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kaycee0101

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Hi all...

I bought a new car about one month ago that came with a free trial of Sirius XM. Today I was driving and listening to the Beach Boys channel. I was BLOWN away on how it sounded coming through. I never expected to hear all the subtle sounds and totally different versions of some of the songs. They even had some material that Brian had done outside of the Beach Boys. Such a generous soul. Really took me to another place for a while. As far as them having another reunion, I wouldn't want to miss that like I did in 2012. There is something to be said in hearing those original voices together. I try to look past all of the politics and focus on the music. This is how I see it. Great Art is always controversial in some way. I think if there was a chance, Brian would have to be the one to push for it. If he says yes, who am I to argue? I wish Carl and Dennis were here too...Man that would be so[crazy][love] ....

wow look at this picture!

https://esquarterly.com/2018/08/02/the-beach-boys-reunite-for-what-mike-love-calls-special-and-unforgettable/
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For the life of me, I can not understand the opposition to a final reunion.


I think it'd be safe to say that very few of us are even close to being interested in seeing Brian get schtooped just-a one last time.  Multiply bitten thrice shy.   Sooner or later ya gotta learn from history.
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The last time around Mike wouldn't even let Brian sing Summer's Gone until the Royal Albert Hall concert where Brian persisted. Squabbles and egos. I don't want more of that.
Maybe if, for instance, Mike expanded the shirt line to make it a true Beach Boy tribute...put Brian, Al, David, and Bruce on their own shirts with their own cuffs, it would be a gesture to indicate that something has changed. That he is willing to cede singular control and has the group in mind. But, oh, wait then, Mike would have to give up the limelight and some cash. All no no's for Mike.

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For the life of me, I can not understand the opposition to a final reunion. As one of them once said (I think Mike), the sum of the group is greater than the parts. They are The Beach Boys. Let them play together and I think 98% of the fan base would be thrilled. Brian's great band misses the voices of Mike and Bruce (as well as Mike's showmanship). Mike's band misses Al's wonderful voice and of course Brian's presence. David makes any performance better by his contributions.

What really happened with all of the back and forth after 2012 will never be factually confirmed. Let it go.

In his 2004 Op-Ed in The New York Times on SMile, the author Verlyn Klinkenborg spoke of the band's catalogue..."And what still makes those songs matter, apart from their beauty, is the fact that they were sung by  The Beach Boys...The timbre of those voices, singing together, is virtually a native American idiom..They [The Beach Boys] shred his [Brian's] naïve sense of humor. They sang what he taught them to sing. They gave his songs a vocal identity that is as instantly recognizable as the songs themselves."

Maybe I am swimming upstream when I say "I want to hear The Beach Boys--the whole gang--one more time before we all call it quits." I want to hear those wonderful songs sung by those wonderful voices all playing their long-designated parts; one more time. I want to see Al and Mike and Bruce and David (ok, Blondie too) surrounding Brian on the piano; one more time. Because, together they are better than apart, and together is what they were meant to be.


But I suspect not.

Lee, LGA, and Ang – Thanks for reminding Back Home of (just some of) the many ‘abnormalities, peculiarities and provocations’ of Mr. Love. 

Back Home - What in the world makes you think “Brian’s great band misses the voices of Mike and Bruce”?!?  For starters, it’s obvious (and natural) that the vocal ranges of these 75-year-olds are nowhere near their peaks, and that these men depend greatly on those around them (despite what Mr. Love recently said about his "immensely improved vocal capacity" now that he’s "almost vegan" [biggrin]).  The only one reproducing his vocals impressively is (the unnatural) Al, and Brian already has him!  So saying the sum of Brian Wilson, his music, and his band is worth more when Michael Edward Love is along for the ride is just bad math.  The only thing he (repeatedly) brings to the table is trouble.

More succinctly, Rob Scheffield of Rolling Stone summed up their relationship in his September 27, 2016 review of the two memoirs  “two California boys who never should have been in the same room, much less trapped together for life”.

98%?!?  Hardly.


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Lee, LGA, and Ang – Thanks for reminding Back Home of (just some of) the many ‘abnormalities, peculiarities and provocations’ of Mr. Love. 

Back Home - What in the world makes you think “Brian’s great band misses the voices of Mike and Bruce”?!?  For starters, it’s obvious (and natural) that the vocal ranges of these 75-year-olds are nowhere near their peaks, and that these men depend greatly on those around them (despite what Mr. Love recently said about his "immensely improved vocal capacity" now that he’s "almost vegan" [biggrin]).  The only one reproducing his vocals impressively is (the unnatural) Al, and Brian already has him!  So saying the sum of Brian Wilson, his music, and his band is worth more when Michael Edward Love is along for the ride is just bad math.  The only thing he (repeatedly) brings to the table is trouble.

More succinctly, Rob Scheffield of Rolling Stone summed up their relationship in his September 27, 2016 review of the two memoirs  “two California boys who never should have been in the same room, much less trapped together for life”.

98%?!?  Hardly.



It’s just the absolute truth that anything ever resembling a beach boys tour ended in 1997 and took a huge hit in 1983. Maybe the 2012 reunion got Brian to write a few good songs for the album but little else suggests that it was a real Beach Boy’s concert tour, that just cannot ever happen again.
Some fans can call for it all they want but everyone in Brian’s camp knows that it just isn’t going to happen ever again. M.L. is toxic and Brian has absolutely nothing to gain by clashing daily with this guy.
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I've been thinking about this and I believe that one of the problems we haven't yet mentioned in detail is that the balance has changed. When Dennis and Carl were alive they reduced Mike's role in the band to some extent. Carl was taking a lot of the vocals and his voice was so beautiful that it certainly surpassed Mike's. Dennis got masses of attention because of his attractiveness, charisma and wild behaviour. And Dennis also challenged Mike. With these two brothers gone, the balance has changed for the worst. Brian is not a very dominant person on stage, especially when with Mike. He tends to mainly keep his head down and talks even less than in his own tours. We also see a situation in which the selection of songs is different. This is perhaps less noticeable nowadays then it would have been earlier in Brian's solo career, when he was doing more of his own material. Perhaps that is because as Brian has improved his standing with US fans, he has tended to do more typically Beach Boys' material, especially after the C50.

Those who want a(nother) reunion need to bear this in mind too. The cake doesn't have the same ingredients so it is going to taste very different than in the old days and even since the C50.

I would like to thank Deb 1, bugs, LGA and Lee too. I love the Rob Scheffield quote! What all four of you have written is IMO spot on.
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Deb 1's idea of Mike expanding his shirt line is interesting. I'm not convinced of Mike's talents in this capacity but as an alternative to another reunion I'd certainly consider it!
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This is one of my favorite videos....





Age is definitely just a number...[love]
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As is weight. [angel]
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