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Larry Franz

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Paul -- You make an English summer evening sound a little chilly.

Tom -- Thanks for your interesting analysis of Elvis Presley's career and influence. His first album, Elvis Presley, released March 1956, was a very big deal. It introduced many of us to rock 'n roll (I was 4 when it blew into our house.)


His second album, Elvis, released only seven months later, went to #1 in the US but seems to have been an afterthought. Elvis was riding high with singles that year, none of which were included on that second album. That's probably why I never got to hear it.


Mary -- There are so many songs that mention crying. I've been wondering if crying and tears are sometimes a crutch for songwriters, an easy way to express sadness, where a really talented lyricist might use other words. I don't know if there are many happy songs for every sad one, however. Maybe it's closer to an equal number? But it wouldn't surprise me if there were more sad ones.

Here's one of the songs you listed: "Tracks of My Tears". I almost used the original version by Smokey Robinson & the Miracles this week:

Followed by the excellent Linda Ronstad cover you mentioned:

Thanks for your votes, Paul and Tom. We now have 18 voters and a tiny bit of suspense.

Popeye (not the sailor)

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My crying votes:

Gold: In My Room - Beach Boys

Silver: Heartbreak Hotel - The King of Rock and Roll

Bronze: Stand By Me - Ben E. King

Tin: Walk On By - Dionne Warwick

Tammy Wynette's version was the first time I heard this tear jerker.

One of her last recordings. In the studio with Brian.

Great week Larry!
The Egg

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Hopefully under the wire......

Gold.........In my room

Silver.......Walk on by

Bronze.....Heartbreak Hotel

Tin...........Stand by Me

Easy over and out!!!

I’ve got a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell!

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Busier than a bee these days, so votes only,
Gold - The Beach Boys - In My Room
Silver - Ben E. King - Stand By Me
Bronze - Dionne Warwick - Walk On By
Tin - Elvis - Heartbreak Hotel

What the world needs now is love, sweet love
It's the only thing that there's just too little of
What the world needs now is love, sweet love,
No, not just for some but for everyone.”

Tom Tobben

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Larry, I wonder whether punk novices and latter day music newbies knew what this Clash album cover recalled:

Image result for clash album covers
Larry Franz

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Thanks for your votes, Popeye & the Egg! And the Tammy videos too.

We're approaching seven full days of this BOTB. If anyone still wants to vote, you've got another 11 hours or so until the final numbers are announced. 

Although I assumed "In My Room" would win this week, I tried to make the battle relatively even. In that regard, this week has been a miserable failure. On the other hand, it's been interesting and extremely active. 

Our preference, which has been clear all week, is almost the opposite of the positions these four songs got on Rolling Stone's rather silly list of 500 "greatest" songs (chosen by a poll of people in the music business in 2003):

#45 -- Heartbreak Hotel
70   -- Walk On By
121 -- Stand By Me
209 -- In My Room

The other six Beach Boys songs on the RS list are:

#6  -- Good Vibrations (retired from the battle)
25   -- God Only Knows (retired)
71   -- California Girls
176 -- Don't Worry, Baby (retired)
211 -- Caroline No
271 -- Sloop John B 

Four other songs retired from the battle don't appear on the RS list at all:

I Get Around
Surfer Girl
Surf's Up
Wouldn't It Be Nice

Finally, here are the last three songs I seriously considered that weren't mentioned this week: 

The Everly Brothers, "Cathy's Clown" ("When you see me shed a tear")

Marvine Gaye, "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" ("I know a man ain't supposed to cry, But these tears I can't hold inside")

R.E.M., "Everybody Hurts" ("'Cause everybody cries")

PS -- And I see Deb has voted too (thank you!) and Tom has asked a (rhetorical?) question, the answer to which should be apparent if you look at the cover of a certain album that exploded on the world in 1956!

PPS -- Pardon me, the relationship between those album covers should be apparent. The answer to Tom's question isn't.

bonnie bella

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Another notable mention from Mary with Elton John, who sang a whole lot about crying.  

Best Coast, "Why I Cry" and "Baby I'm Crying".

The Box Tops "Cry Like a Baby"

Goerge Harrison "This Guitar (Can't Keep From Crying)".

Legs 11? [smile]


Clowns divorce: custardy battle.     Simon Munnery

Larry Franz

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Originally Posted by bonnie bella

Legs 11? [smile]

bonnie: Is that a challenge or prediction relating to an upcoming page number? As in:

     legs plural :  long-term appeal or interest  "a news story with legs"

Elvis could have covered this song about a guitar, but apparently didn't. Regina Spektor did. 

"While My Guitar Gently Weeps"

Back with the numbers after breakfast.

t bedford

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The Jimi Hendrix Experience - The Wind Cries Mary

And yes, I added the full video in hopes of going to page 11. No such luck. Since all my other entries weren' bad!

I'm not a real billionaire, but I play one on TV!
Larry Franz

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This week's results with 21 voters:

Gold:  The Beach Boys, "In My Room"  77.5  (17-G, 0-S, 3-B, 0-T plus a tie for gold)

Silver:  Ben E. King, "Stand By Me"  56.5  (1-G, 12-S, 6-B, 1-T plus a tie for gold)

Bronze:  Elvis Presley, "Heartbreak Hotel"  40  (0-G, 7-S, 5-B, 9-T)

Tin:  Dionne Warwick, "Walk On By"  36  (2-G, 1-S, 7-B, 11-T)

Thanks to everyone who participated. It's been a slice!

Cindy is up next...

Lee Marshall

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Larry Franz..."The would-be emperor has no clothes, no clue and no shame."

Ain't that the truth.

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Hi all,

Larry said Cindy is up next.  Batter up!!!  I look forward to seeing what Cindy does.  
Darren J. Ray

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Well done, Larry. And well hosted.

It was the second time around for ‘In My Room’.

As noted, it won a Gold in Week 2 of Season III (DomesticAnimalNoises).

Its score that week of 62 points and 32.63% from 19 voters is not as impressive as this week’s 77.5 and 36.90 from 21 voters.

Accordingly, with the second highest points and the second highest percentage so far this year, ‘In My Room’ looks set for play-offs for the first time.

This is the record of the nine tracks associated with Surfer Girl that have been used in the Battle:

Surfer Girl (a Gold in Week 28 of Season IV, 1st (annual Gold) in Gold Play-Off - Jo McGuire),

Catch a Wave (a Silver in Week 18 of Season VIII - Deb#1),

The Surfer Moon (a Gold in Week 20 of Season I - Paul Adsett; a Gold in Week 6 of Season VI - Tom Tobben),

Little Deuce Coupe (a Tin in Week 45 of Season I - Cynthia D, Hood),

In My Room (a Gold in Week 2 of Season III - DomesticAnimalNoises; a Gold in Week 25 of Season VIII - Larry Franz),

Hawaii (a Bronze in Week 21 of Season V, 1st in Bronze Play-Off, 8th in Preliminary Final - Jo McGuire),

Fun, Fun, Fun (mono) (a Gold in Week 6 of Season V, 4th in Gold Play-Off - Deb#1; a Gold in Week 11 of Season VIII - t Bedford),

In My Room (German version) (a Silver in Week 39 of Season VII - t Bedford),

I Do (a Tin in Week 12 of Season I, 1st in Tin Play-Off - Prodigal Son)

‘Heartbreak Hotel’ is the sixth Elvis Presley track to appear in the Battle.

His record:

If I Can Dream (a Bronze in Week 44 of Season I - Cynthia D. Hood),
Hound Dog' (a Gold in Week 25 of Season IV, 5th in Gold Play-Off - snoops71),
Crawfish (a Silver in Week 27 of Season IV - Deb#1),
Little Sister (a Gold in Week 3 of Season VI - t Bedford),
Suspicious Minds (a Silver in Week 28 of Season VII - Al Forsyth),
Heartbreak Hotel (a Bronze in Week 25 of Season VIII - Larry Franz)


Larry Franz

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Darren: You used the phrase "associated with", but to allay any confusion on the part of the internet public, "Fun, Fun, Fun" and "I Do" were bonus tracks on a Surfer Girl CD, but weren't on the original album. "Fun, Fun, Fun", of course, was on Shut Down Vol 2 and the Beach Boys' "I Do" wasn't released at all until the 1990 "two-fer" CD that combined those two albums. [smile]

But while I'm here, it's hard to tell the difference between these two, both arranged and produced by Brian:

The Castells, "I Do" from 1964 (they didn't make it on their looks)

The Beach Boys, "I Do"

Cindy: Please pardon the interruption.

bonnie bella

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This thread certainly had legs.  But it's just a bingo term.  

Riveting read, right here.  Clickety click!  (Do check out no. 83, if that's all you do.)


Clowns divorce: custardy battle.     Simon Munnery

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