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Professor Rock

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i have now read Mike's and Brian's books. I thought that they were both decent reads, but for different reasons.  Brian was painfully honest about his mental illness and Mike seemed to be honest about his own shortcomings(SURPRISE). Brian talks about the actual music much more than Mike did and again, no real surprise in that. Mike droned on about songwriting credits too much, whereas Brian barely mentioned this. Both men gave the other praise at times. In the end, I must say that I enjoyed Brian's book a lot more.  My only criticism is that Brian tended to jump around an awful lot, whereas Mike's book was more linear in it's approach. This is a minor quibble, though.
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Lee Marshall

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It's the explanation and clarification in a shockingly honest book versus the whining and whimpering in the shock effect version which spells the difference.

The one story we thought we knew revealed so much more and really re-painted a previously available yet quite inaccurate picture.  The other version reiterated a bunch of stories the author has verbalized and litigated ad infinitum over these past TOO many years ... accented with a handful of surprises tossed in to further affirm a reputation pretty much set in cement.

A lack of interest in the musical side of things suggests that it isn't, nor has it really ever been, an area of expertise for that specific 'author'.  [claims to the contrary aside.]  The proof is in the [NOT] putting. [it in]
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I'm really looking forward to getting Brian's book, and it sounds interesting not being in chronological order.  
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Billy C

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It is, Bonnie, and the non-chronological order actually helps it IMHO. 

The chapters seem to be tied in to subjects/themes.
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Gerry B.

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It's the explanation and clarification in a shockingly honest book versus the whining and whimpering in the shock effect version which spells the difference.

The one story we thought we knew revealed so much more and really re-painted a previously available yet quite inaccurate picture.  The other version reiterated a bunch of stories the author has verbalized and litigated ad infinitum over these past TOO many years ... accented with a handful of surprises tossed in to further affirm a reputation pretty much set in cement.

A lack of interest in the musical side of things suggests that it isn't, nor has it really ever been, an area of expertise for that specific 'author'.  [claims to the contrary aside.]  The proof is in the [NOT] putting. [it in]
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Gerry B.

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Brian's book comes from a humble heart. Love''s comes from an empty soul.
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Lee Marshall

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Brian's book comes from a humble heart. Love''s comes from an empty soul.


So sad regarding the latter.  What a WASTE.  What a fool.  And it's NOBODY'S fault but his.  For shame.
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Gerry B.

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Lee,
It is very sad.
I just returned from an international work meeting. We could have hired Mike Love as a speaker -- for $10,000.00, no less -- but, I squashed it. No way I'm gonna have a douchebag speak to my group.
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Let'sgoaway

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Lee,
It is very sad.
I just returned from an international work meeting. We could have hired Mike Love as a speaker -- for $10,000.00, no less -- but, I squashed it. No way I'm gonna have a douchebag speak to my group.


Probably a little crass but no need to insults DB's.
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Lee Marshall

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Lee, It is very sad. I just returned from an international work meeting. We could have hired Mike Love as a speaker -- for $10,000.00, no less -- but, I squashed it. No way I'm gonna have a douchebag speak to my group.


I saw 'Love' in action in that regard in the fall of 2014.  He's not good at it.  He just kind of wings it.  Or so it seems/sounds.  He could be quite good as a guest speaker if he put some time into preparing a presentation...and then buffing and polishing it.  The truth is he really and truly is not a great public speaker.  There is no schtick to lean on...no songs to really dance around.  It's just the stark and apparently debilitating reality of being stared at by a varying sized group who are interested in reminiscing about a time in their lives which mattered.  He needs to learn how to TALK to a group of people.  He has a sort of embarrassed sounding mumble/mutter which is close to sleep inducing.  His vocal presentation has no life or flourish or nuance to it.  He just sort of utters and spews.

Mike really needs someone to help him put THAT together if he wants to be successful and in demand in terms of speaking engagements.  He's not good at rounding the talking points into shape and then presenting the 'goods' either.  Most importantly...if he wants to be held in high esteem in this regard...he really needs to get that HE is NOT the STAR of the story.  The STORY is.  Period.  The end.

He should also take his hat off when National Anthems are played.  Social graces?  Maybe not.
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 He has a sort of embarrassed sounding mumble/mutter which is close to sleep inducing.  His vocal presentation has no life or flourish or nuance to it.  He just sort of utters and spews.


so his speaking voice is the same as his singing voice?
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Lee Marshall

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[rofl]


Good one.  No...his speaking voice...or should I say his public speaking voice... is way less effective.  He doesn't have that specific 'show' rehearsed let alone anywhere near 'down'...yet.  And he likely never will.  He's, in spite of the potential content factor, simply boring.SaveSave
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Let'sgoaway

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So you were not impressed with the HOF speech?
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Lee Marshall

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Was anyone?
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Cantina Margarita

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I don't quite get this here. Mike Love or Macca or Ringo or Brian W. or what elder rock star ever as a speaker on enterprise events. What a bizarre idea to even think about it.
I'm the last one here to defend ML in any way, but please consider we're talking about elderly gentlemen here who never won a nobel price for sophisticated economy related rhetorics. What do you expect from them ?

Strange idea ... but why not take the money if people are weird enough to pay for it ...
Oh, the Brian book. I got it for Christmas. Yet no time to read it due to too many useless work meetings.
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