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Lee Marshall

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Now that Brian [et al] has/have completed touring Pet Sounds in order to celebrate its 50th [and as it turned out...its 51st] anniversary.  I wonder how he pulled it all off.

Back in 1966...and then touring over the next several years...the Beach Boys really couldn't deliver the songs from THAT specific album, with any degree of authenticity, live.  Even when the Beach Boys augmented the touring band with some mighty fine players and became one of the TOP touring bands in the WORLD they couldn't really deliver the Pet Sounds sounds.

For decades I have suggested that one of the reasons why Brian didn't enjoy touring and performing live is because he didn't hear his creations being performed properly.  These days?  He's all in.

How did this all come together?  Who linked Brian up with Darian and Nick?  How did Probyn and Paul and Bob factor into the picture?  How did Taylor end up...up there?  Where would they be w/o Nelson?  And Mike?  [That's Mike D'Amico wise guy [wink] ]  Someone put this all together.  There's a story to be told...at least here and for the fans who follow.

Yes, way back when, Brian heard the Wondermints...with wonder.  But really...how?  Who?  What, why, where, when?  How did it come about that touring musicians were actually able to replicate the sounds of the Wrecking Crew LIVE on stage...not to mention the extremely difficult vocal parts...thus allowing Brian to finally tour his musical vision?

Do tell.  Inquiring minds need to know.  It began before the 2002 recording of Brian Wilson Presents Pet Sounds Live.  [see Live at the Roxy - 2,000 for example]  It continues with a new project in mind right up to and including today.

No wonder Al and Blondie came on board.  If you ever tour again and need a toe-tapper Brian...I can keep time.  [and I don't sweat much for an old guy.]
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I would love to hear about how the band "happened," besides the whole Wondermints thing. And what do you have in mind Lee when you say, WE "do" SMiLE?
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Excellent thought, Lee!  We have the other books and films...how Brian and the BBs moved up the charts during the 60's...how they dominated the world (briefly)...how they faded (but didn't, really), how the band nearly splintered in the 70s...the Landy years, etc.  Heck, now we even have "How They Became The Beach Boys."  So, Lee, you are spot on here.  We've read the articles (and book) that briefly mentioned the Wondermints/Chicago crew hook-ups - yet AN ENTIRE BOOK about this VERY IMPORTANT Brian Wilson revival needs to be written!

Lee - I love your posts here and elsewhere.  In my opinion, YOU are qualified to research and write this story.  Since you are in semi-retirement, I nominate YOU. And if you do run with this, remember me when you're signing copies. [wink]


p.s. - I first read your last line as "I don't swear much for an old guy", and was about to write BS!! [biggrin]

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p.s. - I first read your last line as "I don't swear much for an old guy", and was about to write BS!! [biggrin]


[rofl] Up yers wise guy.[wink]

I'd love to write that narrative...but I have 0 access.  A book of that ilk needs to include the whole INSIDE story...not a fact finding mission followed by a resulting opinion or take on the musical odyssey.  It would also require honesty from all concerned...and I'm not sure that all of the original players are capable of delivering on anything approaching anywhere near THAT.

I mean really!!!  Help to put together a factual book on 'the boys' inabilities while really focussing the story on Brian and his here and now compatriots?  That would require cooperation from a horse's ass of a different colour.  For sure the Brian Wilson story certainly DID NOT end with the recording of the first solo album or when Melinda assisted in liberating his soul from hell's bulls and from el diablo himself.

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Oh..and GGH..."We" meaning Brian, with assistance from Darian, thinking that they ["We"]...and the entire new crew...could actually pull the impossible out of a big bass drum...or from a high-hat at the very least.
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I could be wrong, but I think the story of how Brian put his band together is told (albeit in a truncated form) in the "Brian Wilson On Tour" DVD 
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It's a great idea Lee but who knows which brave person could take it on. It does remind me just a bit of California Myth though. I believe that David Leaf originally wanted to call it 'Brian Wilson and the California Myth' but the greater fame of The Beach Boys decided the issue. That title fits though in a way that IMO his original title didn't. The California Myth was very much the formula with which we are told Mike wanted not to interfere. Brian Wilson is more of a California Legend (though I know the title wasn't meant to refer specifically to Brian but to something which he helped to create and which came to define and to some extent, perhaps, limit him).
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I think Jon Stebbins would be the guy to put this all together in an entertaining and informative literary package.  I believe that he has the insider track[s] available to him in order to cover all of the terrain.  Yes?  No?  AND...not only is he a writer...including 4 books already in the can/on the shelves featuring our heroes [and villain]...but he's also a valid musician.  The only music I can play comes on records and c.d.s.  My abilities on the 88's, the cello and drums remain specifically amateuristic at best.
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It's a genius idea!!!!! This has to happen!!!
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[rofl] Up yers wise guy.[wink]

I'd love to write that narrative...but I have 0 access.  A book of that ilk needs to include the whole INSIDE story...not a fact finding mission followed by a resulting opinion or take on the musical odyssey.  It would also require honesty from all concerned...and I'm not sure that all of the original players are capable of delivering on anything approaching anywhere near THAT.

I mean really!!!  Help to put together a factual book on 'the boys' inabilities while really focussing the story on Brian and his here and now compatriots?  That would require cooperation from a horse's ass of a different colour.  For sure the Brian Wilson story certainly DID NOT end with the recording of the first solo album or when Melinda assisted in liberating his soul from hell's bulls and from el diablo himself.

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Well, if this book gets written (and the period you're discussing deserves a book, not part of a DVD), you should get some type of credit, Lee - if only a 'finders fee' - as I was really hoping to ride your coattails into the inner circle, ha![rofl]

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   In the 60's I believe The Beach Boys only performed the famous three from Pet Sounds live.  Those obviously being "Wouldn't It Be Nice", "God Only Knows", and "Sloop John B".   And even for those they had to work up a special live arrangement since the recording couldn't be duplicated on stage.  And in the 70s they were able to perform a few more Pet Sounds deep cuts but again with special arrangements.

     Could it be a similar situation to The Beatles, where a lot of Brian's most complex music was simply close to impossible to replicate on stage at the time?
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Yes...not only could it be...it was, in fact, impossible without MAJOR expense to replicate those new musical frontiers on stage.  Even now...it costs Brian a pretty penny to do it.  But he does it.  And he does it/they do it AMAZINGLY well.

We're pretty lucky wouldn't ya say Jeremy? [cool]
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I remember being so pleasantly surprised when, in high school, I heard the band play "You Still Believe in Me" and "Caroline No" at an early '70s performance at The Auditorium Theater in Chicago. This was when Al, I recall, did "Still Believe..." and Carl was covering Brian's falsetto, including on Caroline and (with a bit of difficulty) Don't Worry Baby. The set list for this performance was very similar to the performances that performed the basis for The Beach Boys in Concert. The Band was "on its way back" at that point. That was such a great concert. Ken Burns' wonderful PBS Special puts that time frame (and, indirectly, the band's transformation) in such terrific perspective.
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Lee that's a awesome idea, this book should absolutely happen! (Mr. Admin, are you reading this thread by any chance... )
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