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Larry Franz

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There was a brief thread in the Beach Boys sub-forum three weeks ago that linked to the latest Beach Boys sessions releases. It was easy to miss (I sure did). 

On Dec. 7th, Capitol released:

"Wake the World: The Friends Sessions" (32 tracks, including songs that didn't make the album)

"I Can Hear Music: The 20/20 Sessions" (40 tracks, including songs that didn't make the album)

Deb#1 linked to the albums on YouTube:

Friends sessions
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_leglqA8yPOmWhd1wkPynUpERF78Mpfof8

20/20 sessions
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mHwXKak8vDw4iib1F_sz-uvAfzPvDCp5g

I'm listening to the Friends session. It's terrific.


Capitol also released "The Beach Boys On Tour: 1968". It includes 114 tracks, yes 114.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l41a4qTl5irSeKPOCE8F5sixjXo8_7-Pg


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Amazon shows availability on mp3 only. Will these be out on CD or am I hopelessly lost in the past. 
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I believe you, like me, are hopelessly lost in the past. I was surprised the car we bought a year ago didn't have a CD player. To play an album in the car, I now put it on a thumb drive. 



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I got the Friends and 20/20 Sessions and burned to disc and put them under the tree. A wonderful Christmas present. I love both. Hearing a new (to me) Dennis demo, the longest version of Can't Wait Too Long were alone worth it but there's so much more. There's incomplete material but that gives it a sort of fly on the wall feeling - you get the idea of what it was like at the time. It also makes it rather dreamlike. A succession of sometimes fleeting and sometimes profound ideas. Can't recommend highly enough.

I haven't got the live stuff though but it did give me a laugh to see on the track listing 'Their Hearts Were Full of Springs'! Gives the song a whole new image!
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Disagree with the premise that being reactionary against modernity conflates with dissent against lack of choice due to trendy mass conformity.  Unfortunately, advertising loves limited choices and sheep-like behavior: makes their job oh so much easier without allowing for differences in personality and personal preference. 

I faced this exact issue myself over the holidays, as 'the SpongeBob Christmas Album' (yes, that's what it's called) can still be only 'streamed' and cannot be bought on CD.  You can buy the whole Christmas episode on DVD...for now, but no CD or LP.   too bad, since it's really great and the songs are co-written by Andy Paley.  Not just the classic, "Don't be a Jerk, It's Christmas," but all the songs are great, including the rockabilly song 'Wet, wet Christmas' where, the singer hiccups when he gets to holly (of course he does), and dig that Brian Wilson/Pet-Sounds/Smilish song 'Snow Flakes'.   Finally, the personal holiday message from SpongeBob trips over the word "happen."  no explanation.  that's class.   Why no CD?   Fascists don't like to share.  One day, maybe Jagamart Music Imports or some similar bootlegger will make a CD for me, they will tack on the (stand alone from another season) song, "This Christmas Feels Like the Very First Christmas to Me" and I will purchase it...probably for about 18$.  If available, I would buy it now.  Ef MP3.    

I write from ground zero (Palo Alto), and the sad truth is that Steve Jobs would have liked to sell the only mobile phone.  Zuckerberg would like to make money being the only social media.  The president would like a wall.  Amazon wants you to buy everything from them.   When the internet started, it was a good thing, because it offered a wider status-quo.  Over time, it reversed, so now, the status-quo has shrunk like crazy, thanks to the internet.  But, you don't have to do everything they say.

Over the holidays, I played LP's--no, they are still there and not going away, as well as cassettes, DVD's, CD's, and even a 45 ('Father Christmas' by the Kinks). 

I do not own a cellphone.  I have never texted and never tweeted.  I've never been on FACEBOOK, MySpace, or Instagram, and I have never used an IPOD or MP3.  It's not a law that you must worship or even use these things.  I don't, and still have a happy life.

If I were to buy a new car, and they did not offer a CD player in it, I would either buy another kind of car, or pay to have a CD player put into the car.  This is not being reactionary, or 'stuck in the past.'  This is being an individual who thinks for oneself. 

Since very obviously, people like me are the kind of Beach Boys fans who buy everything, even "new" releases with very little "new" stuff, I think Capitol has decided that these new releases are not essential purchases for people like me--that they are somewhat inferior by inference, to the 'Sunshine Tomorrow/Wild Honey' release.  Under these circumstances, I agree with them.   

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Disagree with the premise that being reactionary against modernity conflates with dissent against lack of choice due to trendy mass conformity.  ...
And this was just your first sentence, John.  Might be tough to hold an audience with that opening line.  Someone like me may just scroll through quickly thereafter - until I get to 'SpongeBob'.   Then I'm done.

John B - 'The Last Angry Man.' [wink]

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I am a mere gnat v. a battleship, asking for inclusion, that's all, Bugs. Can'ttexters who turn red when they encounter full sentences, give me that?  Calling me an angry man is your imagination running wild.  I'm relatively happy.  Ask my 3 kids, who yells more, me or their Mom in tech.  they'll all say her... Jobs, I hear: big big yeller. 
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John B -- I didn't realize the new Honda lacked a CD player until the salesman was showing me the very one we'd bought. We still would have bought the car if we'd known. There might not be anywhere good to install a CD player. Meanwhile I've got 100 albums on a thumb drive the car is designed to handle and there's space for many more.

Also, I'm not sure the advertising industry and associated businesses love limited choice. Consider how many options you have to wade through on most new cars, and how many kinds of pillows or potato chips you have to choose from when you go shopping.

For what it's worth, Happy New Year everyone!





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I don't mind being disagreed with.  but Larry: how could there be a 'good place' in a Honda (like I drive, too, coincidentally...) for a CD player for 50 years or so?, but now, with improved tech. advances, there's no place any more?   Of course, there's still a place.   My Honda has a CD, radio, and DVD for the backseat, too.  If I must trade, I'd kick out the DVD, which I never see and the kids don't use because they have their own personal devices.  You like the thumb things better than CD's, just say that. 
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I can't say I prefer the thumb drive, but it's a decent replacement. My biggest problem with the car (a Honda CR-V) is that some of the manual and digital controls are confusing. An online review or two mentioned this too.

After we got the car, I looked at what people said about the CD issue on the internet. I believe someone said there is no way to connect a CD player, i.e. no place for it on the car's electrical system.

The Beach Boys -- "Our New Home" (or car) (instruments only)
youtube.com/watch?v=bYuVZXEA7Yg


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You got me worried, Larry, always hate those fatalistic future predictions such as "you will HAVE to have a driverless car or no car"  or "you will have to go wireless or have no music!".    ...why?   I'm only going to live another...40 years or so.   "Have to"?? 

 so I did a search, and luckily, found a Youtube video on how to install a CD player into a 2018 Honda CRV.  They use the middle section, behind the cup holders--the part that closes with a latch, and still does.  The display is shared by the front section already there, believe it or not.  It can be done.

I know it does not matter so much to you, but maybe there are others. I read a lot of angry complaints by people over 55 in this search, and one guy finally explained that it had nothing to do with tech., it was just a financial incentive by the car companies to make you buy a service and wireless carrier for your music, and those companies reward the dealers (with lack of choice for the consumer).  I still say that's what it is.  don't count the total number of products, count the (dwindling) commercials and companies who buy adds.   Without ...the cellphone companies and cable and satellites, maybe TV would already be gone. 

But, of course, happy 2019, everyone! 
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You Youtubed that shit?

Not so innocent little fingertips, John B.  [comp]





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I have spent way too much on changing technologies over the past 60 years, first a vast collection of vinyl followed by the latest and greatest cassette. CD's cost me the most with well over 1,000 purchased. At 73, I am done. I love my CD collection and the Pioneer receiver and player. I will keep my 12 year old car because it has a 6-CD changer. By the way, I have just 12 vinyl records, 3 45's, and 7 cassettes left. Yes, they are all Beach Boys.

Call me an old fossil, and I will embrace it. 
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<snip>Over the holidays, I played LP's--no, they are still there and not going away, as well as cassettes, DVD's, CD's, and even a 45 ('Father Christmas' by the Kinks).  <snip>

John B, I agree with everything you say in your post.  I'm only 70, but you can still call me an old fart, if you like.

And, yeah, let's hear it for the Kinks, God save them!

DC

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