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Darren J. Ray

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Women have been severely under-represented in the Battle over the years.

Only two female acts - The Ronettes and Skeeter Davis - plus The Platters (four guys, one lady) have made a Gold Play-Off over six seasons.

The other 57 acts have all been totally male.

For those wondering, they have been The Beach Boys (39 entries), The Beatles (6), Brian Wilson (3), Roy Orbison (2), and George Gershwin, George Harrison, Simon & Garfunkel, The Kinks, Elvis Presley, John Lennon and Sam Cooke (1 each).

In fact, the only female or multi-gender acts to make it to the play-offs in the first six seasons are the following:


Season I
Carpenters - 2nd in Tin Play-Off
Annette Funicello & The Beach Boys - 8th in Tin Play-Off
Sly & the Family Stone - 2nd in Bronze Play-Off

Season II
The 5th Dimension - 6th in Tin Play-Off
Carole King - 5th in Preliminary Final

Season III
The Mamas & the Papas - 1st in Bronze Play-Off, 5th in Preliminary Final
The Crystals - 2nd in Bronze Play-Off
The Mamas & the Papas - 3rd in Silver Play-Off
Carly Simon - 5th in Silver Play-Off
The Ronettes - 4th in Gold Play-Off

Season IV
The Cowsills - 6th in Bronze Play-Off
ABBA - 7th in Bronze Play-Off
Dusty Springfield - 4th in Preliminary Final
Terri Clark - 10th in Preliminary Final
Skeeter Davis - 7th in Gold Play-Off

Season V
Spring - 6th in Tin Play-Off
Sarah Blasko - 9th in Tin Play-Off
The Cowsills - 6th in Bronze Play-Off
Crystal Gayle - 8th in Bronze Play-Off
Rosanne Cash - 9th in Bronze Play-Off
Sister Janet Mead - 10th in Bronze Play-Off
Bobbie Gentry - 7th in Silver Play-Off
Sonny & Cher - 10th in Preliminary Final
The Platters - 9th in Gold Play-Off

Season VI
The Shangri-Las - 2nd in Tin Play-Off
Shades of Blue - 3rd in Tin Play-Off
“Mama” Cass Elliot - 1st in Bronze Play-Off
The Cowsills - 4th in Bronze Play-Off
Lulu - 5th in Silver Play-Off
Elle King - 7th in Silver Play-Off
Brian Wilson featuring Kacey Musgraves - 7th in Preliminary Final


That’s 31 of the 300 entries in all play-offs. 10%.

Hoping to rectify that this week, showcasing three major female talents.

Plus there’s a Beach Boys song. 


Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down) (Raquel Welch - 1967)

  Holy Man (Allison Durbin - 1971)


  La Madrague (Brigitte Bardot - 1963) *


  That’s Why God Made the Radio (The Beach Boys - 2012)

 

* If anyone cannot view this clip, let me know. There are alternatives.

 

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John E

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Here are a few more songs by screen goddesses (by the way Darren, did I ever mention my encounter with Raquel Welch? If I did, I won't bore you with it again!)?





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John E

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Plus one by my current favourite female vocalist, Lavinia Blackwall of the Trembling Bells singing Sandy Denny:

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kds

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Heart, Joan Jett, Dusty Springfield, Lita Ford, Vixen, I could go on, but instead, I'll add a song from the 2013 debut of a band called Purson, lead by Rosie Cunningham

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There are a multitude of reasons why this situation exists Darren.  This attempt to rectify the numbers is artificial.

Gold  Beach Boys and the title song from even the best laid plans...[and what eventually happens to those plans]

Silver...A distant silver that is...Allison

Tied for last...Brigitte and Raquel.
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No discussion about woman in music should be complete without the Wilson sisters (no relation to Brian) from Heart.  Ann and Nancy boldly entered the "Men's Only" club of hard rock in the mid 70s.  They dealt with sexism and stereotypes, and responded with classic song after classic song, proving that women could compete in the hard rock world.  

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As a punk rock fan at the time, I was not supposed to like Heart...but I loved them.  I even wrote them a fan letter when I was a little kid.  This would have been about the time that there were peaches crates for your record albums, you could purchase from Peaches record store, and Heart had the coolest French cut-yellow shirts with the red Heart insigna on them.  I suppose they were kind of ...daringly female, but I bought and wore them anyway.  They were my first rock concert, I could not even drive yet, and I saw them several times including when they were about the only group I did not hate at the Texas Jam---at the fair grounds in Dallas, Texas.  and it was over 100F and they ran out of all sodas and ice except warm sprite.  and we had terrible sun burns.  and did I say almost every band were terrible? I mean, sheesh, even Blue Oyster Cult!   But Heart were great.   !         Then, I remember running into the locker room after football practice and getting in the shower, and we had 'Barracuda' playing loudly--but it was interrupted by the radio station to say Elvis Presley had died.    So, that must've been Jr. Varsity. 
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John,

Considering how much Led Zeppelin influenced Heart, I'm surprised you're a fan. 

What do you think of their mid 80s MTV revival? 



Also, check out Ann and Nancy's tribute to Zeppelin from the Kennedy Center a few years ago

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It's true, you got me, never liked Zep.,  I don't even like those folky songs Zep did that Prince liked like Rain song or Cashmere.   But I loved Heart until I stopped buying after 'Dog & Butterfly'.    The 80's were not my thing.   BUT, as I said, the sisters were still great on that recent live Dream Boat Annie live performance with Darian and Jeffrey as sort of co-musical directors.
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John,

Heart is one of the few remaining bands on my concert bucket list.  They're playing a double bill with Cheap Trick this summer, but the nearest venue is 100 miles away.  

I prefer the Heart 70s material, but I also like the 80s material when the hair and synths got bigger, and Nancy's necklines got lower.  
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I only saw Heart live twice.  Once with the Climax Blues Band.  But I saw Cheap Trick almost as many times as I did the Ramones.  5?  6?  something like that.  'Need your Love' was my 'I Write the Songs' concession or bathroom break!    I have three brothers and they did not like Heart.  But I always suspected it was because they did not suffer through...Nugent and Triumph and Halen etc. like I did in 105F Dallas summer with only warm sprite to drink and see Heart kick all those groups' rear-ends like I did that day. 
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Which reminds me, back to the topic.  Shortly after, maybe a year later?  there was another outdoor concert in Dallas.  It wasn't called Texas Jam II, I forget what it was called.  But it was similar, in that it was very hot, most of the groups couldn't hack it, and a group with girls was best.  The 'bad' were Bob Welch, Steve Miller, and Boston--gosh, especially Boston, they sounded nothing like their records, and they even had Heart's slot with the sun going down.  and the 'good' were Fleetwood Mac.  I remember thinking 'who is THAT'?  because Lindsey Buckingham was supposed to look like Jeff Lyne, but here he was clean shaven.  So, THEN, I thought Fleetwood Mac were great.
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Nice segue John,

Here's some Fleetwood Mac with Stevie Nicks on Vox - Dreams



And again with Christie McVie (who was close to Dennis at one time) - You Make Lovin Fun 

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Interesting selections, Darren. 

Gold -- Brigitte Bardot -- Pleasant. For those who were wondering:

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La Madrague est la célèbre propriété acquise par Brigitte Bardot en 1958 à Saint-Tropez.

Silver -- The Beach Boys -- Some of this is fine, but some isn't, to the point that I avoid listening to it. I'd have liked to see another woman this week.

Bronze -- Allison Durbin -- Predates the Dennis Wilson song.

Tin -- Raquel Welch -- I heard she doesn't swing her arms when she walks.


Quoting myself from my first week hosting:

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There's the one that got away. Or the one you never had. Love sucks if it's all in your mind... According to the Internet, this is the only single that's ever been in the top 10 of Billboard's Pop/Rock, Country, R&B and Easy Listening charts all at the same time. It reached #18 in the UK. From 1962:

I was surprised she did so well that week, but looking at the competition (a rough version of "My Diane", Elliott Smith and Fountains of Wayne), it's understandable now.

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