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paul g adsett

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i genuinely have no idea whether
i''m ahead or behind me the designated timezones.
i only know that everything is relative
and (something I've been saying here for years)
that everything connects.
it's a very new moon here in the seas,
beyond the international dateline,
beyond alaska, between farthest russia and japan.
yes the world can be more psychedelic
that any set of of popsongs...

so,
the impossible task.
the considered response:

gold: 'Strawberry Fields Forever'
- immaculate
(especially when coupled with the great macca 'b' 'side)
what a 45rpm!

silver: 'She Knows Me Too Well'
- plays with my mind each and every time...

bronze: 'A Day in the Life'
- a gold most times,.
a welded mishmash that is greater than the sum of its parts,
but, gulp, doesn't make the grade here.

tin: 'I Am the Walrus'
- what?
how?
well, it's all in the where and when.

not the 'who'.
and,
it's here and now,
so, it's here and now..
boy,
don't do that to me again!
-

 

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Cindy Hood

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Thanks for reminding me, Darren.

I'll go with:

Gold:  She Knows Me Too Well by The Beach Boys.

Silver:  A Day In The Life by the Beatles.

Bronze:  I Am The Walrus by The Beatles.

Tin:  Strawberry Fields Forever by The Beatles.







 

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Darren J. Ray

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Thanks very much to our latest voters - dancai (first ever vote), Lisa, David, Paul and Cindy. 

dancai, I thank you, and 'She Knows Me Too Well' thanks you. You are very welcome to be a regular participant in our weekly battles. The more BW aficionados on board the Battleship the better. 

Lisa, I was very curious as to how you would vote. Like me, you were a second generation listener to 'Strawberry Fields'. 

Al, thanks again for more very interesting articles on the songs. 

David, equally, I was keen to get your take on the order. And thanks for that clip. 

Paul, this week would not have been complete without you. I know you're a Beach Boys and Beatles man. And I'm stoked you're still finding time for our game whilst you're away. Safe travels. 

Thanks, Cindy.


OK, folks. Looking forward to the late runners to the polling booth, which closes in less than 12 hours. 


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Cantina Margarita

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Hi guys,

this week is like an indicator lamp what band you prefer – the guys from Liverpool, or those from Hawthorne. Two A1 songs by the Beatles, each of them undisputable gamechangers in rock music, so gold and silver are granted. Another one, A1 only for special music diggers. And – one A2 song by the Beach Boys. Most interesting: which one will be tin ???

GOLD

Strawberry Fields

Let‘s think about Oasis. They were said to be a very sixties-alike group during the 90s. Why so ? Because of their celloes, other strings, and other unusual instruments, and someone their singer tried to imitate. Where does that all come from ? See above. When people say sixties and innovative, they basically mean Strawberry Fields. This is what Oasis wanted to be. Wanted.
What‘s best on SF ? Hard to say. The pitched down lead voice sounding unbelievably arrogant (and very British :-)). The lyrics, in which there‘s really nothing to understand. The strings arrangement ? The mellotron intro ? The unbelievable drums ? The guitar licks ? The outro like a direct reply to the one from „Caroline, No“ ? Brian himself put it quite right: they got there first. And there‘s very few who got there at all.

SILVER

A Day In The Life

What can I write about this song that‘s smart and has not been written too freqently before ? Maybe one thing: it‘s too good for Sgt. Pepper. Vocals, lyrics, again the Ringo drums, production, passion curve, orchestral interludes, outro piano chord (sounds to me like noisily closing Dracula‘s coffin). Gold in almost any other selection, not containing SF, the best Brian songs, or „Tomorrow Never Knows“.

 BRONZE

I Am The Walrus

Let‘s think about „Sowing The Seeds Of Love“ by Tears For Fears. They upgraded and completed it, one of the most Beatles-alike songs I know.

„Sitting in an English garden waiting for the sun. If the sun don‘t come you get a tan from standing in the English rain“. Any more questions ? THIS is what euro guys consider British.

 

TIN

Beach Boys

No competitor at all in this case.

 So what does this guy (=me) do on the BW site ?

 Read carefully. This website is for and about Brian Wilson. Brian Wilson is not the Beach Boys. He‘s nothing less than the best songwriter and rock music producer and arranger I can think of. The Beatles were the far best band I can think of, and I don‘t believe they had a notion of it before 1980. Lennon maybe never had one.

 The Beach Boys ? They have had their qualities, but that‘s nothing compared to the Beatles.

Beach Boys and Brian songs that are serious competitors to this week‘s top 3 ? There‘s lots of them. Everybody knows what I think about BWPS and TLOS.

 Hi Frankie, very good to read you again. Is that really you, or are you just using your dad‘s nick ?

 Here‘s Sowing The Seeds.

 

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  Season 10 Week 28....


             1)A Day in the Life....one of my all time favorite songs


             2)Strawberry Fields Forever...another groundbreaking classic from The Beatles


             3)I am the Walrus...doesn't make a lick of sense but still awesome


              4)She knows me to well....but not well enough


                                                     
                                                   Lennon rules this week !!!
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Let‘s think about Oasis.


Cantina, I reacted pretty much like the classic Sesame Street martians to that:




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After agonizing all week, well, not really…this one really worked out pretty easy.  It is hard for me to choose between these two groups but my mind was made up for me.  “She Knows Me Too Well” became an incessant earworm.  So while any given Sunday the Beatles have it, not today.

   Gold – She Knows Me Too Well (The Beach Boys)
   Silver – A Day in the Life (The Beatles)
   Bronze – Strawberry Fields Forever (The Beatles)
   Tin – I Am the Walrus (The Beatles)

The two to three years of time between the songs have a large effect on my vote, too.  If an earlier Beatles song was put up against She Knows Me Too Well or if a later Beach Boys like Feel Flows was put up against the later Beatles songs here my votes may be different. Maybe not, these are all too close.

This may have beaten “She Knows Me Too Well”:
The Beatles - And I Love Her (1964) HD/HQ


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 My 11th hour votes


 GOLD - A Day in the Life.  Lyrically, it goes somewhere. Somewhere slightly unnerving, but there you go. 

 SILVER - Strawberry Fields Forever.  Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see. Cripes that's deep. 

 BRONZE - I Am the Walrus. Another incredibly deep line from the boys; Goo goo g'joob. Sometimes you have to wonder if they were just having us all on.

She Knows Me Too Well - It cannot compete and feels out of synch with the others, a bit before. Had you put IJWMFTT in, it would have given the other songs a run for their money. Why three Beatles and one BB anyway??



Thanks, Darren.



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Darren J. Ray

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Postal vote from Tom....

Reporting in briefly from just south of Dublin. This has to be one of our strongest battle competitions in a long time. My votes:

Gold — “A Day in the Life”, Beatles. An all-time Beatles classic and one of my favorite cuts from Sgt. Pepper. The hybrid of Lennon’s part and McCartney’s part is what makes this song so distinctive. Either part alone would not be nearly as strong as what these two guys could do together!

Silver — “Strawberry Fields”, Beatles. One of their very best as well, this time a standout Lennon contribution. Half of a powerhouse double A-side single with “Penny Lane” by McCartney.

Bronze — “She Knows Me Too Well”, Beach Boys. One excellent example why side two of the Today album was indicative of Brian’s Great Leap Forward toward Pet Sounds! The counterpoint between Brian’s high vocals and Mike’s low vocals, coupled with with the group’s backing vocals, is stellar.

Tin — “I Am The Walrus”, Beatles. Another Beatles classic, but not quite up to the standards of the songs above. Lennon must have had a great tongue-in-cheek time writing the lyrics to this one!

Excellent battle, Darren! And great to see that we’re able to include Beatles songs in our battles once again. The Beach Boys’ best stuff really deserves to go head-on against the best stuff of the Beatles!
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Thank you to the last of the voters. I'll comment further shortly and then post the results. 

The polling booth has now closed. No more votes will be accepted. 
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Darren J. Ray

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Thanks again to Cantina, Verden, Deb, bonnie and Tom for their considered votes. 

Cantina, you always put a lot of time into your rankings and observations. Reading your votes is a high point of my week here. 

'Tomorrow Never Knows' was on my shortlist for the week along with 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' and 'She Said She Said'. I hope hosts use these songs in time. 

How would TNK have fared? I suspect it would have been a real polariser here. 

Agree with your call out to Frankie, too. Call me sentimental, but I get chuffed when names from past battles come back; hopefully to stay awhile. And Frankie pulls no punches.

I recall when 'Sowing the Seeds of Love' came out, the critics accusing Tears for Fears of copying songs from the Pepper era. I read one of the guys rejected the claims with something about them not even being around when Pepper come out! 

Verden, always great to get the thoughts of one of the pillars of the Battle.

Deb, again and like the others, your thoughts are very respected. I'm very happy to read a preference for early Beatles and loved the clip. They didn't need make-up, but powder them off for the shine! I was mildly contemplating using 'I Don't Want to Spoil the Party', which I adore, this week. How I thought others would vote guided my decision not to. 

bonnie, thank you for yours. Always love reading you. I take it SKMTW was your Tin and not a tied Bronze. I realise I'm in the minority but I'm not a big fan of IJWMFTT.

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Why three Beatles and one BB anyway??
   

I wanted to include my favourite BB song, SKMTW, but wanted a strong contest rather than gifting it an automatic inclusion in play-offs. I love IATW even more and was keen to read others' thoughts. After 10 years plus of reading tastes here, I knew ADITL and SFF would be stiff competition. There was no theme intended. I simply wanted a tough contest that would elicit careful consideration from the participants. So why Lennon? Because McCartney songs have copped a beating here in the past. 

Tom, I tried 'liking' your votes for a second before remembering it was me who posted them, and you can't 'like' one's own posts. But thanks for going to the trouble of getting them through to me. I hope you have some joy with signing in. If not, you know I'm here. I was fascinated to get your thoughts on the order. Again, thanks for going to the trouble. 

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And great to see that we’re able to include Beatles songs in our battles once again. The Beach Boys’ best stuff really deserves to go head-on against the best stuff of the Beatles!


I second that. I noticed Beatles songs started appearing again on the net about two years ago. It seems UMG (Universal Music Group, who bought out EMI in 2012 and almost immediately slapped an internet ban on their catalogue) has relaxed its stance, at least for the time being. Indeed, all the YouTube clips I used this week were sanctioned by and sourced from UMG. For the sake of the game, I hope this situation doesn't change. Now the BB's might get some real competition.     


OK, here come the results....



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Here are the results for the week…


Gold - A Day in the Life (The Beatles - 1967) (54)
(6G, 7S, 3B + 1 three-way tie, 1T)

Silver - Strawberry Fields Forever (The Beatles - 1967) (52)
(5G, 7S, 4B + 1 three-way tie, 1T)

Bronze - She Knows Me Too Well (The Beach Boys - 1965) (40)
(5G, 2S, 3B, 8T)

Tin - I Am the Walrus (The Beatles - 1967) (34)
(2G, 1S, 7B + 1 three-way tie, 7T)


Aggregate: 180


Thanks again to the 18 voters.

And thanks very much to the ever reliable D.A.N for being my scrutineer.


Eighteen voters was the best turnout since Week 33 of last season (Al Forsyth) with the same number. The last week to eclipse it was Week 7 of last season (t Bedford) with 19.

Let’s hope these numbers can continue.


The week was put together with a few intentions.

I thought ‘She Knows Me Too Well’ deserved another run as it’s my favourite Beach Boys song and, I think, a classic.

But what could challenge it?

A Beatles song.

Great! There’s two instant play-off contenders, leaving another two songs in their wake!!!

Not fair to the other hosts.

So how about THREE Beatles songs? That makes it tough on all songs.

If my aim was to select four songs to all make their respective play-offs - which it wasn’t but it’s not a bad strategy for hosts to adopt if we’re going to be truly fair to each other - I probably failed in that respect.

I sacrificed closeness for over-indulgence - totally allowable as the host has the chair - by including my own #1 faves from the Beach Boys and Beatles and then pitting two behemoths (at least to the majority of the demographic here) against them.

And so it proved to be.

I also wanted to bring back the Beatles to the Battle with a bang. After nearly five years of pretty much not being able to use them, let’s hope UMG doesn’t spoil our fun again.

Regardless….


‘A Day in the Life’, ‘Strawberry Fields Forever’ and ‘I Am the Walrus’ make it 36 tracks from the Beatles to have been used. Of the 33 previous, 18 of these have made play-offs.


Their record:

I’ll Follow the Sun (a Silver in Week 1 of Season I, 6th in Silver Play-Off - Wow! Great Concert!),

She Loves You (a Silver in Week 3 of Season I, 2nd in Silver Play-Off, 4th in Preliminary Final - Darren J. Ray),

Here Comes the Sun (a Silver in Week 7 of Season I, 1st in Silver Play-Off, 8th in Preliminary Final - Tom Tobben),

Drive My Car (a Silver in Week 17 of Season I - Ang Jones),

Hey Jude (a Bronze in Week 19 of Season I - Cynthia D. Hood),

The Ballad of John and Yoko (a Silver in Week 21 of Season I - Domestic Animal Noises),

In My Life (a Gold in Week 34 of Season I, 7th in Preliminary Final - t Bedford),

Getting Better (a Silver in Week 36 of Season I, 7th in Silver Play-Off - mother’s little helper),

The Long and Winding Road (a Silver in Week 45 of Season I - Cynthia D. Hood),

She Came in Through the Bathroom Window (a Silver in Week 14 of Season II - Michael F. Becher),

Michelle (a Bronze in Week 19 of Season II - Michael F. Becher),

Revolution 9 (a Tin in Week 32 of Season II - t Bedford),

Help! (a Silver in Week 26 of Season III, 1st in Silver Play-Off, 4th in Preliminary Final - Kevin Witts),

Penny Lane (a Silver in Week 1 of Season IV, 1st in Silver Play-Off, 1st in Preliminary Final, 2nd - SEASON SILVER - in Gold Play-Off - Al Forsyth),

Lady Madonna (a Gold in Week 14 of Season IV - Cindy Hood),

Blackbird (a Bronze in Week 16 of Season IV - Deb#1),

Long Tall Sally (a Silver in Week 21 of Season IV, 3rd in Silver Play-Off - Al Forsyth),

If I Fell (a Gold in Week 10 of Season V, 3rd in Preliminary Final, 5th in Tin Play-Off  - Jo McGuire),

We Can Work It Out (a Gold in Week 18 of Season V, 6th in Gold Play-Off - brent mcmullen),

Back in the U.S.S.R. (a Tin in Week 21 of Season V, 1st in Tin Play-Off - Jo McGuire),

Please Mister Postman (a Silver in Week 32 of Season V - Larry Franz),

In My Life (a Gold in Week 40 of Season V, 2nd in Preliminary Final, 3rd - SEASON BRONZE - in Gold Play-Off - Tom Tobben),

For No One (a Bronze in Week 40 of Season V - Tom Tobben),

All My Loving (a Gold in Week 2 of Season VI, 2nd in Preliminary Final, 6th in Gold Play-Off - D.A.N),

Bad Boy (a Silver in Week 3 of Season VI - t Bedford),

Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End (a Gold in Week 31 of Season VI, 4th in Gold Play-Off - Tom Tobben),

If I Fell (a Gold in Week 2 of Season VII, 5th in Gold Play-Off - D.A.N),

Help! (a Silver in Week 7 of Season VII, 1st in Silver Play-Off, 5th in Preliminary Final - BrianFan),

The Ballad of John and Yoko (a Gold in Week 8 of Season VII, 9th in Gold Play-Off - Cindy Hood),

Help! (a Gold in Week 18 of Season VIII, 1st in Preliminary Final, 6th in Gold Play-Off - Deb#1),

Paperback Writer (a Silver in Week 2 of Season IX - Larry Franz),

Yesterday (a Bronze in Week 33 of Season IX - Al Forsyth),

Yellow Submarine (a Silver in Week 36 of Season IX - Cindy Hood),

A Day in the Life (a Gold in Week 28 of Season X - Darren J. Ray),

Strawberry Fields Forever (a Silver in Week 28 of Season X - Darren J. Ray),

I Am the Walrus (a Tin in Week 28 of Season X - Darren J. Ray)


That is 11 Golds, 17 Silvers, 5 Bronzes and 3 Tins (one of which, 'Back in the USSR', won a Tin Play-Off).


‘In My Life’ came 10th in the Ultimate Battle. ‘Penny Lane’ came 12th.

The solo Beatles have all made play-offs as well – Lennon (four), McCartney (two), Harrison (two) and Starr (one).

Some groups with several entries in the Battle have never made one play-off.


‘She Knows Me Too Well’ was the only song of the week that had been previously used.

It won the Silver in Week 42 of Season I (Darren J. Ray), beaten by John Lennon’s ‘Woman’, 57.5 to 55 points.

Its percentage last time was 28.95 from 19 voters.

This time, it scored 40 points and 22.22% from 18 voters.


'Bull Session With Big Daddy' remains the only track from The Beach Boys Today! not to have been used yet. (C’mon, hosts. Get it together!)

There have been eight Golds, six Silvers and two Bronzes.

The most popular song has proven to be 'Kiss Me Baby'.


The record:

Do You Wanna Dance? (a Gold in Week 9 of Season III - Verden McCutcheon; a Silver in Week 10 of Season VIII, 3rd in Silver Play-Off - Cindy Hood),

Good to My Baby (a Gold in Week 24 of Season VII - Larry Franz; a Gold in Week 27 of Season IX - t Bedford),

Don't Hurt My Little Sister (a Bronze in Week 3 of Season VI - t Bedford),

When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) (a Silver in Week 34 of Season I - t Bedford; a Gold in Week 24 of Season VI - t Bedford),

Help Me, Ronda (a Silver in Week 21 of Season II - David Wilson),

Dance, Dance, Dance (a Gold in Week 13 of Season I - Prodigal Son),

Please Let Me Wonder (a Gold in Week 39 of Season I - Roy Roger Bridge; a Gold in Week 42 of Season VIII - Al Forsyth),

I'm So Young (a Silver in Week 35 of Season III, 9th in Silver Play-Off - Sue Schlichter),

Kiss Me Baby (a Gold in Week 1 of Season I, 1st in Preliminary Final, 5th in Gold Play-Off - Wow! Great Concert!),

She Knows Me Too Well (a Silver in Week 42 of Season I - Darren J. Ray; a Bronze in Week 28 of Season X - Darren J. Ray),

In the Back of My Mind (a Silver in Week 42 of Season VI - bonnie bella)


A live version of 'Dance, Dance, Dance' also won a Silver in Week 17 of Season III (t Bedford).



‘Strawberry Fields Forever’ scored the highest points for a Silver so far this year by a stunning nine points, but its percentage of 28.89 is seventh highest so far for a Silver. It’s looking likely for its play-off. It would then give a lifeline to ‘A Day in the Life’.

No such luck for ‘She Knows Me Too Well’. Its 40 points currently places it in second spot as far as points go for Bronzes. But its percentage of just 22.22 will put it out of calculations.

The 34 points for ‘I Am the Walrus’ puts it atop the Tins for points so far. Its percentage of 18.89 is eighth highest thus far. It may sneak into its play-off.


Please continue to support our hosts, including this week from Larry.


This week is now closed.  

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