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Larry Franz

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Lisa -- Thank you for the intermission. No rush on the voting. We've got days and days to go yet. With respect to that comment from David St. Hubbins about "six words in the whole song", if rock music was limited to six words, one of them would be "cry". Or maybe that's country music.


dkmh -- Thanks for your votes. You're the 10th voter so far, joining eight others who agree on this week's winner. Will someone besides Mr. Forsyth buck the trend?

For those keeping score at home, two of those Chris Isaak songs include tearful lyrics. "It's Now Or Never" ("Just like a willow, We would cry an ocean") and "Fade Away" ("Cry for their love, like I do").

Mr. Isaak also recorded "That Lucky Old Sun" during his Sun sessions. Here's the original from 1949 by Frankie Laine ("Dear Lord above, can't you know I'm pining, tears all in my eyes"). As far as I know, Brian never recorded those lyrics for his TLOS album.




Two more recent tracks:

M83, "My Tears Are Becoming a Sea"


Camera Obscura, "Tears For Affairs"


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Fifth page in 3 days....impressive!

Janis Joplin - Cry, Baby



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Fifth page in 3 days....impressive!


Yes, although helped along by the death of a beloved musician and a heated discussion of an even more famous musician, beloved by millions and millions.

Another from Janis: Big Brother and the Holding Company, "Summertime" ("Hush, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, no, no, no, no, don't you cry")


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Lisa, it sounds raga. [biggrin]
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Still working on my ballot...but thought we could use a humorous intermission here with a couple of suitable Spinal Tip snippets.

First, "Heartbreak Hotel" with some attempted harmonizing:




Plus, their first song that fits the theme with the line "...and I'm gonna cry, cry, cry all the way home":



next time I'm here, it'll be with my ballot ready - Promise!


Thanks for these.  Spinal Tap is one of my favorite comedies. 

It's kinda sad that a fake band from the early 80s put out better music than most bands today.  
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"better"?    in what way? 

we really have to work on getting you an irony detector...
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"better"?    in what way? 

we really have to work on getting you an irony detector...


Better songs, better musicianship, better singing.  


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I love your passion, John, but which specific song from Tickle Me do you think is better than 'Help!', 'You're Going to Lose That Girl' or 'Ticket to Ride'?

Exactly. The Beatles could blow Elvis away any day!

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well, I guess the superior lyrics about bun-cakes and Stonehenge and what not, of course that goes without saying...

this reminds me, kids, honest.  One time, long ago, I came out of the theater after seeing this movie, and three young teen/long-haired males were talking.  One said, "...if they were going to make a movie about a rock group, they should have found a better one..."  They all agreed, and not one of those 3 even smiled.



Elvis v. The Beatles is oranges v. apples.  To the inferred assertion that one cannot prefer oranges (e.g., loving "If I Can Dream" more than "Come Together,") I dissent.

btw: Elvis in the black leather suit could have kicked John Lennon's heroin-abusing Limey rear-end.



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Someone has to sing it. Especially when the "artist" is incapable of doing so, either for lack of talent, or insecurity. Singers bring the songwriters "art" to life. Otherwise, they just remain words on a page.

Elvis was a performer with talent. Performers are also artists in their own right. Think about that. If you wrote a song and couldn't or wouldn't sing it yourself, you would need a singer who was capable of artistically getting your point across.

I'm not denying the fact that he was a talented singer. I don't particularly enjoy his style of singing, but nevertheless, he had a knack for it. But too much credit is given to singers rather than the artists behind the songs. I believe it takes more skill to compose decent music and author lyrics of any substance than it does to express them through vocals. In no way am I devaluing any vocalists' abilities (unless they suck). In my opinion, the songwriters should receive equal or greater credit than the performers, and if the songwriter happens to be the performer, or a band member (like Brian) then he or she deserves the most credit.

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well, I guess the superior lyrics about bun-cakes and Stonehenge and what not, of course that goes without saying...

this reminds me, kids, honest.  One time, long ago, I came out of the theater after seeing this movie, and three young teen/long-haired males were talking.  One said, "...if they were going to make a movie about a rock group, they should have found a better one..."  They all agreed, and not one of those 3 even smiled.








You might want to do a fact check before you confuse Spinal Tap with the Beatles, John.

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?  Believe me, GGH, I never confused the two...

and so you don't have to flip back, I did respond to the question.  I prefer "It Feels So Right" by Elvis to
"Ticket to Ride" by the Beatles.  Also "Put the Blame on Me" is better than "You're Gonna Lose That Girl."  "Dirty, Dirty Feeling" and "Slowly but Surely" are better than "Help!".  All my cited Elvis songs were from the movie soundtrack of "Tickle Me."   You see, even though I would now be un-invited to any scheduled 'Be-in' hosted by GGH, democracy is good...

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Better songs, better musicianship, better singing.  



Songs that he DIDN'T WRITE. Recordings that he barely strummed a guitar or just SANG ON. And you think this one dude with a voice that can't manage to keep from jumping up and down can beat 3 great singers that harmonize together (plus one Ringo Starr)?

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?  Believe me, GGH, I never confused the two...

and so you don't have to flip back, I did respond to the question.  I prefer "It Feels So Right" by Elvis to
"Ticket to Ride" by the Beatles.  Also "Put the Blame on Me" is better than "You're Gonna Lose That Girl."  You see: democracy is good.


I respect that you have your opinions, but in what specific way is Elvis' music BETTER than the Beatles'? Preference is one thing, but to say one is actually better than another is something else.

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Well, didn't John say the Beatles were better than Jesus?

that was uh, sacri... naw, I can't go through with this.  to each his own.  ha...
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