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Darren J. Ray

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Gold - What Is a Young Girl Made Of (Kenny and the Cadets/The Beach Boys - 1962)
Is this doo-wop? Doesn’t matter. It’s the only one of these I’d have in my collection. Bought this on an album when I was about 14. Nowhere near as good as ‘Barbie’, but a nice slice of history. Where is the version of an unsure Brian apologising for nearly laughing at the end, and who is the woman talking to him at the end? Dorinda Morgan? Audree Wilson?

Silver - Club of Broken Hearts (The BrillianTears - 2014)
Sounds like an average European group’s take on doo-wop. It is. I hate the start with that bass vocal (my immediate thought was there’s my Tin), but it’s not a bad tune. Listenable and there’s enough in there to make it interesting. Well sung. But soooo unoriginal.

Bronze - Gotta Get Back to You (The Crystalairs - 1996)
See first comment for ‘Club of Broken Hearts’. The key change into the chorus – even the first one – is unusual and even alarming. Not sure I approve. The spoken bit drops it down a notch. The waitress pulls it up a notch. 

Participant - Here In My Heart (The Wizards - circa 1981)
If this had been on Happy Days, I would’ve switched off long before I did.

Possibly a derivation of doo-wop but this is a track that’s been on very high rotation at my place lately. It’s definitely a soul, R&B, pop track trying to sound ‘60s. It was released in 2008.

 

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If 'Everyday' was in the list - that would have been my pick.  Nice.  


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Originally Posted by bonnie bella
Upon retrospect, my contributions last night were about as doo-woppy as roadkill. This displays my ignorance in the matter.

Apparently, after a short research period, I found that this was the first song considered do-wop.  The Turbans "When You Dance".

youtube.com/watch?v=WWB9ZXMsMDY

Hi bonnie -- Another part of the internet says "When You Dance" (1955) was the first song to use the words "doo wop", but the style developed from the late 1930s into the early 1950s. For example:

The Ink Spots  "If I Didn't Care" (1939)
youtube.com/watch?v=vH_zodj-5Vo

The Orioles "What Are You Doing New Year's Eve?" (1949)
youtube.com/watch?v=6lgtk79GQlA

The Ravens  "Count Every Star" (1950)
youtube.com/watch?v=afuHNPY_shw

The Orioles  "Crying in the Chapel" (1953)
youtube.com/watch?v=eEwcMvcWKgk

The Cadillacs  "Gloria" (1954)
youtube.com/watch?v=U28e4EEC2j4

The Nutmegs  "Story Untold" (1955)
youtube.com/watch?v=KOKYGzAhLQE

Some of it may have sounded like imminent roadkill to conservative listeners. [smile]

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bonnie
- never, ever, heard a 4 part harmony, a capella version of this
sung on any no-stop-sign, 4 way street, country backroad junction,
but can just about imagine what it might sound like:
 
(hmm - is the sound 'doo wop!'
the sound made by a roaming mammal squidged by a zooming vehicle?)
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Maybe we need a roadkill week?

Little Mix "Love Me Like You".

youtube.com/watch?v=1WpoKRnoPRU

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Roadkill week? Yuck.

But back to this week, and if WIAYGMO truly is doo wop?. The best dw may be from "those magic changes" themselves but a lot of the songs this week have some wonderful additions.

I have that early Beach Boys cd somewhere. Have to find it

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But back to this week, and if WIAYGMO truly is doo wop? The best dw may be from "those magic changes" themselves but a lot of the songs this week have some wonderful additions.

The Students  "I'm So Young" (clearly doo wop)
youtube.com/watch?v=ZX5YPpfOINQ

The Beach Boys  "I'm So Young" (still doo wop?)
youtube.com/watch?v=uieE43uxur0


Let's not forget:

The Chips  "Rubber Biscuit"
youtube.com/watch?v=Hz0UvIZw-Y0

The Coasters  "Along Came Jones"
youtube.com/watch?v=eFyr49TwuiI


In a more serious and doo woppish vein: 

The Chantels  "Maybe"
youtube.com/watch?v=IePTH1PWzAs

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It looks like this week is turning out to be an educational week.  I’m enlightening myself as well.  I really like this “nu-wop” (as I first saw the genre referred to).  I like the oldie sound but I like hearing the modern takes as well.

I especially wanted to highlight like songs that were original and recent recordings in the doo-wop style, but I don’t think I entirely accomplished that.  It looks like Here in My Heart has its roots in a recording earlier by the Timetones, earlier than Joel Katz and the Wizards.  I believe there may also be a later? version put out by just the Wizards. And yes there are pieces of the Bristol Stomp there. But I also hear pieces of the Bristol Stomp  in the Timetones version, released in 1961:

Here’s another by the Timetones:

Additionally there have been a lot of doo-wop influences mixed with other genres to create.  WIAYGMO is an early doo-wop crossing into popular.
bonnie, here is the original “Shoop, Shoop Song, I actually thought it had elements of doo-wop.

paul, I heard a lot of folk infuences in the Magic Numbers (amiright?) and definitely the R&B in Kendra Lou and the Miracles.

Al, I especially your post of mr. softee.Thanks to Al, John B, Darren, D.A.N, and stkilda4ever, for the votes.
My regrets in not responding sooner to your great posts this week.  I’m loving them all.  The dear hubby went in for surgery yesterday.  I was sure he’d be zonked out for a while and I’d have plenty of time to type.  Wrong, he came through it like a charm and now is up and around and in a state of recovery (grouchiness).  Some attention required. [crazy] He’s been listening and votes for The Crystalairs and also commented on the bells he was hearing in the songs I was playing.  He told me to look up:

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Deb, you have mail. [comp]

Darren I’ll read and “Gotta get Back to You” [smile]

Roadkill? Ok. It’s dinner in some parts of the US.


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Deb - more education and edification:


I don't know about some of these.  On he clip it's Fred Paris and three other Satins. 

For me, it's still "In The Still Of The Night" as ultimate doo-wop. 

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here's the earliest recording of what became a very popular song
'mbube' / 'wimoweh' / 'the lion sleeps tonight'
in various versions and styles over decades.
here's solomon linda and the evening birds
which clearly demonstrates how the origins of doo wop inevitably include
harmonies  and call and response that stretch back a long way in time and place
beyod street corners in brooklyn.

fascinating court cases over its zulu origins and proper royalties finally being paid,
well after others had dipped their hands in the pot, including disney.
appropriated by pete seeger & the weavers,
a massive doo wop hit for the tokens who also  tried to claim ownership.
a late on live rendering here:

rem covered it, even brian eno released a single version
(shan't upload that one, though i've enjoyed its jaunty, innocence when heard)
ladysmith black mambazo teamed up with the mint juleps for a jolly fine collaboration:

and here's the wondrous miriam makeba

hat's my lot...

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A few good ones:

The Penguins  "Hey, Senorita" (this was supposed to be the A-side, but the other side was "Earth Angel", which eventually sold over 10 million copies)
youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9z5SDS1mc

The Jive Five  "My True Story"
youtube.com/watch?v=glOMdK8gfbo

The Falcons "You're So Fine"
youtube.com/watch?v=J8HNDaPV7Cc


One of those newer groups covers the Skyliners:

Kenny Vance & the Planotones, "This I Swear" (1996)
youtube.com/watch?v=cG6Et0iyZKU


Something unexpected in 1968:

The Mothers of Invention "I'm Not Satisfied" and "Anything" from Cruising with Ruben & the Jets
youtube.com/watch?v=Qbq-GFyvwxY

youtube.com/watch?v=r9BAvyXV22Q

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It's the start of America's Memorial Day weekend and it's 90 degrees. There are groups of sweaty young men standing on street corners in the Bronx and Philadelphia singing about desire and heartache. (Not all of this is exactly true.)

The Rivileers - "A Thousand Stars"
youtube.com/watch?v=RFXV1OM1DHg

Clyde McPhatter & the Drifters - "Money Honey"
youtube.com/watch?v=N8oNHMNCSjQ

The Drifters - "Fools Fall In Love"
youtube.com/watch?v=JagTXEBQX6o

Dion & the Belmonts - "No One Knows" and "That's My Desire"
youtube.com/watch?v=y9VLtelUUMk

youtube.com/watch?v=MIZo9ueQoXY

Thank you, Deb.

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Well wop-de-doo, it's time to vote.

GOLD - Joel Katz & The Wizards.  A pretty and boppy little number.  Cute, and almost instantly forgettable.  Don't ask me about it tomorrow.

SILVER - The Crystalairs.  Until the talkie bit, I was very okay with this song and it probably would have got my gold.  A short talkie bit is almost as bad as a long talkie bit.  Talkie bits ruin songs, (The Lonely Sea being a good example of that). It's smooth and listenable though, and as already mentioned, there's something about eyeballs or sockets or some such in there, so I'll give it credit for having an unorthodox word or two rolling around in the soda pop.

BRONZE - Kenny & The Cadets.  Young girls are made up of sugar and spice and everything nice. Everyone knows that's true, right? [rolleyes]  

TIN - The Other One.  Disaster.  This is a case of too many ding-dangs.


Meghan Trainor "Dear Future Husband"

youtube.com/watch?v=mp7qWfDANrU

And I posted this a few weeks back, but I'm loving it right now.  Rhianna "Love on the Brain"

youtube.com/watch?v=jeZg2JiSdVQ

Does this count?  Always brings prickles.  

youtube.com/watch?v=cUFVR5sgbt0

Thanks, Deb.

(Speaking of prickles, roadkill week is fast approaching... [smile])

 





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 sweaty men, larry?
oh, the frissons...
but, to ensure parity
(and, indeed, destroy any feasible arousal)
please do not look or listen to this monstrosity:
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 sweaty men, larry?
oh, the frissons...

As we know, young women did not hang around on street corners or sweat in the 1950s. That partly explains the lack of successful female groups singing in the doo wop style. But they did exist, the Chantels being the prime example. Two others:

The Teen Queens - "Eddie My Love" (1956)
youtube.com/watch?v=Lb4Dgc85r3U

The Shirelles - "I Met Him on a Sunday" (1958)
youtube.com/watch?v=Q0D_qkha5wU

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