened to them and have no interest in ever listening to them:  "Magic," "Working on a Dream," and "Wrecking Ball."   Those three are solid albums.
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FINALLY.  I've had this on my computer for most of this year to share:

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Al -- A 90-minute documentary about recording a song that's less than 5 minutes long seemed like a bit much, unless it was "Good Vibrations". But it's the album Born To Run, not the song! Duh.

Elliott Smith -- "Between the Bars"
youtube.com/watch?v=n5g-91mwiNs

Willie Nelson -- "One For My Baby (and One More For the Road)"
youtube.com/watch?v=M8IOlLlqE28

Frank Sinatra -- for comparison purposes
youtube.com/watch?v=hkwdkUXQ1yo


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Hi Cindy.

I remember illegally entering bars way back when. One bar I recall very well played an eclectic mix of rubbish and rubble, with the odd ruby thrown in. It was where I first heard this, which was already retro but certainly packed a punch.



And during my university daze, I wasn't particularly enamoured with M people until I heard this. 



I loved your last post, mr adsett. Had to read it twice for enjoyment purposes.


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Bonnie, The Temptations had so many good songs and Ain't Too Proud To Beg was one of their best!  I listened to the M People and it's a great dance song or one just to get ya energized.  Right away with the piano jam at the beginning and also the melody sounded very similar to this one....

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