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Deb#1

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[image]  "Moderating was director Rob Reiner (echoing his fictional role as the interviewer from This Is Spinal Tap), calling on a small crowd of invited fans to offer questions to Brian Wilson, Love, Al Jardine, Mike Love, David Marks and Bruce Johnston, all looking relaxed and upbeat in white high-backed chairs. The hour-long interview will air August 10th on the satellite network’s Beach Boys channel, and promotes a new album, The Beach Boys With the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, which combines new orchestral arrangements around the original vocal tracks of Beach Boys hits."
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/brian-wilson-mike-love-and-surviving-beach-boys-put-bad-blood-aside-for-rare-interview-705085/

We'll have to wait until August to hear what was said at this summit, but there are a few moments within this Rolling Stone article to whet the appetite.  And, for perhaps many minds, quells whether this might lead to a reunion on stage, at least for now

"At Capitol, there were no signs of tension, even with a visual separation of band members’ ongoing factions, with Love, Marks and Johnston in matching classic striped shirts, while Wilson and Jardine were dressed casually. Most important, there were no announcements for further collaborations Monday, but Love told Rolling Stone after: “I never say never.”"

There are many more photos around, Smiley Smile has done a good job posting them:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=ce4815c7e9b65e6fe9ad31f43faa2c6c&topic=26046.msg638748#msg638748

I like this one:
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I haven't used my SiriusXm Radio free trial yet.  I'll be starting it this week.  If they would continue with a Beach Boys channel past this summer, I could see myself with a subscription.  I was never tempted to buy in before. It would also mean I could hear from the Mayor of Sunset Strip.
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Thank you (again) for sharing, Deb - saves me from visiting smiley-smile too much [wink].  To add to your comment, it sure looks like there are four guys in that top picture at ease with themselves and the others...and one guy who looks just a tad uncomfortable [biggrin].  To add to that guy's comment...Reunion? - Never!!  

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Thanks, bugs. I read all kinds of stuff. I think discussion can be somewhat freer over on a private board like Smiley Smile. I scan it and even PS Forum for info. I ignore a lot on both as well.

Mike's fu manchu mustache gives the appearance that he is scowling in some of the photos I've seen. The one at the top of my post is ok, but you can see the effect in the lower one with Rodney.

If, and IF AND ONLY IF, a cooperative, respectful on all sides deal is reached should another reunion happen. It is a lot to ask at this point it seems. I think Brian loves The Beach Boys as a mother loves a baby. I would love to see the group's final legacy be one of true harmony especially for his sake if it could happen. But I don't think Brian or Melinda should take any guff to make that happen.

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Another summary of the July 30 get together (to be aired on August 10). The "seven highlights" the headline mentions aren't newsworthy.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8468014/beach-boys-siriusxm-town-hall-recap

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A few minutes ago (~ 5.15 BST (UK) Thursday 2nd) Mr Jardine wrote on Facebook (and Tweeted) ...

"Had a great time at The Beach Boys SiriusXM Radio Town Hall meeting at Capitol Records, thanks to everyone involved--hopefully this'll lead to bigger and better things!" --
Al Jardine

N
ow, let's think.  You're a life-long Beach Boy. What can be "bigger and better"?
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Bigger and better is entirely subjective. For Al, it might be another reunion or album. For other life-long Beach Boys (and really the only life-long Beach Boy is Mike Love - the others haven't been calling themselves that until the C50) it might be to each go their own way.

For me bigger and better would be for Brian to call himself and his band Brian Wilson's Band and for them to play a wide variety of Brian's best music, including but certainly not limited to, the summer hits.
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Thank you (again) for sharing, Deb - saves me from visiting smiley-smile too much [wink].  To add to your comment, it sure looks like there are four guys in that top picture at ease with themselves and the others...and one guy who looks just a tad uncomfortable [biggrin].  To add to that guy's comment...Reunion? - Never!!  


Just like to second bugs's opinion. It went wrong last time and who is to say it wouldn't go wrong again. Brian must love what The Beach Boys achieved and in a way of course he will always be a, or rather THE Beach Boy because the music really was his brainchild. What the band has become is not what it once was though, and whilst I'm sure Brian getting back onboard would improve it's legacy I wouldn't want to take the risk of yet another debacle. I'm biased, I admit. I don't like Mike Love's style and IMO he has nothing to add to the performance and little to add lyrically judging by his contributions to TWGMTR. 
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The risk of another debacle is indeed high. It's the "better" part of "bigger and better" that counts. I don't see Mike leaving his ego behind. A no go showboat, indeed.
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For the life of me, I can not understand the opposition to a final reunion. As one of them once said (I think Mike), the sum of the group is greater than the parts. They are The Beach Boys. Let them play together and I think 98% of the fan base would be thrilled. Brian's great band misses the voices of Mike and Bruce (as well as Mike's showmanship). Mike's band misses Al's wonderful voice and of course Brian's presence. David makes any performance better by his contributions.

What really happened with all of the back and forth after 2012 will never be factually confirmed. Let it go.

In his 2004 Op-Ed in The New York Times on SMile, the author Verlyn Klinkenborg spoke of the band's catalogue..."And what still makes those songs matter, apart from their beauty, is the fact that they were sung by  The Beach Boys...The timbre of those voices, singing together, is virtually a native American idiom..They [The Beach Boys] shred his [Brian's] naïve sense of humor. They sang what he taught them to sing. They gave his songs a vocal identity that is as instantly recognizable as the songs themselves."

Maybe I am swimming upstream when I say "I want to hear The Beach Boys--the whole gang--one more time before we all call it quits." I want to hear those wonderful songs sung by those wonderful voices all playing their long-designated parts; one more time. I want to see Al and Mike and Bruce and David (ok, Blondie too) surrounding Brian on the piano; one more time. Because, together they are better than apart, and together is what they were meant to be.


But I suspect not.
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Brian's "naïve" sense of humor.  Compared to Klinkinberg's which is, uh...sophisticated and urbane...and "shred" ?   the Group "shred" Brian's humor?   "Shred"?  sorry, those are nose up in the air insults that makes me not care about anything else he said.  
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The danger of typing instead of copying and pasting:

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They shared his naïve sense of humor. 


The article is about the author's preference for the original Smile. The sentence occurs in the third paragraph from the bottom. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/18/opinion/brian-wilson-and-the-significance-of-an-abandoned-masterpiece.html

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For the life of me, I can not understand the opposition to a final reunion. As one of them once said (I think Mike), the sum of the group is greater than the parts. They are The Beach Boys. Let them play together and I think 98% of the fan base would be thrilled. Brian's great band misses the voices of Mike and Bruce (as well as Mike's showmanship). Mike's band misses Al's wonderful voice and of course Brian's presence. David makes any performance better by his contributions.

What really happened with all of the back and forth after 2012 will never be factually confirmed. Let it go.

In his 2004 Op-Ed in The New York Times on SMile, the author Verlyn Klinkenborg spoke of the band's catalogue..."And what still makes those songs matter, apart from their beauty, is the fact that they were sung by  The Beach Boys...The timbre of those voices, singing together, is virtually a native American idiom..They [The Beach Boys] shred his [Brian's] naïve sense of humor. They sang what he taught them to sing. They gave his songs a vocal identity that is as instantly recognizable as the songs themselves."

Maybe I am swimming upstream when I say "I want to hear The Beach Boys--the whole gang--one more time before we all call it quits." I want to hear those wonderful songs sung by those wonderful voices all playing their long-designated parts; one more time. I want to see Al and Mike and Bruce and David (ok, Blondie too) surrounding Brian on the piano; one more time. Because, together they are better than apart, and together is what they were meant to be.


But I suspect not.

Miss Mikes showmanship?
You do realize that is half the reason he is referred to as a d bag?
His out of control ego is the other remaining 50%
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Just like to second bugs's opinion. It went wrong last time and who is to say it wouldn't go wrong again. Brian must love what The Beach Boys achieved and in a way of course he will always be a, or rather THE Beach Boy because the music really was his brainchild. What the band has become is not what it once was though, and whilst I'm sure Brian getting back onboard would improve it's legacy I wouldn't want to take the risk of yet another debacle. I'm biased, I admit. I don't like Mike Love's style and IMO he has nothing to add to the performance and little to add lyrically judging by his contributions to TWGMTR. 

Let’s third his opinion. The 2012 reunion proved that Love was never going to change, even before he butchered it for good he was his usual ornery jaded humorless self in interviews with his subtle digs at Brian
and Dennis,heaping praise onto himself every chance he could.
Brian’s past quote sums it up best “ I can’t stand to be in the same room with the guy for more than 10 minutes” Why would any real fan of Brian’s subject him to this ego maniac one more time?
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I remember another quote of Brian's about not wanting to have your foot in the fire for too long. Perhaps they can get by together for a short time but it seems to me that the history means it is likely to go wrong at some point. I also hate the digs at Brian and Dennis - it was a less than tactful and compassionate remark of Mike's about Dennis on the 30th anniversary of Dennis's death that made me use my current profile photograph (a picture of Dennis surfing I got on FB and my sister adapted against a background of space).

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For the life of me, I can not understand the opposition to a final reunion. As one of them once said (I think Mike), the sum of the group is greater than the parts. They are The Beach Boys. Let them play together and I think 98% of the fan base would be thrilled. Brian's great band misses the voices of Mike and Bruce (as well as Mike's showmanship). Mike's band misses Al's wonderful voice and of course Brian's presence. David makes any performance better by his contributions.

What really happened with all of the back and forth after 2012 will never be factually confirmed. Let it go.

In his 2004 Op-Ed in The New York Times on SMile, the author Verlyn Klinkenborg spoke of the band's catalogue..."And what still makes those songs matter, apart from their beauty, is the fact that they were sung by  The Beach Boys...The timbre of those voices, singing together, is virtually a native American idiom..They [The Beach Boys] shred his [Brian's] naïve sense of humor. They sang what he taught them to sing. They gave his songs a vocal identity that is as instantly recognizable as the songs themselves."

Maybe I am swimming upstream when I say "I want to hear The Beach Boys--the whole gang--one more time before we all call it quits." I want to hear those wonderful songs sung by those wonderful voices all playing their long-designated parts; one more time. I want to see Al and Mike and Bruce and David (ok, Blondie too) surrounding Brian on the piano; one more time. Because, together they are better than apart, and together is what they were meant to be.


But I suspect not.


If Mike really believes that the sum of the group is greater than its parts, then why on earth did he handle the end of the C50 the way he did? What happened will never be factually confirmed? I think it pretty much already has been and some of it we all know from our own experience. We know for example that Mike made some seriously silly comments about over-exposure and annoyed The Eagles management with a comment about a show they'd done with low ticket prices. That show was in 1975 - I know, I was there, and so were The Beach Boys.

What makes the songs great is they were well written and of course the Beach Boys' vocals were excellent.... back then. Carl, one of, if not the, best voice in the band is no longer with us, sadly. Dennis has gone too. Neither Mike nor Bruce sound particularly good any more and Mike plays little other than the tambourine.

The reason for the opposition to a reunion is Mike's behaviour towards Brian. It has made Mike extremely unpopular in some quarters - probably more so than with Brian because Mike is Brian's cousin and there are some good memories as well as bad ones.

It's not my call but IMO Brian doesn't need it and the fans want it mainly for nostalgia reasons.
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