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Al Forsyth

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This was a bit of a roller coaster voting process for me the first few days.  Although the voting board was off and running with Sloop John B. My problem was how do I vote when I LOVE all four songs and bands/individuals. I have no problem casting a tie vote, if I have to, but that's just me. 

My GOLD this week goes to Marvin who pretty much did no wrong during his recording career.  What a terrible ending however.  Tom said it better than I was going, but What's Going On raised the bar (as did the album) much like Grapevine was such a radical departure from what he was doing. The song, vocal, production, playing was so important in its time in our country.  James Jamerson could also do no wrong.  It bucked even Berry Gordy:
https://medium.com/nobody-knows-nuthin/nobody-knows-nuthin-motowns-berry-gordy-vs-marvin-gayes-what-going-on-e60a1ea8d8dd
It's a classic though. 

So I go three-way-tie on the three other songs.

First with Sloop John B.  It sounds better on the remaster doesn't it?  The song is still debated whether it should have been on Pet Sounds.  Of course it was and always needed to be.  It is a Beach Boys' standard now.  When I took a studio recording class back in the 80's the head producer and teacher used Sloop to show wave length cancellation using the song as we walked around the studio - tones of the flute would come in and out.  Did "dog ears" Wilson even plan for this to happen? 

With Freddy and Queen, the first song that I ever heard by this band was this!  I was picking tobacco in the Connecticut tobacco field and when I was with the muso buds we always talking and sang music in the fields. This was one of them. And there was yet more Queen to come after this. 

Did Boris Spassky use a "killer queen" chess move?

They were brilliant players (the band) each and every one, but of course the one showman, writer and singer stood out.

She keeps a Moet and Chandon - the lyrics work.  Was Freddy the killer queen?  Or simply a grand play on words? 

I always loved the slide vocal resolutions.

Go see the film.

Heart's Dreamboat Annie got a lot of play by me when it first came out.  The band may have centered on the Wilson sisters but it really was a quality rock band from the beginning.  This yin and yang (ladies and guys/ acoustic and rock) has always worked. Crazy On You has all of that with Nancy's acoustic intros and Ann's power vocals. They continue to rock although there have been some family squabbles the past few years. 

So this is my take and vote the next to last battle of this year. 

Whenever you come to Cleveland, check out the Rock Hall on Lake Erie, but give yourself some time to explore.

Last night to cast some votes and the scores come out tomorrow morning in the eastern US. 

Rock on Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.




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Larry Franz

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Let the record show that of the nine Nilsson songs I posted yesterday, only six were sad! One was happy and two were cynical. 

Harry Nilsson -- "Mr. Richland's Favorite Song" (on the fleetingness of fame)
youtube.com/watch?v=h7wNm7GN-eg

"As Time Goes By"
youtube.com/watch?v=uYrvPKC5J84

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Gold - Marvin Gaye - What’s Goin’ On?
Silver - The Beach Boys - Sloop John B
Bronze - Heart - Crazy on You
Tin - Queen - Killer Queen


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Al Forsyth

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The Rock Hall votes are in and the results are:

Gold - The Beach Boys and Sloop John B. (45 Points)
Silver - Marvin Gaye and What's Going On (39 Points)
Bronze - Heart and Crazy On You (31 Points)
Tin - Queen and Killer Queen (25 Points)

14 Voters - (140 available points)

Go to Mary's current battle to catch some spirit and finish the ninth season - week 45.

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Darren J. Ray

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Well done, Al. 

They’re in the book, currently sitting near the bottom of page 2 of this forum. 


It was just the second appearance for the Beach Boys’ version of ‘Sloop John B’. 

It won the Gold in Week 32 of Season I (Prodigal Son) and finished 10th in the Gold Play-Off. 

In its week, it scored 69 points and 36.32% from 19 voters. 

This week, it scored 45 and 32.14 from 14 voters. 

A version of ‘Sloop John B’ by Papa Doo Run Run won the Gold in Week 40 of Season VIII (bonnie bella). 


It was the fifth appearance for Marvin Gaye. 

His record: 

I Heard It Through the Grapevine (a Gold in Week 9 of Season I, 6th in Preliminary Final - Pete Simpson),
Can I Get a Witness (a Gold in Week 40 of Season IV - snoops71), 
Let's Get It On (album version) (a Silver in Week 44 of Season VI - Cindy Hood),
Save the Children (a Bronze in Week 41 of Season VIII - Tom Tobben),
What’s Going On (a Silver in Week 44 of Season IX - Al Forsyth)


It was Heart’s first appearance in the Battle. 


‘Killer Queen’ is the ninth Battle song for that polarising band called Queen.

They’ve never won the Gold, but it was only their second Tin (also courtesy of you, Al). 

Their record:

Bohemian Rhapsody (a Silver in Week 8 of Season II - Cynthia D. Hood),
Love of My Life (a Tin in Week 31 of Season II - Al Forsyth),
Under Pressure (with David Bowie) (a Silver in Week 27 of Season V - Deb#1),  
We Are the Champions (a Silver in Week 38 of Season V - Roy Rogers),
Bicycle Race (a Bronze in Week 45 of Season V - Darren J. Ray),
Somebody to Love (a Silver in Week 34 of Season VIII, 4th in Silver Play-Off - GGH),
Friends Will Be Friends (a Bronze in Week 5 of Season IX - GGH),
Radio Ga Ga (a Bronze in Week 28 of Season IX - Cindy Hood),
Killer Queen (a Tin in Week 44 of Season IX - Al Forsyth)


One week to go before the play-offs begin. 

Please support Mary’s debut week in the chair. 

Merry Christmas, everyone. Only one hour to go here. 


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Al Forsyth

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 I shouldn't be dredging up an older Battle and I will be starting something on this topic elsewhere here at Brian.com.  I was at the Rock Hall on Wednesday and became a "member" for a year and also added Brian's name on their computer write-in and now want to find out how to pursue voting.  All four Beatles are in on their own.  So, just to get this ball rolling.  So Brian's name is in and people have to vote, but surely the powers that be will see his name in!


First, the Beach Boys' display there is such a weak showing.  Two guitars, (Al's and Carl's) and a set of drums (Dennis) and three of the their wardrobes - what they wore (Bruce, Carl and Mike).  Ummmmmm - there isn't anything of one of the GREAT musical minds of rock history there!!!!!!!

The Beatle, Stones, Elvis displays are big and moving and in their own areas.  The BB's are stuck between The Who and ZZ Top.  There is a larger display of Jimi Hendrix artifacts.  

Second, with everything that Brian has done - why isn't he in on his own?  

The Hall has to change some of this.  I'm going to pursue some of the processes with this - now that I can go for free any time that I want - which won't be many times, but I do like going every now and then.  

I'm going to begin another thread here somewhere about this subject. The Beach Boys and Brian Wilson are presently short changed at the Rock Hall.  Let's do something to fix this!

One good thing - as I was leaving the Hall into the Cleveland night, on came Wouldn't It Be Nice.  Fitting.

Okay - back to Mary's closing Christmas week and vote everyone, please. 

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