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Larry Franz

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As for my little test, one (a) votes four times, choosing song 1 or 2, then song 3 or 4, and so on or (b) gets creative and ranks all 8 in a row like our budding optometrist did, which then gets translated into votes for either song 1 or 2, then 3 or 4, then 5 or 6, then 7 or 8. Voila!

With five voters so far, we may one day reach a quorum!

Or (c): Choose a winner for just one of the pairs, e.g. 1 & 2, or 3 & 4... Or just two of the pairs, or three. It's easy. All you need is love, love, love is all you need (sure, John, very insightful).

Elliott Smith -- "Bled White" (he could rock when he felt like it)


YYY -- "Keep Off the Lawn" (the guy who made the Pet Sounds tribute album in the main forum)
youtube.com/watch?v=FRKvvkrdLQc

The Rolling Stones -- "Let's Spend the Night Together" (the young men you'd be afraid to introduce to your parents)
youtube.com/watch?v=1k9qy-c1XXk

Your every need! Oh my!


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Al Forsyth

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Larry - some songs - just very random (eight songs that can go with one another - kind of - actually against each other). 

1) I don't know if Darren or the Aussies have mentioned Stand Atlantic before but I learned out them last year:


2) Jann Arden's classic (with Anne Murray here):

Story (funny) kindred spirit - youtube.com/watch?v=5tx8J1vb9Ik


3) I've been into Steve Marriott as of late - Small Faces and Humble Pie.  He was always ahead of the curve. Soooooo:


4) Let's back to England (67-68) when things were happening:


5) Remember these guys?


6) There's a more electric version still - I used this - the original cartoon version way back when:


7) Find a live version of this and you WILL be amazed:


8) Grace and the Nocturnals a few years back


Bonus:  Where were you 57 years ago?

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OK, here to vote in Larry's four pairs battle. Too many songs, but evaluating them in pairs made it easier than trying to rank them all, or even to rank my top four. 

1. "Black and Blue", Secret Sisters. Nice song, and for me it had a throwback Everly Brothers feel, including the traditional duet harmonies.

2. "Don't Bring Me Down", ELO. I've always liked this hit song. The Stones selection from Between the Buttons, not so much.

3. "Blue Orchid", White Stripes. I like their original and quirky approach to their music. Not so much a fan of Sting's solo music or this song in particular.

4. "Meet Me in My Dreams Tonight", Brian Wilson. Far from the best song on his solo debut album but a decent song overall. By contrast, Dennis' "Baby Blue" is too monochromatic and seems to fit in with some of the other mood pieces from his solo career. The song evokes a certain ethereal mood but the music and the melody don't really seem to go anywhere.   


Will be interested to see how much interest/energy eventually gets created around the experimental new approaches to battles, and whether there will be enough battles and interest to have periodic or year-end battle playoffs. I'm in!


Al, are you asking us to rank the eight songs you posted, or did you simply post them for our information/interest? I remember a couple of the songs from previous years' battles.
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OK, here to vote in Larry's four pairs battle. Too many songs, but evaluating them in pairs made it easier than trying to rank them all, or even to rank my top four. 


Al, are you asking us to rank the eight songs you posted, or did you simply post them for our information/interest? I remember a couple of the songs from previous years' battles.


Tom, just hold off until Larry is finished.  So, for now, simply a group of songs - to support Larry's idea here. 

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Larry Franz

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Thanks to our voters, Tom, bonnie, D.A.N., paul and Al (and me). Tomorrow will be 13 days, which is plenty of time for this experiment in terror. One more voter will make it an odd number and easy to identify the four winners, otherwise I'll find a coin and flip it.

Del Shannon -- "Keep Searchin'"
youtube.com/watch?v=WEYa_rTownI

Lindsay Buckingham -- "Go Insane"
youtube.com/watch?v=jjQa5-FD72g

Death Cab For Cutie -- "A Lack of Color"
youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ_iAhXRCY

The King's College Choir of Cambridge -- "Miserere Mei, Deus" ("Have mercy on me, God") by Gregorio Allegri, circa 1638
youtube.com/watch?v=J5FlOOIrbHk


And one Al shared with us that has stayed with me for some reason:

The Beatles -- "Thank You, Girl"
youtube.com/watch?v=cGka0tXQYAI


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Larry Franz

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One more voter will make it an odd number and easy to identify the four winners, otherwise I'll find a coin and flip it.

In fact, if one more voter weighs in on Secret Sisters vs. Elliott Smith and Stones vs. ELO, the die will be cast. The other two mini-battles are reasonably resolved.

Los Lobos -- "Kiko and the Lavender Moon" (now that's a video)
youtube.com/watch?v=ornSpLMUzbw


Buffalo Springfield -- "Bluebird"

short version
youtube.com/watch?v=yQhCtyHpVB0

rare long version
youtube.com/watch?v=55q2rRh5UUU


Harry Nilsson -- "Yellow Man"
youtube.com/watch?v=IWPfWqH-oJ8


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Al Forsyth

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Larry, hope you get your ice breaker.  

This past summer - every beach day that I could get when I listened to music - one of the most important things that I was tuning in to with Beatle music was Ringo's drumming. Thank You Girl is but one example where he is crazy on the fills. He keeps it simple here but one wonders why they kept the blown lyrics. youtube.com/watch?v=nFEHqFUONHY
BUT, Mr. rhythm driver is at it again: youtube.com/watch?v=6PK21u7YzmI
Listen to Paperback Writer and tune in to only the drumming - it's amazing. The "late" snare. 
Pete Best HAD to go.  John knew it!!!!

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My votes:

#2 (Elliot Smith)
#4 (ELO)
#5 (Sting)
#8 (Brian Wilson)

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Larry Franz

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Dana -- Welcome to the board and thanks for breaking the ties, along with the ice!

Final scores:

Elliott Smith 4, The Secret Sisters 3

Electric Light Orchestra 4, The Rolling Stones 3

Sting 5, The White Stripes 2

The Beach Boys 5, Brian Wilson 2


Lord Huron
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Al, my favorite drum performance by Ringo as a member of the Beatles has to be his extended soloing on Abbey Road's "The End". Though he normally preferred to simply blend in behind the band, Ringo's drumming really stands out here when his extended drum solo comes to the forefront. 



I also really like the repeating series of guitar solos, starting at around 53 seconds into the song, first McCartney, followed by Harrison, then Lennon, all giving it their best. It's one of my all-time favorite Beatles performances, especially when sequed with "Golden Slumbers" and "Carry That Weight". Though the album credits the songwriting for "The End" to Lennon/McCartney, it was actually written by Paul. 

Here's what Wikipedia had to say about this:

 

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All four Beatles have a solo in "The End", including a Ringo Starr drum solo. Starr disliked solos, preferring to cater drumwork to whoever sang in a particular performance.[10] His solo on "The End" was recorded with twelve microphones around his drum kit; in his playing, he said he copied part of Ron Bushy's drumming on the Iron Butterfly track "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida".[11] The take in which Starr performed the solo originally had guitar and tambourine accompaniment,[6] but other instruments were muted during mixing, giving the effect of a drum solo.[12]

McCartney, George Harrison and Lennon perform a rotating sequence of three, two-bar guitar solos.[2][13] The idea for a guitar instrumental over this section was Harrison's, and Lennon suggested that the three of them each play a section.[14] The solos begin approximately 53 seconds into the song. Geoff Emerick, the Beatles' recording engineer, later recalled: "John, Paul and George looked like they had gone back in time, like they were kids again, playing together for the sheer enjoyment of it. More than anything, they reminded me of gunslingers, with their guitars strapped on, looks of steely-eyed resolve, determined to outdo one another. Yet there was no animosity, no tension at all – you could tell they were simply having fun."[15]

The first two bars are played by McCartney, the second two by Harrison, and the third two by Lennon, then the sequence repeats.[2][16] Each has a distinctive style which McCartney felt reflected their personalities. Immediately after Lennon's third solo, the piano chords of the final line "And in the end ..." begin. Then the orchestration arrangement takes over with a humming chorus and Harrison playing a final guitar solo that ends the song.

 



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Larry Franz

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Now that the best candidate for president of the US has dropped out, there is Something Else I wanted to do.

The Ink Spots -- "I Don't Want To Set the World On Fire" (1941)
youtube.com/watch?v=6l6vqPUM_FE

Fats Domino -- "I Want To Walk You Home" (1959)
youtube.com/watch?v=cXQNMHox2_s

Tony Bennett -- "I Wanna Be Around" (1962)
youtube.com/watch?v=4ml_V7HNIsY

The Beach Boys -- "Do You Wanna Dance" (1965)(instrumental and then just voices -- turn it up)
youtube.com/watch?v=SwLPggLoe4Q

Bob Dylan -- "I Want You" (1967)
youtube.com/watch?v=-iIS6ZZ9RVA

The Rolling Stones -- "I Just Want To See His Face" (1972)
youtube.com/watch?v=OGhEFiaTbSI

Weezer -- "I Don't Want To Let You Go" (2009)
youtube.com/watch?v=wb6KlomBONc

Sufjan Stevens -- "All of Me Wants All of You" (2015)
youtube.com/watch?v=Se6-q57xJCg


Regarding "I Wanna Be Around":

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[Sadie] Vimmerstedt was a grandmother and housewife (or a beautician) in Youngstown, Ohio, who sent [songwriter Johnny] Mercer an idea for the song in 1957, as well as giving Mercer the opening line ("I want to be around to pick up the pieces, when somebody breaks your heart"). She was inspired by Frank Sinatra divorcing his first wife in order to marry Ava Gardner, only to then see Gardner leave Sinatra. Not knowing exactly where to send her letter to, Vimmerstedt simply addressed it to 'Johnny Mercer...Songwriter...New York, NY'. The post office forwarded it to ASCAP, who in turn passed it along to Mercer... Mercer wrote the song and agreed to share [the credit] and 1/3 of the royalties ... with Vimmerstedt.



PS:  Sufjan Stevens -- "All of Me Wants All of You" live in London


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the number of times i've been scolded over the decades
for tapping that ringo drum dsolo
on a table / book / glass / even 'pooter screen...
it's intimately, irresistibly and irreversibly instilled in my twitchy fingernodes
and will emerge at allsorts of moments of idleness or concentration.

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just reminded of a (bit of a comedy) song
that has a somewhat appropriate title,
even if it's self-deprecating,
rather than a learned reflection on the quality of world leadership.

we're getting into serious thinking mode,
seeking to bring mr bob lind
back over for some uk dates.
he's a most delightful chap and he's still 'got it...
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