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bonnie bella

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My votes.

GOLD/ODD - The Monkees.  Oh so cute, and I don't think that's an ordinary rug, Larry, it looks distinctly Persian to me.  This song appealed immediately, and only got better as the week progressed.  An energetic and uplifting performance, and I didn't expect them to "let it rip" like they did here and there, so to speak.  


SILVER/STRANGE - Devo. Whup it, indeed they did, with a real one, apparently.  That flower pot hat and safety glasses combination are of the once seen, never forgotten variety, and the whole clip is ideal for giving small children nightmares.  I absorbed the whole thing just fine as a small child (oblivious), but that synthesized organ sound and men in makeup was becoming normal to me by then - poor kid.  Now it grates like fingernails on a blackboard.


BRONZE/BIZARRE - TBB.  Okay, I like it as a melody, and in it's other incarnations.  The super alarming "speaky bit" from 1.11 to 1.25 totally creeps me out though, and drops it an entire placing as a result.  It's much, much worse than the stupid lyrics.  Mike wrote these lyrics?  Has he ever heard that little phrase involving significant sized pebbles and glass houses?

  
TIN/WEIRD - Zappa.  I was expecting the Muppets to appear right through this one, still disappointed they didn't make an appearance.  Miss Piggy could have karate chopped him for me.





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Hey Cantina, I deliberately avoided putting the Residents into this and correct - very difficult to listen to.  I knew someone who was a fan of theirs and got me into their tapes early on but wow - tough.  They were mixers all right and the one-eyeballers.

Pete straightened us out on Randy Scouse title.  Impressed with Lisa's Monkee knowledge.  But the Beatles do NOT travel on YouTube anymore which is seriously messing up my next BOTB.  Do IT IN The Road and many other White Album songs = great and strange.  Also Lisa and Bonnie ALWAYS crack me up here!  Larry - always keeps this interesting here!

Bonnie, I was at the Woodstock 94 event and very close to the stage.  It was downright scary moving anywhere there as I felt one slip in the mud and you are buried in people.  So on that note - something from it I thought was weird at the time but fell in love with.  But first Lisa called me out on some crying and not a weird song but R. Smith always looks out there:

I cannot believe that they are still touring.  Great!
From Woodstock 94 (NIN) - my introduction to Industrial Rock.  The crowd went crazy after this. 

How did we miss this one? It was a hit single in the US:

Thanks, Tom, for a weird and wonderful week!


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Lisa, do those Beatles clips work in Canada?

They sure don't seem to work anywhere else. 
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 Impressed with Lisa's Monkee knowledge


Al -- Giving credit where credit's due, if you meant my mentioning the UK charts, that was courtesy of Tom in his intro preamble. That was news to me; as Johnny Carson used to say, "I DID not know that".

Darren -- ???  If Canada is immune to the Beatles YouTube ban, between that and Americans dreading "whatsisname" becoming the next President in November, we could have a serious boom in immigration here shortly.  [wink] 
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The Walker Brothers reformed in the late 1970's, releasing 3 LP's, including Nite Flights (an import, here in the States). This is one of Scott's contributions, titled The Electrician. If Brian Wilson is about chords, Scott Walker is about dis-chords.

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Hi, Tom!   I finally made it!

I'll go with the following:

GOLD:  The Monkees for Randy Scouse Git. I hadn't heard this in years!  Great to see it in the battle, too.  

SILVER:  Beach Boys for She's Goin Bald.  I've never listened to this one all the way through before.  It's nice, it's ok, but you just can't beat those vocal harmonies!

BRONZE:  Devo for Whip It.  A popular 80's song  that ran it's course early on with me.

TiN/PEWTER:  Zappa. Nah.

My final answer.

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whey hey!
wibble wobble.
smile, gurn, giggle...

tin: 'whip it'

- don't really dislike it.
just don't like it enough to place it higher.
mark mothersbaugh, of course,
has a career in a variety of art forms
and found fortune, if not name fame, as writer of tv themes,
including the faaab 'rugrats'.
(pays better than going out on the road with a band,
- hmmm, where does that sound familiar?)

bronze:' 'lonesome cowboy burt' 
- not seen the '200 motels' movie since its first release.
loved it in a zany way then.
not so sure how well it'll bear re-seeing now,
but must seek it out.
the more structured middle segment is more complex zappa
but this wasn't one of the best segments, methinks.
a deliberately crass character, drenched in that 'irony'
that isn't lost to all americans.
however, this track isn't exactly the highspot in jimmy carl black's career
(thanks, t bedford, for the flurry of arthur brown tracks
- as well as that album, when he lived near austin tx,
(before moving back to britain and living right nearby outside sunny brighton),
he and jcb had a decorating business called black & brown
- or was it brown & black?).
love flo'n'eddy.

silver: she's goin' bald'
- the whole 'smiley smile' album was bonkers.
this was bonkers with added humour.
i had no idea of the 'lost' 'she gives speeches' track at the time.
later, knowing what was jettisoned,
and eventually hearing the 'smile' pieces
doesn't detract from enjoying this track itself on its own terms.

gold: 'alternate title'  
- we didn't get the original title on the single here in blighty,
not that the lyrics bore any relation to it,
but it gives a nod to tv show 'til death us do part'
with comic bigotted alf garnett character's ranting
at his liverpudlian son in law
(the most used put down was aimed at his most sensible 'silly old moo' wife).
the character transmogrified to the usa as archie bunker.
nb the actor who played the son in law, tony booth,
is father of tony blair's missus cherie).
this is a faaab performance by dolenz
and one of my favourite monkees tracks.
love it immensely.

a wacky week - ta,
wishi'd enough time to listen to all offerings.

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Lots of respondents in the past day, as we come down the home stretch for this week's Weird, Odd, Strange, and Bizarre battle. And it certainly has been, with all sorts of unusual songs and artists thrown into the mix.

After this week's venture into the outer edges or fringe of pop/rock, pushing its outer boundaries into exploratory territory, next week everyone gets to take the week off for our mid-year break. Thus, everyone can go back to listening to whatever type of music makes you feel good or happy, for at least the next week.

Lisa, Cantina, bonnie, Cindy, and paul, thanks for your votes and related comments! Likewise, thanks also to Larry, Lisa, t, Cantina, bonnie, and Al for the additional unusual songs/videos and comments. What started out slowly this week ended up having a good deal of added comments and songs/videos.

Larry, that more recent Scott Walker soundtrack score certainly was different than what we had come to expect from him back in his earlier years. Certainly strange, musically jarring, and heavy on the dissonance. Interesting, coming from him! If the rest of that Laurie Anderson album is as weird as the song you posted, good thing I've never checked it out -- no appeal to me. Interesting that the song was a big hit in the UK. 

Lisa, it must be nice, still being able to access Beatles songs on media players in Canada. I had been considering including their strange song "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)" in this week's battle, but can no longer access any of their original music. Was good to see that Cantina mentioned this Beatles oddity in his comments earlier today. Thanks also for posting the original "He Gives Speeches" from the SMiLE sessions so that others could listen to the genesis of what eventually became "She's Going Bald". Also, you're certainly right about a potential exodus of concerned US citizens to Canada, if a certain Republican presidential nominee should happen to win the election in November -- what an unusual year for our country's presidential race!

t, more good oddities, as usual, and certainly interesting to hear Kristofferson's comments about working with Zal Yanovsky. Jerry Yester singing into what looks like a hair dryer for special vocal effects on the Lovin' Spoonful song -- most bizarre! (By the way, for those who don't already know, Jerry's brother Jim was a member of the Association for many years, including their peak years, and Jerry himself was a member of the Association for a short period in the mid-70s.) Regarding the Rivingtons, they certainly relied on their brand of "formula" music, at least until they wore it out with several similar-sounding novelty tunes. That Walker Brothers song, "The Electrician", was certainly different than their earlier hit stuff, but still nowhere near as odd as the more recent soundtrack music from Scott Walker that Larry shared with us. Interesting how some pop/harmony artists eventually find a need to explore totally different musical territory. 

Cantina, thanks for your votes and for your insightful comments, particularly regarding the making of "He Gives Speeches" / "She's Going Bald". Certainly not a routine studio recording! Glad you enjoyed this week's taste of Zappa's music, while having nothing to do with Devo's bizarre musical/lyrical sensibility. You're certainly right about that Meet the Residents album -- awful stuff. I sampled through it but could never stay more than a few seconds in any section.

bonnie, insightful comments about the songs, especially regarding "She's Going Bald". I never could see any merit to this song on Smiley Smile and, as you say, Mike's lyrics are downright awful -- his idea of being "hip" here falls with a thud! Sorry that Zappa did nothing for you, and for a number of others here -- he's definitely an acquired taste, but with a relatively small but very loyal following over the years. Lady Gaga has certainly had plenty of odd, or even bizarre, moments and attire, especially in her earlier years. I think her "You and I" is one of her better songs, and her attire in this live version seems rather toned down compared to some of her other outfits in the past (e.g., the raw meat outfit she wore to the Grammys (?) one year.)

Al, some more good "out there" adds to this week's playlist. The Cure certainly pushed the musical boundaries in their time, as did the Nine Inch Nails later on. Both may have seemed a bit odd or edgy at the time, but they both expanded the boundaries of rock music, each in their own way. With the subject matter of the lyrics, it's surprising that Napoleon XIV was able to turn his sick "mental illness" novelty song into a radio hit in the mid-60s. Fortunate for you that you were able to attend Woodstock '94...if only you could have attended the original Woodstock from 1969 too! Or did you?

Cindy, interesting comment about Devo's "Whip It". As odd and potentially offensive as the song was, it is interesting that the song still resonates with a number of listeners all these years later. To many who were there in the 80s, perhaps it's just another "golden oldie" from that era.

paul, as always, thanks for your insightful and entertaining comments! Thanks also to you and t for providing further history on Jimmy Carl Black after he left the Mothers -- I lost track of him after his Zappa years and never pursued his whereabouts further after that, since Zappa had a revolving cast of bandmates over the years anyway. Good luck finding a copy of Zappa's bizarre and zany musical film, 200 Motels. I've literally looked for it for years and it was never re-released on DVD, at least here in the US. Not sure if that was a restriction by Zappa's late widow, Gail, some other legal/copyright hang-up, or simply perceived limited marketability. At any rate, I did recently see that it is now available on Amazon in the US as a limited edition collection, released in 2015. Thanks also for filling us in on more of the British TV background associated with the Monkees' song "Randy Scouse Git", and the TV show there that became the genesis for the widely popular "All in the Family" sitcom here in the US. Thanks also for your comments elsewhere about your recent attendance at a Brian Wilson Pet Sounds concert in California (Hollywood Bowl, wasn't it?).

I'll follow up shortly with my own votes and perhaps a few more WOSB songs, as we approach the finish line of this week's battle. I'll post a final tally of this week's results some time on Monday morning, US time.  
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My own votes this week:

Gold -- "Lonesome Cowboy Burt", Zappa/Mothers. I'll readily admit I've been a major Zappa fan ever since his first album, Freak Out, back in the mid-60s, (thanks to one of my life-long friends who got me started on his music early on) and I own nearly all the original LPs and/or CDs he released during his lifetime. I also saw Zappa in concert several times back in the 70s and early 80s. This song, with its satiric country-flavored music, vocals, and lyrics is a real one-off in the Zappa canon, and I've always found it musically amusing and catchy. Perhaps I'm not so put off by the lyrics, since Zappa had numerous songs that satirized various groups or stereotypes, for example, this rare Zappa radio hit, also featuring his older daughter, Moon Unit:


Silver -- "Randy Scouse Git", Monkees. When the Monkees first emerged, they seemed like a manufactured teeny bop "boy band", but over time their growing string of hits and other interesting songs drew me to them as a fun pop group. Back in the day, and still to this day, this song grabs me because of its uniqueness, and because it flies in the face of their shiny pop hits from those early years. Having this song in this week's battle also stimulated me to go back and re-listen to their first five albums back-to-back to reacquaint myself with more of their old lesser-known songs. From all counts, their recently released album of new music, Good Times, is supposed to be very good. Here's the first single from the album, "She Makes Me Laugh" (written by Rivers Cuomo of Weezer):


Bronze -- "Whip It", Devo. Catchy in its own bizarre way, but really a song and group that never did much for me, other than as a musical oddity. Lyrically pungent.

Tin -- "She's Going Bald", Beach Boys. I agree that the original version, "He Gives Speeches", was not musically deserving of what eventually became the issued version of SMiLE by Brian, and this reworked song is inferior to the original. Some nice vocals and harmonies, but the trippy (just for you, Cantina!) "hip" lyrical content by Mike and the dopey sound distortions did nothing for me. Overall, I like the Smiley Smile album well enough, but this song is clearly the bottom of the barrel on that album, at least to me. A bizarre musical and lyrical experiment that failed, in my opinion. 


Some more musical oddities:

I added this strange example to a weekly battle earlier this year. Cantina, I assert that this album is every bit as unlistenable as your Meet the Residents example this week:


Randy Newman has created a lot of excellent music during his lifetime, but one of his early political commentary songs from 1972, is still among my favorites, and certainly oddly direct in its criticisms of hawkish US policies over the years. Here's a live version by Newman from back in 1972:


And, in connection with Al's Nine Inch Nails comment/example above, this NIN song seemed to be a real musical oddity for Johnny Cash to perform in his later years, but his soulful, world-weary interpretation, from his American IV: The Man Comes Around album from 2002, is masterful:



For anyone who has not yet voted, or who still cares to comment or add more songs, please do so soon. I'll wrap up and post the voting results on Monday morning, US time.



 




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ah, laurie anderson
- that 'o, superman' hit single here in uk somehow hit a chord (loop?)
and sold by the truckload to punters who would never listen to
steve reich / john cage / philip glass...
(much as few zappa listeners would ever explore varèse or webern,
or even doo-wop groups).
what's funniest is, it was released as a 7" played at 33 1/3rpm
and too often, on juke boxes,
including actually on the radio, played at 45rpm through ignorance.
('caroline, o o o...' anyone?) 

laurie anderson was guest director of this year's brighton festival.
performed a couple of amusing, revealing tales and music concert shows
and screened her dog movie.
she also played a small outdoor show for dogs in a local park
(entry only with a dog in tow),
ultra high notes, repeated violin swirls etc,
passages encouraging canine interaction (er, barking...).
funny, involving. witt. delightful.
 she's a not the greatest rock musician,
which she never set out to be, but a major performance artist 

laurie brought lou's guitar tech along who performed an installation piece
of a host of controlled feedback guitars in a small, dark church
over a period of days.
you could dip in and out, sit, walk about, meditate, dance,
sessions encouraging other players to jam long.
intense, loud, mesmeric, shifting pitches, patterns, phases...
put the whole.'metal machine music' into sharp musique concrète context.

better stop before the pseud squad bursts in.... 
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I'm trying to figure out what part of these "Whip It" lyrics are pungent and potentially offensive. Any guesses?

Crack that whip
Give the past a slip
Step on a crack
Break your momma's back

When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sets out too long
You must whip it
When something's goin' wrong
You must whip it

Now whip it
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It's not too late
To whip it
Whip it good

When a good time turns around
You must whip it
You will never live it down
Unless you whip it
No one gets away
Until they whip it

I say whip it
Whip it good
I say whip it
Whip it good

Crack that whip
Give the past a slip
Step on a crack
Break your momma's back

When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sets out too long
You must whip it
When something's goin' wrong
You must whip it

Now whip it
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It's not too late
To whip it
Into shape
Shape it up
Get straight
Go forward
Move ahead
Try to detect it
It's not too late
To whip it
Well, whip it good
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Well, the results are in and we had a very close race for this week's gold. "Whip It" stayed in first place most of the week, but it was edged out for the gold by "Randy Scouse Git" as a result of a strong showing by the Monkees among our last handful of voters. This week's other two contestants didn't fare so well, falling to distant third and very distant fourth place finishes.

Gold -- "Randy Scouse Git", Monkees, 66 points (8 gold, 8 silver, 5 bronze, 0 tin). While "Whip It" earned more golds, the Monkees were saved by not receiving any last place votes and a strong gold and silver vote totals. "Hey, hey, we're the Monkees" and we're #1 this week!

Silver -- "Whip It", Devo, 63 points (10 gold, 4 silver, 4 bronze, 3 tin). This bizarre song stole the show with 10 golds, but it fell fast after that, ending up in second place. I guess it would be fair to say that the Monkees "whipped it" this week, but perhaps didn't "whip it good", winning by a mere two points.

Bronze -- "She's Going Bald", Beach Boys, 46 points (1 gold, 7 silver, 8 bronze, 5 tin). Was our lowest gold winner with only one gold vote, but it fared well in the silver and bronze votes. Nevertheless, it came in a distant third. I suppose the song was only "a bunt, instead of a grand slam", just like the Smiley Smile album it came from, as compared to the SMiLE project it was derived from. Fortunately for all us Brian/Beach Boys fans, we finally did get to hear Brian's magnificent official version of SMiLE (Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE) in 2004 on CD and in concert, and a few years ago a definitive SMiLE Sessions box set from the Beach Boys, including "He Gives Speeches" (see Lisa's video clip of the SMiLE Sessions version farther up this past week's thread).   

Tin -- "Lonesome Cowboy Burt", Frank Zappa/Mothers, 35 points (2 gold, 2 silver, 4 bronze, 13 tin). Well, it's pretty obvious that poor old Burt came in "reekin' atcha", at least for most of you. Well, as a consolation prize, here's another fun ditty by Zappa/Mothers from their excellent double album Live at Roxy & Elsewhere, which has also recently been released as a concert DVD. The song begins with an entertaining 2-minute narrative, followed by the fun song itself:

   

One final musical oddity, at least in retrospect. Kenny Rogers, who became a country/pop legend over many years and is now in his late 70s and a member of the Country Music Hall of Fame, announced in late 2015 that he will be retiring after his final major tour, in order to spend more time with his family. For a guy who became such a country/crossover music legend in the 1970s and 80s, I find it fascinating and strange in retrospect that this was Kenny Rogers & The First Edition's first big hit in 1968 (reaching #5 on the US pop charts), which resurfaced many years later as a memorable song and scene in the now-classic film The Big Lebowski:



Thanks to all of you who cast your votes or added your own songs or comments related to this past week's battle or theme. After all the weirdness that we were exposed to this past week, perhaps we're all ready to cleanse our collective musical palates this week with our mid-year break, resuming again next week and hosted by Larry.
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Hmph!!!  Like I said Tom...They're all gold and they're all tin.  ['cept for the Monkees]  I can't believe that horror show from Smiley Smile beat Frank.  I'm tempted to add that at least you and I got it right this week Tom...but that wouldn't be 'sportsmanlike...so I won't.

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'ssswwwhhheeeeeppp!'
- offside, rule violation, penalty, wide, out of bounds, red card, no ball, 'owzat...!!!
lee marshall,
take yourself off the pitch,
straight past the bench,
don't stay around the showers,
no propping up the 19th hole,
no autographs.
hie thee hence to the wada dope testing facility,
located just behind the bicycle sheds.
for, verily, you are suspected of contravening
the rules of sportspersonlike behaviour.
the authorities shall consider your case
and decide whether your comments are such that
they overstep the degree of smugness allowed on this messageboard
and, thereby disqualify your entries retrospectively
from the year 1776,
thereby requiring recalculation of all botb results
since that time
(depositions maybe considered as to whether the ban,
quoting '49th parallel precedent')
be deemed to date from 1876).

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Really?!?!?  No autographs?

"That's harsh"...he said as he clearly bumped into referee Adsett and then nailed him squarely in the chops with a right elbow...before extracting a pen from somewhere deep inside his 'shorts'.

Now THIS is a battle.[crazy]
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