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Akosito

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i was the one in the family who always made sure we still had a turntable. Mine is the same family home stereo from back the 70's. Its probably nothing to write home about but i love it. I was stored for some time, the hi fi while the turntable was on living room connected to a more modern sony equipment. One day i said enough and got the whole pack into my room. I took it to repair shop and after a while of misuse it works perfectly and it didn't need repair. There are still needles being made for it and i desperately need to get one to listen to my precious Brian records. they are about 15 bucks each needle. mine's are worn out
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Well, I don't know if you guys did, but I actually played NPP this morning on the way to work, and as 'nice' as some parts of it are, it ain't 'Pet Sounds.'  I don't skip tracks on 'Pet Sounds', as I do now with this one.  First skip: 'Runaway Dancer'.  I know, we've all gotten past the bouncy computerized genre of it...but dang if the sax now sounds to me like 'Baker Street' meets 'Year of the Cat.'  Not exactly 'Pet Sounds' sax.   Next, 'Whatever Happened.'  I try to love it like I used to before I started to listen to the words, but I can't.  I know they're coming in all their random banal 'glory.'  The next one, well I like Zoey and from a distance 'On the Island' sounds somewhat like 'Friends'.   But again, the lyrics remind you that they are not saying anything of consequence.  

'Half Moon Bay'.  I like to play this one through.

'Our Special Love' with Peter Mediocre.  When he kicks in with the lead vocal, could be anyone.  Toto?  Michael McDonald?  skip.

'The Right Time'.  Yea!  One of my favorites on the record.!  I play it through.  The words aren't embarrassing. 

'Guess You Had to be There'.   a 20 something girl remembers things from her past life, but in a kind of grandpa Simpson's nostalgic manner.  Skip.

'Tell Me Why'.  Nice music, inept sing/song words  Skip.

'Sail Away' .  Yea!  another of my favorites.  I play it through.   but...why did it have to have that keyboard play the line from 'Sloop John B'?  To remind us...as if with an asterisk that this song is good, but it's not THAT good...

'One Kind of Love'.   okay.  a bit too much cliché's lyrically, about love being unconditional.  So, dogs are better suited for love than people... Everyone will hate me but the melody sort of reminds me of 'Crocodile Rock'.  A great Brian Wilson song generally reminds you of no other song.  Yet, yes, sometimes I play this song through, sometimes I skip.  Compare to 'Pet Sounds' though, you exaggerators: which PS songs do you skip??

'Sat Night'.  I try.  I really do.  Nice kid.  Sang great at the Venetian.  But what a mediocre song. Skip.

The Last Song.   I used to like it.  Now, I skip it.  Why?  Because I know it's going to crash into that Hallmark Line about 'there's never enough time for the ones that you love.'  

Extra songs:  'Don't Worry'.  I can get by the disco beat, but the words not only remind again of something Better Brian did before, they are ...less than smart.  I think they might be this LP's worst ones, and that's saying something.  But if you disagree with me, go ahead, 'think for yourself, but love everyone' (even Isis and child molesters).  So, I skip this one at the beginning.

'Somewhere Quiet'.   Another asterisk song.  The words just don't stand up.  I mean, why lead up to 'that's why I love you so' as the last words?   Why have that line about your inside self doesn't ask questions because you're simply the truth.  please.  why embarrass the original melody?  So, I skip it.

'I'm Feeling Sad'.  This is really one of my favorites.  But.  why does it have to crash into the better song 'Kiss Me Baby"???    

In summary: 

I really like Brian's melodies, harmonies, and singing on this LP, but I can't play it all the way through like I can 'Pet Sounds' or 'Gerwshin' or 'Presents Smile' or 'That Lucky Old Sun'. 




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Wow - I guess when I hear Brian's music, I've never been so concerned with the lyrics unless they're brilliant enough to get my attention.  If they're pleasant enough, I'm fine.  If they aren't so great, I ignore them - I'm hearing stunning music.

I can't imagine skipping any of those songs you've mentioned.  Even if you don't like Kasey's take on Brian's youthful super-stardom lyrically, the way he worked her stacked lead vocal is fabulous.

"On the Island" - an incredibly complex composition and arrangement with necessarily simple lyrics - it's about laying back on a tropical island in the midst of the intoxicating music, with Zooey's note-perfect Astrud vocal.  It works for me on all levels.

"Tell My Why" - you really have a problem with this one?  I don't have any issues with this song, but that's up to you.  Are you certain you weren't just cranky last time you listened?  I've had those moments and realized that it was just me in a bad mood.

I'd love a few of these songs with the Pet Sounds tour, particularly for the fans outside the US who didn't get to hear them last year.  They were glorious live.  Nothing less than that.


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Let's review. Seven songs are skipped and "Whatever Happened" and "Guess You Had To Be There" are not to your liking, right? My question would be that if you don't care for WH, how can you possibly enjoy Pet Sounds? WH is right smack dab out of the PS mold and sounds like it should have been on it. Something doesn't add up here.
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BtG - yes - I missed WH? in my list.  I'm confused by all of this, other than when I've been in such a bitchy mood that I didn't want to hear anything that brought me joy.  That's happened.

Maybe the poster can enlighten us.
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Oh dear. I have such a different take on this album than JohnB - a timely reminder that so much is subjective. I love and have loved since first hearing it, Our Special Love. Saturday Night... there's this bit - oh scrap that, I've mentioned it so many times before, but it is QUINTESSENTIAL Brian Wilson.

I love No Pier Pressure. It isn't Pet Sounds - in fact, it deserves to be judged on its own merits, not hanging on to the coat tails of a much earlier and successful work.
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It's the problem with all Brian's work post 1966. Nothing he does is evaluated on its own merits.
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Great point and well taken and so true.
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Hi all,

I appreciate NPP very much.  Each song is unique.  I like The Right Time.  Sail Away is great.  I like the country sound of Guess You Have To Be There.  On The Island is a wonderful duet with Brian and Zooey.  Our Special Love is great.  Saturday Night is fantastic.  Each song is a gift.  I like the songs with a dance beat.  I Feel Sad is great.  Brian blows me away with his talent!!!  

Happy Listening!!! 
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Must agree with Brian's the Greatest - a really great point thorgil and something to consider.

Mary's comments are really insightful too. Mary gets the variety of the album. It's like being offered a box of exquisite chocolates, each with a different flavour. (But the album  won't make you fat!)
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guitarfool2002

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This was what I wrote in my piece on NPP, about "One Kind Of Love", and I think it holds true for so much of Brian's solo music. Sometimes the music we get from Brian is so well done, some of the unique aspects of it would be what other artists chase after for many years trying to match, but an artist like Brian just does it and has been doing it for over 50 years. Those magic moments within a track that jump out, maybe fans became so used to these elements that we just expect it...and Brian delivers.


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14. One Kind Of Love
The unexpected and sometimes jarring chord changes and transitions underneath a smooth melody are both a highlight of this track and a hallmark of Brian's music in general. It's a trait which in lesser hands can make a song sound jumbled and disjointed, but to hear the product of skilled songcraft in the hands of a master craftsman, listen to some of the chord resolutions in this one. They shouldn't work, on paper, but they do work with that melody. Unique songwriting and craftsmanship.

It's almost comical that the wordless vocal and bass bridge at this point seems commonplace, like we know we're going to hear something like this where Brian is involved. Or, horrors, we may even expect to hear passages like this. Maybe we're spoiled, in a way, by hearing things like this all-too-brief musical interlude so often through the years. Because I almost expected it.

Then I realized, how many artists try to do that very same musical move, how many of them try to capture that effortless sound and flow of this music, and either overdo it by trying too hard, or simply turn it into parody rather than making it an essential element to construct the song?

I think we are spoiled. Because no one else really pulls off this kind of interlude as effortlessly as Brian.

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I'm in awe of the song 'Tell Me Why' - I wasn't blown away by it when I first heard it, but it has grown on me considerably since.

Deep in the mix like halfway through the song (just before the second chorus I think) there is a very low brass instrument deep in the mix that really packs a punch. Moments like that are scattered all over the album, classic Brian.

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