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Tom Tobben

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Inspired by the above Beach Boys song  lyric and the numerous group and solo songs about bodies of water written and performed by members of the Beach Boys, I decided to create a battle consisting of all solo Beach Boys songs about bodies of water, and I found four examples. Unfortunately, the solo song by Mike Love (“Daybreak Over the Ocean”) that I wanted to use did not have any videos that would play in all of our participating countries. Thus, I had to substitute a Beach Boys song that was co-written and having lead vocals by Mike as my closest proxy for a Mike Love song about bodies of water. I was not able to find a solo song about bodies of water from Carl's solo recordings. Without further ado, here are this week’s four battle songs:

#1. “Don’t Fight the Sea”, Al Jardine – from Al’s 2010 solo album A Postcard from California. Although this is from Al’s solo album and co-written by Al with Terry Jacks, this song contains backing vocals and harmonies by other longtime members of the Beach Boys, including Carl:

#2. “Pacific Ocean Blues”, Dennis Wilson – from Dennis’ 1977 debut solo album, Pacific Ocean Blue. This song was co-written by Dennis with Mike Love. I had considered using “River Song”, but it was just recently used a couple weeks ago, so I went with this one:

#3. “Rio Grande”, Brian Wilson – from his 1988 debut solo album, Brian Wilson, and co-written with Andy Paley. This is one of Brian’s more creative, multi-part songs and one that also made it onto the recent Brian Wilson Anthology album from 2017:

#4. “Don’t Go Near the Water”, Beach Boys – This ecology-themed lead song from the Beach Boys classic Surf’s Up album from 1971, was co-written by Mike Love with Al Jardine, and with Mike on most of the lead vocals:

 

The song I had intended to use as Mike’s solo song for this week’s battle was “Daybreak Over the Ocean” from Mike’s recent solo album Unleash the Love (2017), an earlier version of which was also on the Beach Boys’ That’s Why God Made the Radio album (2012). Mike’s solo version is a notably different take than on TWGMTR a few years earlier. Though this song wasn’t able to be a battle contestant this week, here it is for those in countries that are able to play this video:

 

As you evaluate and rank this week’s songs, please feel free to add other Beach Boys solo or group songs associated with bodies of water, or songs by other artists that directly relate to this week’s "oceans, rivers, lakes, and streams" theme.

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Darren J. Ray

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Onya, Tom. 

As one of us has already suggested to me, Al must've forgotten to book the Botox appointment before that clip.

And thank you Macca for that caveat. [rolleyes] 
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Al Forsyth

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Water, water, everywhere!  THIS is a battle. 
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paul g adsett

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ah, coooool...
but, for the less adventurous amongst us,
who'd prefer to enjoy aquatic activities in the privacy of,
well, without going out,
here's a tale of a stay-at-home who found the party came to him:
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Lee Marshall

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GOLD:  Pacific Ocean Blues-Dennis.  One of the best ever 60s-70s solo efforts from a guy in a band.  Lots going on deep down inside this song.  The 2nd most creative guy in the Beach Boys.
Silver:  Rio Grande-Brian.  To be expected...NOT given the circumstances though.  Those who need instant gratification won't like it.  It makes you wait, savour...and think
Bronze:  Don't Go Near the Water-Beach Boys.  Good song.  Good message...or it would have been if the lyrics were better/smarter.  "Don't you think it's sad?  Our water's goin' bad."?  Really?  Seriously?  WEAK!!!
Just barely 'tinny taste':  Don't Fight the Sea-Al.  Almost tied this for 3rd...but it's just a mini-notch below.  Terry Jacks recorded the original and released it just after 'Seasons in the Sun' back in '74.

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kds

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Gold - Al - Don't Fight the Sea is probably my favorite song off Al's lone solo studio album.  

Silver - The Beach Boys - IMO, this is a pretty average song that is really taken to a different level with the wordless vocals on the coda

Bronze - Dennis - Pretty good

Tin - Brian - To me, this song is a forced effort of some sort of Smile pastiche.   The production is also horrific
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Led Zeppelin cracks my summer playlist with Down by the Seaside



Jimmy Buffett sings about One Particular Harbor.



A deep cut from The Who's Quadrophenia

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John B

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Exactly opposite of kds' order:

1. "Rio Grande" by Brian with Andy.  Great song.

Don't know where kds gets some of his ideas!   what a crazy nut. ha. 

2.  "Pacific Ocean Blue"

survives the contributing lyrics from the 'dreaded' Mike Love.  forgot who said that first but true dat.

3. "Don't Go Near the Water"

yes, just a little sing-song with the lyrics, as Lee suggests, but...Rieley would have made it worse.

4.  "Don't Fight the Sea"

just okay, so not as good as 'Lady Lynda' or 'At My Window' or 'Good Time'.
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Larry Franz

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Point of order:

Is it fair to vote for "Don't Go Near the Water" based on the full song, which lasts roughly 2 minutes and 40 seconds, instead of today's version, which ends more than 10 seconds too soon?

I hope it is fair, because the ending is by far the best part of the song.

The whole thing:

youtube.com/watch?v=AjZES3_SSYA


Another song that's all wet:

Grandaddy, "The Crystal Lake"

youtube.com/watch?v=XeOxH9mHYIs

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Al Forsyth

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I REALLY like this Daybreak Over The Ocean!  Wish it could have been in play.  It beats out the TWGMTR version unless the BIG group vocals come in:


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Larry Franz

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Enough water has flowed under the bridge....

Gold -- Brian, "Rio Grande" -- Way, way, way ahead of the competition. Hell, the two minutes that start four minutes in and begin with "the river's deep and the river's so wide" and end with "I wanna tell you that she's my girl, there's nothing like her in the whole wide world" is way, way, way ahead of the competition.

Silver -- The guys, "Don't Go Near the Water" -- Al co-wrote three songs on the Surf's Up album and it would have been better if they'd all stayed on the shelf (the other two being "Take Good Care of Your Feet" and "Lookin' at Tomorrow"). That would have freed up seven minutes for Dennis's "4th of July" and even "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again", which I'm not crazy about. In fact, I'm going to stay sitting down and make my own Surf's Up right after I finish voting! Although it must be said that the last 35 seconds of the complete "Don't Go Near" are wonderful -- they could have put that little bit at the beginning or end of the album.

Bronze -- Dennis, "Pacific Ocean Blues" -- Totally forgettable. One of the reasons I said a few weeks ago that I generally don't care for his songwriting.

Tin -- Al, "Don't Fight the Water" -- Even more totally forgettable if that makes any sense.


Two more wet ones:

The Secret Sisters, "Tennesee River Runs Low"
youtube.com/watch?v=6otfalsX8Jc

Fleet Foxes, "Grown Ocean"
youtube.com/watch?v=Pgv6dKV03dA



PS:  Surf's Up Revised (still 33 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1vCWCmzw3sloIp6qwvZALkqH8tbCZGPX

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Lee, I really like the Terry Jacks version of "Don't Fight the Sea".

The Wondermints - that's about as close as I can get at the moment.  "In and Around Greg Lake".  Great song.  [smile]

youtube.com/watch?v=Hu6P8dZ77RE





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Darren J. Ray

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kds, your Led Zeppelin and Jimmy Buffett clips wouldn't play here. 

Tom's 'Daybreak Over the Ocean' clip doesn't play in the UK or Canada, which is why it couldn't be used. 

In case everyone is not aware, many but not all clips that will not play in certain countries are easy to identify.

They have at least two of three features. 

The picture (called a thumbnail) on the clip is the original album cover in a box and the title and artist to the right of it.

Below in the description will be 'Provided to YouTube by (a record company)'.

And many, in the description, will have the word TOPIC. 

There may be others here who understand this more fully than I do, but I believe YouTube creates these clips with permission from the track's record company when it identifies no clip for the song already on YouTube.

But it makes it only available in certain areas (I think to create some interest).

These clips will not work everywhere, least of all in the UK where record companies seem to enforce stricter copyright protection on what is essentially their product.

Universal Music Group (which bought the former EMI catalogue in 2012) is one of these. This is why certain clips containing studio recordings by the Beach Boys and almost all Beatles clips will not play in the UK. 

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John B

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thanks for trying, but this sort of thing is beyond my comprehension. 

but related, I always go to MSN.com homepage, which uses a Bing.com browser, and type in brianwilson.com.  that's how I get to this site.  Anyway, until yesterday, to the right, a picture of a bearded Brian appeared, from about...mid to late 80's, I would guess.  But now, a really terrific beardless one is shown, more up to date and much better in my opinion!   (again, I always wonder about the reason(s) for these picture changes).
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Larry Franz

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Quote:
Originally Posted by John B
thanks for trying, but this sort of thing is beyond my comprehension. .

The YouTube videos Darren is referring to all look like this:

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There is a picture of the album cover on the left, and the names of the song, artist and album on the right. These videos usually don't work for everyone. 


A golden oldie: The Standells, "Dirty Water"
youtube.com/watch?v=62XRy-jFCm8

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