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Gretchen

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Forgive if this has been discussed extensively already.
I am really feeling this album just now.
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I have to be honest: I enjoy the album, but I feel it had an unfair setup of expectations...not in a bad way, but just the sheer power of the "sneak peak" that we got set up a sound and an expectation that the album's production didn't have, and for me there wasn't enough of the vibe from the preview in the songs that were released.

That sneak peak was Brian and Van Dyke at the piano, singing Orange Crate Art in the Don Was documentary. One of the coolest performances I've seen, just basic and raw, but with both the chords, feel, and melodic quirkiness set to those brilliantly obscure lyrics that reminded me of the first Wilson-Parks collaboration. And having them both at the piano playing it, I wanted more of that.

Really, really cool album, don't get me wrong, but it's hard to beat the expectation set up by that film performance. It felt like coming home to your favorite chair, wearing your favorite sweater, and having a hot drink on a cold night hearing those two reunite and play OCA like that.

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Yeah, I can see what you mean. As a latecomer to all of it, I am experiencing the pieces out of order. I am familiar with that movie, but it doesn't affect my expectations that same way.

This is so true about "...your favorite chair, wearing your favorite sweater, and having a hot drink on a cold night," almost my exact state currently, except it's a cold morning, the first visible snow of the year for us falling, etc. and I'm listening and it's a nice vibe...
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Same here - cold and some snow on the way around here.

Maybe Don Was set it up this way, maybe it was coincidence: But I got the feeling the first time I saw Brian and Van Dyke playing in that Don Was film before hearing the released OCA album that it was probably similar to all those fans who watched Brian perform Surf's Up alone on TV in April 1967. Like they were hearing something really special, a sneak peak of a much more involved work that was packed with raw emotion and feel and potential, only in their case they had to wait a few years before hearing something resembling a finished release!

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Orange Crate Art?  I  L O V E  it.  It put Brian and Van Dyke together again.  A step on the road to finding a finished 'product' called BWPS.  LOADS of terrific songs on THIS particular lp.  Obviously helped and influenced hugely by Brian.  The arrangements?  Super cool.

I'd love to see them do a 3rd album together.  [Smile and BWPS counting as one really]
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I am new to the album so there are some tracks that grabbed me right away and some that will be growers...it was best for me listening closely on headphones and really paying attention because there's a lot of production stuff. I like Orange Crate Art and Summer in Monterey best. Yes... "The arrangements?  Super cool." Agree.
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Gretchen

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And true wonderful that it was a step on the road to BWPS!
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Really liked it in my early twenties, listened to it a lot. Not so much lately - well, for a couple of years. This thread is a welcome reminder to put it on again soon. I remember not even having a favourite track - the whole thing is a joyous record.
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Okay, third time trying to post this. I REALLY enjoyed that album. I bought it for my young nieces at the time and they wanted to know why Ramona lost heart? I couldn't answer. When we were in Sonoma a few years ago I was overtaken by the song again. LOVE the song, the arrangement, the everything about it.

The rest of the album is enjoyable but the REAL standout, for me, was the Gershwin Lullaby. Did this lead to something later?

So getting past the Smile being brought back to life and put out in the two various forms and when Van Dyke was crying in London, what a touching moment, and then move ahead to the narratives that held That Lucky Old Sun together as a "work" I agree with everyone that it would be wonderful if the two would work together one more time.

Nice to have this discussion again. OCA is wonderful!




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Why Ramona lost heart? Just growing up, I guess...

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Guess so - she grew up, but kept her Orange Crate Art.
Love the cover of the album and the painting -credit on that, Gretchen?
The Van Dyke version. It flows so perfectly as a song.
Looking back at this - it was key for the two to realign.

Brian and Van Dyke together.

(You beat me to the response)
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I just whipped that up today when I was listening to the record...it's just a copy of the cover. No brilliance on my part, just meditation.

Thinking of VanDyke gets me thinking of Smile and that period and how Mike was demanding an explanation of the meaning of lyrics and all that and how ridiculous that sounds to us today (or, at least it seems like it should...) We wouldn't have bands like Wilco and Jeff Tweedy's lovely weird lyrics today if there was some standard that things had to make sense...

So thankful for these two (BW and VDP)

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oh duh http://ramonamurals.com
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I love the album! My favorite is "movies is magic"
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Van Dyke has a better voice than he led me to believe...but Brian did an AMAZING job on the album...still getting to know the songs, don't yet have an opinion on it...
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