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votes are in and we have: Gold to the Beach Boys with 55 Silver to Ray Charles with 45 Bronze to Don McLean with 43 Tinder to The Guess Who with 27 It was a battle! Total of 170 with our 17 voters We have our American Dream and it comes to us from Hawthorne, California. Could it be any other way? youtube.com/watch?v=mOHO3BWu0wk Take it away Bonnie from across the globe! __________________ A diamond necklace played the pawn...
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Great week, Al. I'll post some stats shortly.
I'd been meaning to post this all week and then forgot to. It's written and composed by the great Russell Morris, from late 1970... Larry, some alternative lyrics to 'God Save the Queen', courtesy of the Sex Pistols.... God save the queen The fascist regime They made you a moron Potential H-bomb God save the queen She ain't no human being There is no future In England's dreaming Don't be told what you want Don't be told what you need There's no future, no future, No future for you God save the queen We mean it man We love our queen God saves God save the queen 'Cause tourists are money And our figurehead Is not what she seems Oh God save history God save your mad parade Oh Lord God have mercy All crimes are paid When there's no future How can there be sin We're the flowers in the dustbin We're the poison in your human machine We're the future, your future God save the queen We mean it man We love our queen God saves God save the queen We mean it man And there is no future In England's dreaming No future, no future, No future for you No future, no future, No future for me No future, no future, No future for you No future, no future For you Wiki says: The song reached No.1 on the NME charts in the United Kingdom, and made it to No. 2 on the official UK Singles Chart as used by the BBC. This led to accusations by some that the charts had been "fixed" to prevent the song from reaching No. 1. Let's compare that to America's reaction to the Dixie Chicks. Prior to Natalie Maines making her comment about G Dubbya, the Dixie Chicks had had six songs go to #1 on the US Country Chart (according to Wiki). Since that comment, they've had nothing inside the Top 30. Ah, the land of free speech!
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Thanks to all voters/contributors to this week. Some good thoughts and musical selections. The dream may be changing but it's still on. Brian and the Beach Boys did create something that still exists however. Dream on everyone!
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Well done, Al. And well hosted.
It was the second time around for ‘All Summer Long’. Previously, it won the Gold in Week 24 of Season V and finished 4 th in the Preliminary Final (Cindy Hood). Its scores that week were 76 points and 33.04% from 23 voters. This week it scored 55 and 32.35 from 17 voters. (Personal opinion: I suspect the popularity of this for Americans, as Tom mentions, is due, in particular, to two things. Whilst American Graffiti was successful here, it’s obvious from comments on this board over the years that it was way more impactful in the United States, particularly to baby boomers. And Australia and the UK didn’t even get Endless Summer. We got 20 Golden Greats which doesn’t have ‘All Summer Long’ on it.) Predictably (well, to me), ‘America the Beautiful’ polarised opinion, clearly depending on where you live. 12 of the 17 voters were from North America. Five of them gave it their Gold. Three of them gave it their Silver (all giving their Gold to ‘All Summer Long’). Only t, Larry, Cindy and Tom gave it their Bronze. No Tins. Of the remaining five voters – two from the UK, two from Australia, one from New Zealand – ‘America the Beautiful’ chalked up a Silver, a Bronze and three Tins (incidentally, all five preferring ‘American Pie’). It was the fourth appearance for Ray Charles. His record: Drown in My Own Tears (a Bronze in Week 10 of Season I - Gordon Higgins), Hit the Road, Jack (a Tin in Week 11 of Season II - Prodigal Son), What’d I Say (a Silver in Week 16 of Season VIII, 2 nd in Silver Play-Off - GGH), America the Beautiful (a Silver in Week 21 of Season IX - Al Forsyth) ‘American Pie’, as also suspected, polarised opinion. It scored 4 Golds (Tom was the only American), 4 Silvers, 6 Bronzes and 3 Tins (all from the US).
The irony here is, because of the closeness of the scores, it’s the only one of the four songs that is a chance of making its play-off (Bronze) in its own right.
That means for ‘All Summer Long’ and ‘America the Beautiful’ to progress, they rely on ‘American Pie’ winning its play-off. It was the third appearance for Don McLean. His record: Castles in the Air (a Tin in Week 42 of Season I - Darren J. Ray), Empty Chairs (a Silver in Week 42 of Season III - Jo McGuire), American Pie (a Bronze in Week 21 of Season IX - Al Forsyth) It was the second appearance for The Guess Who. ‘No Time’ won the Tin in Week 34 of Season II (Tom Tobben; one of only three weeks ever in which all four songs made play-offs) and finished 4 th in the Tin Play-Off.
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Just want to comment on Larry's mention of Jonathan Richman. I would call Jonathan a "good American" meaning that he openly embraces different cultures, ethnicities, genders, and nationalities. You know, our values, ideally, and when he travels abroad he does so with good will. Two of his most famous early songs were 'Kwa Ti Feng' and 'Egyptian Reggae', that celebrated multiculturallism. He sings about being '17 in Naples' and walking in Boston, but also, walking in the Bahamas, walking in Bermuda, listening to locals singing Bee Gees songs at the steps of Montmartre'; he plays Bolero, he talks about how important the guitar riffs from 'Zorro' were to him. He has recorded complete albums in Spanish. He almost always sings at least 1 (or 4) songs in Spanish on every album, as well as in French. His song 'Take me to the Plaza' celebrates...the way communities abroad hang out in public together in cities, in the evenings...like in Mexico, like what I will experience in Beijing when I leave for there on Friday. The US can still learn from other countries, he wishes in some ways. Jonathan gets around like Brian and Tupac. He talks about going to Israel as a kid to see relatives, rather like Bob Marley would come the US as a teen to see his relatives. How could Boston-accented Jonathan make a country album that would be credible to someone such as me, from Houston? Because he did. Jonathan is the American dream in the best way.
Most people know his very early stuff like 'Roadrunner' (yes, covered by the Pistols) which was the first punk/new wave "hit" at least in the UK. I would say my two favorite of his albums in recent years were: "Her Mystery Not of High Heels and Eye Shadow" ('Springtime in New York' is kind of like 'Parties in the USA'--a glass half full song/about love being stronger than...negative imagery) and "Because Her Beauty is Raw and Wild" which is like a tribute album to his recently deceased mother. People who complain that after the Roadrunner era, they can't hear Jonathan's Velvet Underground, Lou Reed, and Iggy Pop love, can hear some of that influence on that album, including playing electric guitar. How could Jonathan, such a smiling moonbeam man-child, who sings about 'Rockin Rockin Leprechauns' and 'the Ice Cream Man' and so forth, sing about sadness and death and how much he loves the Velvet Underground? Because he can. Did you know he sang a Leonard Cohen cover on that album? no way, that can't be. oh, it Be! and he plays guitar, even acoustic guitar, very well, how well? Willie Nelson good. Paul Simon good. Practically Chet Atkins good, if he wants. There is a YOUTUBE download of a full live concert, called "Take Me to the Plaza" which to me, is really great, and features only him on guitar with a drummer. He can play the bass parts with one hand and the melody parts with the other hand. We were not lucky enough to see/hear Brian play solo in small auditoriums on piano alone with a drummer, say in 1976-1977, or maybe Brian & Andy live, only, in the early 1990's. Jonathan is the next best thing. Did I just say that? yes I did.