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Al Forsyth

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Right - it changes but I always have my soft-spot songs. [love] I really liked the recent I Can Hear Music/20-20 compilation as well.  
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It feels a little strange to look at what you think is a new thread and discover you posted something months ago.

I'd probably still say "Wouldn't It Be Nice", but I could have mentioned "In My Room" in addition to the others.


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It feels a little strange to look at what you think is a new thread and discover you posted something months ago.

I'd probably still say "Wouldn't It Be Nice", but I could have mentioned "In My Room" in addition to the others.




In My Room is close competition.
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I've become absolutely obsessed with "Surf's Up." I think that is probably my absolute favorite song at this time. But there are several others I absolutely love. "Til I Die" is also right up there, possibly as second favorite. Would list more, but don't want to bog down with listing every song I love!
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the problem with the '20/20' compilation, is that it is only offered as downloads, there is no 'CD', unlike the nice 'Sunshine tomorrow' Wild Honey set.

my question then is about the release "Beach Boys Today Sessions," which is available on Amazon CD, but without info.  Anyone bought it?  what's interesting or extra?  There's also a "Best of Studio Sessions 1962-1965'.   again no info, other than it's on CD.  would seem to double dip, knowing Capitol, is some/much of Today also on the '65' part of Studio Sessions?   and trivia question: how many recordings of '409' do you get?

other Amazon questions.  you can pre-order the Mueller report.  how do they know it's 640 pages?   also...didn't I get the Starr report on line for free?   Please get to the bottom of this for me, Larry! 

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Hi John B -- First, thank you for the opportunity to avoid doing other things this afternoon.

It's hard to know what's on those two Beach Boys CD's but they're clearly not part of Capitol's series of archival releases. Capitol included five songs from the Today! album on the Keep An Eye On Summer: Beach Boys Sessions 1964 release, but for 1965 they issued Party material and Live in Chicago 1965. Maybe they figured that was enough from 1965, despite the fact that Today! and Summer Days are two of the group's best albums. Then it was on to 1966 and 1967.

The Beach Boys Today Sessions you mention is an import, apparently from the Indies record label in the Czech Republic. Perhaps the folks at Indies realized they could legally release the 1965 material, since Capitol hadn't protected their rights to those sessions (which is the point of all these archival releases). Or maybe they paid Capitol for the rights.

The Best of Studio Sessions 1962-1965 appears to be a Japanese release. Someone in Japan is selling a copy on eBay for $80. They show a track list and say "you can purchase Japanese product with confidence".
https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Beach-Boys-The-Best-of-STUDIO-SESSIONS-1962-1965-Studio-Alternate-Mixes-CD-/253940704831

[Note: political commentary ahead]

As for the (redacted) Mueller report, I don't think any of the various publishers have a copy yet, so they are estimating how many pages they will publish. Other publishers show a different number of pages (I bet Amazon requires a number greater than zero, not "we don't know yet"). And they don't know yet how many pages will be blacked out.

Apparently, the president's various lawyers got to see a copy, since they say they will issue a rebuttal immediately. Or maybe they wrote a rebuttal without seeing the text they're rebutting. That would make sense, since it sounds equally odd to write a rebuttal to a document that totally exonerates their client. But up is down and down is up these days.

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thanks so much!  Nice to remember the authority of researched facts matters!
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"But up is down and down is up these days."

So true, and including the music but in my latest two spin classes - Good Vibrations has appeared and that is a circular, almost up and down motion. Only cool songs make spin.

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I want to say something in support of Brian's favorite song, but hopefully by putting it over here, it won't come off as unfairly antagonistic towards a poster over there, who must have stepped on a pop top, because she 'hasn't a clue'.  no offense.  there just may be a language mistranslation problem.

to me, "Be My Baby" is anything but a weak little girl who likes patriarchy song.  It's an outsider song.  It's a rebel song.  It's an immigrant assimilation by going outside of yourself song.  and it has one of the most subversive lines in any rock song ever, yes, Lou Reed's radio song about 'never once losing her head' is not as subversive:  "We'll make them turn their heads every place we go."  not just some places we go.  'EVERY place we go'.  Why do you suppose that was?   Did you know, biracial marriage was legalized in the U.S. in...1967?  

Just read "How to American" a great book by Jimmy O' Yang, with foreward by Mike Judge.  GREAT book.  On the cover, Jimmy holds a US flag in his left hand and a Budweiser in his right hand.  How to is in red.  America is in blue.  The dot for the I is in white.  There's a bald eagle on his shirt.  by his left Jordan is a football.  By his right elbow is a red bong with smoke coming out the top.  There are Cheetos on the carpet, next to a video games terminal.   Do you say, 'I hate this pic!  it is a tribute to slackers or ungrateful immigrants invading our borders'?    On the back, the last quote is from Jimmy's Dad.  It reads: "Jimmy is not funny."  In the pic on the back, he looks serious.  that's cause he is.  that's also why he's funny, and why he likes the rappers who pour sparkling wine on each other on boats.  Jimmy went outside himself.The rappers didn't accept their marching orders to feign whiteness.  and Phil Spector somehow had the courage to pursue Ronnie and have her sing lyrics to 'Be My Baby', a song she knew was really his love song to her.

Martin Scorcese chose 'Be My Baby' to start "Meanstreets."   This is a movie about relatively new Americans who still speak with accents from their home country. 

Phil's parents were not born in the U.S.  His dad was an iron worker from the Ukraine.  Phil's mom was an immigrant Jew as well, but she was fluent in several languages.  to pursue his mother, Phil's dad went outside of himself.  In German occupied Ukraine territories, there were 5 million Jewish deaths for a country of less than 30 million.  in 1944, the Soviet Union took sovereignty of Ukraine.  Coming to the U.S./Bronx, Phil's dad did not adapt so well.  Speaking with what appeared to be a Russian accent was not very popular in the U.S., increasingly not so.  Phil's dad committed suicide when Phil was 9.  'To Know Him is to Love Him' were the words on his dad's gravestone.  His mom moved the family to the same part of Western Los Angeles that Jimmy O. Yang's family moved him.  Jimmy O' Yang's mom worked in China for 10 years away from the rest of the family in the U.S. who were eating El Polo Loco, for money to help with the American dream.  They wanted to be all that they could be, by going outside themselves.  Like Americans do.

Biracial relationships were no big thing to Ronnie, because she was biracial, and both her parents were biracial.  Ronnie was the brave one.  Phil wanted to be braver.  Brian married out of ethnicity as well.  Brian is one of the bravest Americans you can find.  He was not satisfied with the way things normally go, or the box he was supposed to stay in.

 in 'Be My Baby' since it's really Phil speaking to Ronnie, it's the most humble and vulnerable Phil song in any autobiographical sense.  It was saying, 'together we stand, divided we fall.'  or 'I could rise with you or fall without you.'  so he did and so he did. 

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