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Deb#1

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It was the Beatles versus the Beach Boys controversy I remember back in the day in the US when the Fab Four hit. It seemed the guys liked the Beach Boys and the girls liked the Beatles. The Beatles wooed the girls with love songs. The Beach Boys tantalized the guys with the California mystique. Therein lies the tale. Supertramp was much much later.

Mike Love (the one we know) has supported environmental issues since early on. I wish he would pass that on when he sees his friend in the White House.

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Welcome home, Deb!  

Some hominess coming up but first, votes (and not much to say but welcome back).

GOLD - to Brian and the band and this album, to me, was a high water mark in the BDW solo career.  It hit on all cylinders for me.  Brian has some rock going on here.  Agree with Darren about a Marcella about it.  

Silver - I'll give to Supertramp BUT this could change on any given day.  I like the mouth harp and it's got a moderate groove to it.  

Bronze - to Jon Bonjovi and his band.  Respect, but I'm not a fan.

Tin - Ozzy.  Ozzy minus BS somehow is just out there.  

Home - sung live by Karla Bonoff and the incredible band.

Welcome to "our house" -

Paulo had his home...(get-away) - lookin' for a home

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Most houses are homes.

The Sons of the Pioneers -- "Home On the Range" (1947 and lyrics!)
youtube.com/watch?v=iXvIowAAKhc

Patsy Cline -- "Won't You Come Home, Bill Bailey?" (1963)
youtube.com/watch?v=M8bAd2bXkJw

The Rolling Stones -- "Please Go Home" from Between the Buttons (1967)
youtube.com/watch?v=akVW78_QD9U

Best Coast -- "Let's Go Home" from The Only Place (2012)
youtube.com/watch?v=hz8QsXtKuIU

Camera Obscura -- "Let Me Go Home" from Underachievers Please Try Harder (2003)

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Deb#1

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Al, thanks.  We are on the same wavelength with TLOS.  McCartney and RAM sure paint a rosy picture, don’t they? I’m not quite aiming for the heart of the country, but where I hope to be there is room for horses. Refreshing after DC.

Larry, I REALLY like Patsy Cline, but Canera Obscura was surprisingly fresh.  It reminds me of my college nights. 'Mama told me not to come.'

Many houses are homes, Larry, but Al’s “You're Always Welcome at Our House.” begs the question of what kind of home. LOL at first but then realized this is a kid’s show! Sesame Street! What? It’s certainly the opposite take from Karla Bonoff and the incredible band (is that their real name?).  Karla has me sitting by a nice fire in the crisp of the evening after picking apples for the pie which is cooling on the sill and giving the whole house an incredible aroma.

How about this home, Larry?

Maybe this is why Supertramp (or REO Speedwagon) took the long way home.


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Deb, There's always CSN and Y doing their own, actually Graham Nash's, "Our House" and I always liked John Denver's "Starwood In Aspen" which brings up a local Cape film that is now in the news here called Starboard Light which begs the question does a family make a home or does a home make a family? If you get the chance to look this up

Larry may have used this already with the Stones' "I'm Going Home" but home is that special place that we know and love. Home IS that happy place.

Karla Bonoff's band is incredible like any artist's is and now she only tours with Nina.

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anyone have comments on last night's debate?   Frankly I worry about this emphasis on the 'home' of middle of the country Joe being somehow better than the home of the 'coasts'.  I liked people speaking other languages and did not like the ones who cited as the greatest threat, the other (China)'.  Greatest threat, my eye!  (but that's just me).  Anyway, it's good to stick up for your 'home' but also, to see its flaws and need for improvements. 

Here's a guy who can do both.  Morrissey!

EVERY DAY IS LIKE SUNDAY

Trudging slowly over wet sand, back to the bench where your clothes were stolen
This is a coastal town, that they forgot to close down, Armageddon, come Armageddon come...

Everyday is like Sunday, Everyday is silent and grey

Hide on a promenade, etch a postcard
How I dearly wish I was not here
In the seaside town, that they forgot to bomb
Come, come nuclear bomb!

Everyday is like Sunday, Everyday is silent and grey
Trudging back over pebbles and sand
And a strange dust lands on your hands (and on your face), on your face, on your face...

Everyday is like Sunday
'win yourself a cheap tray'
Share some grease tea with me
Everyday is silent and grey


(could have done 'Suffer Little Children'--but how much can Manchester take? or 'There is a Light That never Goes Out').  or 'Barbarism Begins at Home'  but I like this one because of its timeliness:

MEXICO

In Mexico, I went for a walk, to inhale the tranquil cool, lover's air
But I could taste a trace of American
chemical waste,
and the small voice said, 'What can we do?'

In Mexico, I went for a walk, to inhale the tranquil, cool lover's air
But I could sense the hate
from the Lonestar state,
and a small voice said, 'What can we do?'  oh

It seems if you're rich and you're white, you think you're so right
I just don't see why this should be so
If you're rich and you're white, you think you're so right
I just don't see why this should be so

In Mexico, I lay on the grass and I
cried my heart out, for want of my love, oh
for want of my love, oh
for want of my love

It seems if you're rich and you're white, you think you're so right
I just don't see why this should be so

If you're rich and you're white, you think you're so right
I just don't see why this should be so

In Mexico, I lay on the grass, and I
cried my eyes out, for want of my love
for want of my love
for want of my love
for want of my love
for want of my love


 

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D.A.N

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very close

G Brian Wilson.  Taylor is great on this.
S Ozzy.  
B Supertramp
T Bon Jovi
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Larry Franz

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Homely?

Phillip Phillips -- "Home" (2013; he won one of those TV contests)
youtube.com/watch?v=OTg1n95--KE

The Cinematic Orchestra -- "To Build A Home" (2019)
youtube.com/watch?v=oUFJJNQGwhk

The Roches -- "Home Away From Home" (1995; also from Can We Go Home Now)
youtube.com/watch?v=ZtMnsmXX2T4

The Neighbourhood -- "Baby Came Home 2" (2015)
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Larry Franz

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Three pairs.

The Animals -- "Bring It On Home To Me" (paired with the Sam Cooke's original from earlier this week)
youtube.com/watch?v=8EoS7GDSu0U

Deb: Maybe the House of the Rising Sun was a home to some of the employees?


The Beach Boys

"Back Home" -- the superior, unreleased 1963 version
youtube.com/watch?v=yMTmJYRdC-U

"Back Home" -- the much different, unreleased 1970 version
youtube.com/watch?v=eE4fkh-Feqg

The 15 Big Ones version would make it a trio. Then there's Brian's Live at the Roxy version. I wonder why they kept coming back to this song, which isn't exactly great. A few thoughts from contributors to the Smiley Smile board:

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Except for a brief middle eight (I think that's the correct term?), the exact same lyrics from the 15 Big Ones version existed way back in 1963. Then there is the 1970 recording, which is very different from the 1963 and 1976 versions....  


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[The 1963 version] could have been a Survivor's track and nobody would have known the difference. The instrumental track could easily have been created for the Survivors or the Honeys. In addition to the lead vocal, I'm assuming Brian recorded the countering "Back Home" background vocals too [since the rest of the Beach Boys, including David Marks, with Al filling in for Brian, were on tour in Hawaii].... Co-writer for "Back Home" was Bob Norberg, who was one of the Survivors (and Brian's roommate at the time this song was recorded)
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Bruce Springsteen -- "Mansion on the Hill" from Nebraska (1982)
youtube.com/watch?v=uyCbWoYbCbA

Neil Young & Crazy Horse -- a very different "Mansion on the Hill" from Ragged Glory (1990)
youtube.com/watch?v=XIiQETWm3j0

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Deb#1

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Al asks a good question: ‘does a family make a home or does a home make a family?’ I did look it up.
Homes and families are not the same thing.  Not all homes contain families.  Many homes have people who live alone or who share their residence with unrelated individuals.  We are increasingly living in non-family homes.
We are moving out of our family homes in our late teens and early 20s, setting up our own homes by ourselves or with housemates:
She's Leaving Home (Remastered 2009)

We are waiting longer to get married and are more likely to divorce.
James TW - When You Love Someone (Official Video)

Unmarried couples living together and gay and lesbian couples are likely to not be counted as family households even though they might share many characteristics of a family.
Who's In Your Family?

So what makes a home?
Johnny Mercer / Any Place I Hang My Hat Is Home



John B, yes, here’s a thought about my American home:
Dierks Bentley - Home



Larry, Homely? Even homely people have homes!
hi - Lites . Homely Girl. 1973
youtube.com/watch?v=KkHD4cxrF5E

I’m seeing your three pairs and raising it to three of a kind.
Van Morrison,Tom Jones & Jeff Beck, Bring it on Home to Me Sam Cooke cover,too.
youtube.com/watch?v=97MZWlkLpHw

Back Home – Owl City
youtube.com/watch?v=eEnVSKc43Gw

Mansion On The Hill
youtube.com/watch?v=Zu9pN_WIbDk

Now to the House Of The Rising Sun.
From Songfacts:
“Historians have not been able to definitively identify The House Of The Rising Sun, but here are the two most popular theories:
1) The song is about a brothel in New Orleans. "The House Of The Rising Sun" was named after its occupant Madame Marianne LeSoleil Levant (which means "Rising Sun" in French) and was open for business from 1862 (occupation by Union troops) until 1874, when it was closed due to complaints by neighbors. It was located at 826-830 St. Louis St.
2) It's about a women's prison in New Orleans called the Orleans Parish women's prison, which had an entrance gate adorned with rising sun artwork. This would explain the "ball and chain" lyrics in the song.”
So, about the employees…?
Another fun Songfact:
“The melody is a traditional English ballad, but the song became popular as an African-American folk song. It was recorded by Texas Alexander in the 1920s, then by a number of other artists including Leadbelly, Woody Guthrie, Josh White and later Nina Simone. It was her version The Animals first heard. No one can claim rights to the song, meaning it can be recorded and sold royalty-free. Many bands covered the song after it became a hit for The Animals.”
So another pair: NINA SIMONE - The House of the Rising Sun



Thanks for the votes, D.A.N. I have to start thinking about my own soon.

Until next time some HOMEY music:
Magnetic Zeros


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Deb -- Interesting post. Nina Simone's lyrics make the women's prison plausible, but it could still be a brothel. Of course, Eric Burdon looks like a guy ruined by gambling while hanging out at a brothel (where he lost his shirt and maybe his pants too). "Ball and chain" could be a metaphor. Some husbands of an earlier, less enlightened generation used it for someone supposedly tying them down. [smile]


Unhappy homes?

The Beach Boys -- "Angel Come Home" from that 1979 album
youtube.com/watch?v=SuOjskTbsAU

Randy Newman -- "Bad News From Home" from Land of Dreams (1988)
youtube.com/watch?v=KNYPAo6fnFc

Sufjan Stevens -- "They Also Mourn Who Do Not Wear Black (For the Homeless in Muskegon)" from Michigan (2003)
youtube.com/watch?v=A239LvKWADE

Yo La Tengo -- "Leaving Home", an instrumental from They Shoot, We Score (2008)
youtube.com/watch?v=E4w75OaD3uU

Hank Williams -- "I Won't Be Home No More" (1952-53)("you're just in time to be too late...")
youtube.com/watch?v=Qq3nviKtqro
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My votes , Brian by a long way .

Gold, Brian Wilson-Going Home

Silver , Supertramp-Take the Long Way Home

Bronze ,Bon Jovi-Who Says You Can't Go Home

Tin ,Ozzy Osbourne-Mama, I'm Coming Home
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Going home and staying there.

Buffalo Springfield -- "On the Way Home" -- a Neil Young song from Last Time Around (1968)
youtube.com/watch?v=SSnCUidmfEc

The Flaming Lips -- "Almost Home (Blisko Domu)" [Polish for "close to home"] from Oczy Mlody (2017) [bad Polish for something like "the young eyes]
 

The Clash -- "Safe European Home" from Give 'Em Enough Rope (1978)
youtube.com/watch?v=u_1ujgS8bIM

Neil Young & Crazy Horse -- "Country Home" from Ragged Glory (1990)
youtube.com/watch?v=SZb0Ha7k7WM

Thanks, Deb.
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Gold: Supertramp-Take the Long Way Home
Silver: Bon Jovi-Who Says You Can't Go Home
Bronze: Brian Wilson-Going Home

Tin: Ozzy Osbourne-Mama, I'm Coming Home

* Now if you had I'm Going Home by Ten Years After (live at Woodstock) that would have been my Gold!


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Hi all,
“home is where the heart is (on the bus)“. Don't know whether this will play in any country. No, I'm sure it won't. But if, you have to wait for 4:40. Ain't this what living's all about ?


GOLD p.m.
Brian, Scott, Taylor and the rest of the glorious gang. At 66 he turned on the light ... hearing songs from his far best solo album always leaves me euphoric.

SILVER
Roger H. looking for the longest and most winding road home. Standard stuff for lyrics analysis on high schools over here. In spite of this, indestructable for me.

BRONZE
Ozzy. Somewhat mediocre - not genius nor nut. Ozzy needs to be one of it. But solid.

TIN
Mr. Mainstream. Only Bruce the Boss can be flatter than that.


@Darren:
Thanks hell of a lot for “I Want That Man“. Though I love that woman extremely (my wife doesn't read here), I can't help saying that this song is best when chanted by as many gay guys as possible, at the end of a gay party.

Cheers
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