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Daisuke Takeuchi

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     I made a three-hour bus ride to Kobe to see L&M.  It is being shown at an art house kind of theater.  Seeing the movie makes me think that it is amazing Brian, after all that he had gone through, did not turn into a cynical person or a people hater.  We all know that Brian is pure and innocent, so the most interesting character to watch was Eugene Landy; I was not sure if Landy was there to help Brian or slowly killing him.  The film made it look like the latter was the case.  Landy being a control freak, it was somewhat hard for me to believe that he would let the legal documents like Brian's will written for him to slip away into the hands of Gloria, and then to Melinda, which led to Landy court ordered out of Brian's life.
     Melinda is an angel!  I wish someone like her would come along and save my life.  But then, I am just a Japanese guy, not a Beach Boy.  Lonely, Scared, Frightened are the words Brian scribbled on a paper on their first meeting.  If I did that to a woman, she would think I am a freak. 
     I wonder what the family of Landy would think of the movie.  What about his son, or Alexander Morgan?
     Oh, and it was a pleasure to find that Brian and Melinda went to see the Moody Blues on their first date.  Nights in White Satin was playing. 
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JCM

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Hi Daisuke, that's what I call dedication! Not sure I would have been able to drive or ride three hours to see the film. It sounds like you enjoyed it though.

Some of your thoughts about Landy and the legal documents are actually addressed in this, linked below, a 1991 interview with Brian and Dr. Landy (among others). This segment is from an American program called Primetime Live. The interviews were conducted by Diane Sawyer and it's clear through the bulk of the segment that she is simply exasperated at the situation Brian is in. I would liken it to almost something like Stockholm Syndrome. 

In the beginning, especially in the mid 1970s I think Dr. Landy probably did get Brian out of bed and probably save him from the life of excess. But, once he was reintroduced to Brian's life in the 1980s, I assume because the family was desperate at that point (it worked before!); Landy took total control and 'seized the opportunity', if you will. At the very end of this segment, Diane Sawyer mentions a source that had seen the draft revised will that is referenced in the film that made Eugene Landy the main beneficiary should Brian pass away. In many true crime programs I've seen that's almost a 'smoking gun', if you will. [smile]

Primtime Live 1991 Segment

Also, you mentioned Landy's son, what does he think of all of this? Well, he actually was interviewed by the Daily Mail, a UK paper in June just before the film opened in the U.S. As you can probably imagine, he is very defensive about the subject and has a dissenting point of view. Article linked below. To the best of my knowledge, Landy’s girlfriend has never spoken publicly about the topic.

Daily Mail UK Evan Landy Interview
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Debbie KL

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Evan Landy has more at stake than just being his "father's son."  He was an employee and heavily involved in what was being done to Brian. Anyone reading this interview should beware! 

As far as saving Brian's life...I will repeat, Landy was given unlimited funds, so it wasn't that hard to create an environment where Brian would lose weight (and not long prior to those days I was dumbfounded at how quickly Brian could lose weight when he set his mind to it) and Landy used meds that he couldn't legally prescribe himself to control Brian's behavior (used a doctor who never saw Brian to prescribe them).  

I'm sorry, but that's no "life saver."  It's someone exploiting a situation.  Ask what he was making as a fee per year sometime in addition to bleeding funds off Brian's name and talents by adding his name or including himself in projects. 

As far as his being successful before in his treatment, why did they fire him then?  It can't have been just the money.  Brian was worth a lot of $$$ to those in charge then.

Sorry, you know when Landy is brought up, I take no prisoners, guys.  He nearly killed Brian, (and a few other patients died under his care), so I'm not exactly forgiving toward this creep.
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Daisuke Takeuchi

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JCM,
Thank you for the links.  Watching the movie was very interesting that Melinda in fact outwitted a doctor of psychology; Melinda is smarter than Dr. Landy.  I also want to point out that from other sources as well as the Diane Sawyer video you provided all had Brian saying he wanted to be with Dr. Landy while others were against him, and the movie did not show that dilemma.  The movie made it look like Brian wanted Landy out of his life from the very beginning.  From what I understand, Brian went through a series of doctors who kind of just gave him medicines and did not help before they finally got to Dr. Landy  I also noticed that Brian has a habit speaking from the corner of his mouth, and neither Paul Dano or John Cusack did not portray that.  Stockholm Syndrome may be the right word, and also people in Japan call it American Disease; excess of everything, drugs, mental illness, lawyers, shrinks.  Reading Evan Landy's article is very interesting.  I was somewhat shocked to read that Van Dyke Parks gave Brian heroin. 
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Debbie KL

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Brian was heavily medicated by Landy and under his control, so of course he publicly said he wanted to be with him.  Obviously, he told Melinda otherwise, and she observed the abuse with the meds, etc.  It was enough to get Landy's license revoked, so it was bad.

Brian had a doctor he liked very much, but the man died in a terrible accident in Hawaii.  After that, other doctors were tried, but without great result.  The shame is UCLA was near his home and had the right doctors to diagnose Brian and treat him.  This is demonstrated by the fact that his health improved remarkably once he had their proper diagnosis and meds.  We can thank Melinda for getting this done, as well.

I wouldn't base anything on what Evan Landy says in that article.  He was part of the Landy program far beyond being the son.  He has real reasons to want a different story told, true or not.
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TheRealSlimK

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I agree with Debbie.  He momentarily 'saved' Brian, as many others could have done and probably much better--yes, even the weight reduction and no drugs part.

For a son, he's admitting a lot though: 'my dad was not a medical doctor and likely misdiagnosed Brian, and overmedicated him.  (already, very serious malpractice foundation). 
and my dad, a psychologist, should not have been partners in business with his vulnerable patient. (now, we are in criminal territory).

the suggestion of Brian's culpability is stupid.  That IS covered in the film--Brian's credible worry that (with entire group and family approval, remember) if he did not submit to Landy's demands, he could be blamed and committed.

By the way, it is more than the winners telling the story.  You need to objectively consider why so many told this story--in 1st hand, the David Felton Rolling Stone article for example, the people who visited Brian who would appear to be lucid and normal, but then some goon would say 'time for your medications, Brian! and a frightening number of large pills would be presented for him to swallow,' and then he would reasonably decompensate into sedation.  This sorry--was chronic behavior by Landy that was not done with Brian's best interests in mind, but much more likely, for purposes of secondary gain.  No kid wants to admit such ghastly behavior by their dad and especially when they were there and could have maybe spoken up themselves if they were better men than their dad's example.     
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Debbie KL

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Thanks RSK.  While I was never more than a fly on the wall during the Landy period II, people I loved and trusted were doing their best to get Brian out of there, for very, very good reason for a very long time.  Melinda was a fighter doing her best for Brian, and it was a brutal fight, but she loved him, plain and simple.  

Psychologists aren't frivolously disbarred by the State of California, so that alone should let us know that Landy's ethics were lacking - or non-existent.
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