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Darren J. Ray

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Happy New Year, everyone.

Well, we’re at that time again, when we look back at the year that was in the Battle and acknowledge songs that proved a hit with voters.

After 45 weeks, including one rest week, welcome to the Season VII Battle of the Bands Play-Off Week 1.

This week we re-visit the most popular of the least popular songs used this past season - the ones that were voted last in their respective weeks - the Tin, the Participant, the Pewter, the fourth place.

The hosts who selected these 10 songs should probably be congratulated, perhaps more so than in any other week, as they obviously picked very even songs in their weeks for their last placed songs to make it this far.

As some people may not be sure of how the play-offs are determined, please refer to BATTLE OF THE BANDS GUIDELINES (including how play-offs work), currently located on page 3 of this forum, or feel free to ask here.

If any host wishes to know where your choices finished in the rankings, by all means drop me a line at or just ask away here.

Incidentally, in case you’re not aware, all Season VII results are also currently locatable on page 3 of this section.

So without further ado, here are the best of the worst (and your choices for this week).

Tennessee Whiskey (Chris Stapleton - 2015) (42 votes, 23.33%) (Week 11 - Tom Tobben)

Fever (The McCoys - 1965) (40, 19.05) (Week 19 - t Bedford)

Me and the Elephants (Bobby Goldsboro - 1977) (49, 22.27) (Week 20 - Darren J. Ray)

Girls Just Want to Have Fun (Cyndi Lauper - 1983) (44, 22.00) (Week 24 - Larry Franz)

Here She Comes (The Beach Boys - 1972) (43, 22.63) (Week 27 - bonnie bella)

My World Is Empty Without You (The Supremes - 1965) (39.5, 19.75) (Week 28 - Al Forsyth)

Keepin’ the Summer Alive (The Beach Boys - 1980) (41, 21.58) (Week 31 - Cindy Hood)

Honey (Bobby Goldsboro - 1968) (37, 21.76) (Week 33 - Cindy Hood)

Living for the City (single edit) (Stevie Wonder - 1973) (38, 20.00) (Week 36 - Larry Franz)

Crazy Horses (The Osmonds - 1972) (43, 20.48) (Week 37 - Darren J. Ray)

The clips have been posted below.

Throughout the play-offs, I will list all links previously used by the respective hosts excepting where clips have been taken down for copyright infringement.

I have sought the approval of substitute clips from the hosts whose selections this has affected.

All clips this week are the originals used by the hosts.

Two of the songs currently have multiple clips due to copyright infringement blocking certain clips in some countries.

The clip for ‘Fever’ did not work in Canada in t’s Week 19. If our Canadian voters can find a satisfactory substitute, please post it here.

Now if any of these links do not work for you, just let me know and we’ll endeavour to find an alternative clip.

As per previous seasons, I ask you to vote using either one of three methods.

Ideally, people will vote 1-10 (in their order of preference).

If this appeals to you, you can copy and paste the titles (just below) into your post and put next to each song your order (1 = favourite song, 10 = least favourite song).

Otherwise, feel free to just vote for your top 3 or top 5 in order. (The songs you don't rate will then be allotted equal points of the remainder.)

Incidentally, this week’s winner does not progress. We are searching for only the ultimate Gold, Silver & Bronze songs of the year.

See you next Monday (with the results).

We will then venture into the Battle of the Bronzes.

Tennessee Whiskey
Me and the Elephants
Girls Just Want to Have Fun
Here She Comes
My World Is Empty Without You
Keepin’ the Summer Alive
Living for the City
Crazy Horses

Tennessee Whiskey (Chris Stapleton - 2015)

Fever (The McCoys - 1965)

Me and the Elephants (Bobby Goldsboro - 1977)

Girls Just Want to Have Fun (Cyndi Lauper - 1983)

Here She Comes (The Beach Boys - 1972)

My World Is Empty Without You (The Supremes - 1965)

Keepin’ the Summer Alive (The Beach Boys - 1980)

Honey (Bobby Goldsboro - 1968)

Living for the City (single edit) (Stevie Wonder - 1973)

Crazy Horses (The Osmonds - 1972)

Tom Tobben

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Late to the parade last week, so jumping right in for this week's Tin playoffs, since all songs are already familiar from this past year's battles. My rankings from top to bottom of these "best of the worst" songs:

1. "Living for the City", Stevie Wonder. One of Stevie's all-time classics from his peak creative years, and one of my personal favorites by Stevie.  

2. "Tennessee Whiskey", Chris Stapleton. A big year and big album for Stapleton, including this bluesy interpretation of the old twangy George Jones country classic.

3. "Girls Just Want to Have Fun", Cyndi Lauper. Fun hit song from this "so unusual" star from the 80s.

4. "My World Is Empty Without You", Supremes. They were SO big during the 60s and this was one of their many big hits, but for some reason this song now sounds dated to me.

5. "Honey", Bobby Goldsboro. His all-time biggest hit, but a bit too saccharine for me. Given the rest of this week's playoff competition, it comes in a respectable #5 in my rankings.

6. "Here She Comes", Beach Boys. OK, but one of the lesser songs from the Carl & The Passions album. Too much Blondie and Ricky, perhaps, and not enough contribution from the original group members on this one. 

7. "Fever", McCoys. Too bad the McCoys didn't show more originality on this otherwise classic song. Sounds too much like a rehash of their big #1 charting hit, "Hang On Sloopy". A one trick pony group, perhaps, despite the budding talents of a young Rick Derringer?

8. "Keepin’ the Summer Alive", Beach Boys. A poor song from a mediocre album. The Randy Bachman influence on this song is distracting and Mike Love's bass "doot-doot-doot doo-doot" ("don't f... with the formula") rehash from the early Beach Boys' lackluster cover of "Louie, Louie" is abysmal. Beach Boys stuck in solid concrete.

9. "Me and the Elephants", Bobby Goldsboro. Bobby way past his '60s prime, and only saved from the bottom rung here by:

10. "Crazy Horses", Osmonds. The first few times I heard this song, it seemed a refreshing rocked-up change from the Osmonds' earlier sappy ballads and cover songs. But after a while, it really started to grate on me. Lipstick on a pig? Oh, well, different strokes for different folks, as they say.

Darren, thanks for all you do to compile the weekly results over the year and to manage us through the annual year-end playoffs! Looking forward to the upcoming playoff weeks, as the quality of the music and level of competition gets better and better.

Cindy Hood

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Tennessee Whiskey -5
Fever - 7
Me and the Elephants - 9
Girls Just Want to Have Fun - 1
Here She Comes - 6
My World Is Empty Without You - 3
Keepin’ the Summer Alive - 2
Honey - 8
Living for the City - 4
Crazy Horses - 10

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Al Forsyth

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In descending order – worst to first

10h place  Crazy Horses (ugh)

9 Keepin’ the Summer Alive (baaad 80’s from the lost Beach Boys)

8 Me and the Elephants (dunno)

7 Here She Comes (starts out nicely and jammy)

6 Fever (clichéd)

5. Tennessee Whiskey (Some good ole country)

4 Girls Just Want To Have Fun-hun (Cindy – She’s So Unusual – nice album from the MTV era)

3 Honey (yeah, I know it’s sappy, but it was great!)

2 Livin’ For the City (greater)

1st My World Is Empty Without You (Motown in full form)

I'm aware that this may not show around the world, but if you can find the studio version of this (of course not really, but the intent is there)

A diamond necklace played the pawn...
Lee Marshall

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 First...and Golden...Stevie during a 5 album span of utter brilliance.  Livin’ For the City.  Fullfillingness in the First Key of Life.

2ND...and silver...The McCoys.  I prefer this to Hang on Sloopy.  Next to Little Willie John...THIS is THE version of the classic  Fever.

3RD...Bronzed by a baby boot's tiny toe.  Beach Boys.  While they were still meaningful.  Here She Comes.  They were heading in the right direction in order to sustain relevancy.  But not for much longer.

4th...The best of the worst...I was never a Diane Ross fan.  She sounded like an oboe [although her Lady Sings the Blues performances sounded truly excellent.]  My World Is Empty Without You.

5th...I like it some.  It's certainly better than the next 5.  But what the heck were they doing?  They had no sense of direction.  Creativity was oh so limited.  Factions meant fractions and the whole premise was powered by bull-ecrement and a receding hairline.  Keepin’ the Summer Alive?  Ya right.

6th...Now the pickings get ever-so thin.  Crazy Horses...Osmonds.  At least they tried...sort of.

7th...Tennessee Whiskey...Cause I need a double at this point.   Tennessee Whiskey...'cause a bird does not fly on one wing alone.  Hic..............cup!!!  Here's to Chris Stapleton.

8th...but only 'cause the next two are barf festivals.  Cindy's ditty...Girls Just Want To Have Fun.  [Maybe if I was a girl?  I'm not.]  Contrived and made for video [eyes] not audio [ears].

9th...Me and the Elephants.  This would be last if it wasn't for Bobby's other elephant in the room.

11th... Honey.  So lousy.  So awful.  So retch-fetching that I can't even award Goldsboro 10th place.



Peter Simpson

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7.Tennessee Whiskey
9.Me and the Elephants
1.Girls Just Want to Have Fun
4.Here She Comes
2.My World Is Empty Without You
10.Keepin’ the Summer Alive
6 Honey
3.Living for the City
5.Crazy Horses
Darren J. Ray

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1. Me and the Elephants (Bobby Goldsboro - 1977)
Never a question. Easily in my Top 50 records of all time. Such a sentimental but cute song. Written by Benny Whitehead and recorded by a lot of acts, including Gene Cotton, George Hamilton IV, Charlie Landsborough and Cilla Black. Clever lyrics. ‘Ann Landers’ and ‘Dear Abby’ were actually identical twin sisters. You have to love that unexpected F minor chord (or it is a minor 6th) near the end of the chorus.

2. Honey (Bobby Goldsboro - 1968)
Am I a Bobby Goldsboro fan? Nah, I just like a couple of his songs. My hardest choice this week was sorting out numbers 2 and 3. This is touching. The part about the puppy breaks my heart. Yet it contains one of the most unrealistic lines ever in a song, when she wrecks his car and he dismisses it with, ‘What the heck’!!!!!

3. Crazy Horses (The Osmonds - 1972)
Only became aware of it about 10 years ago. Kudos for the choreography, the perfect teeth, the perfect hair, the balls and the lead guitarist looking like James Page. And all with no drummer. PS I'm the kinda guy who likes Celine Dion's version of 'You Shook Me All Night Long' too.

4. My World Is Empty Without You (The Supremes - 1965)
The whole combination of the Holland-Dozier-Holland, great house band and vocals is irresistible. That horn arrangement! Great feel. Vital. Not a Diane Ross fan, and tend to think Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard got the rough end of the pineapple, but….

5. Girls Just Want to Have Fun (Cyndi Lauper - 1983)
I bought the She’s So Unusual LP in January, ‘84. This was not one of my fave tracks on it. Overplayed? Yes. Eighties? Iconically. Better idea than Madonna? Definitely! A palatable Yoko Ono with a whiny New York accent! Saw Cyndi live in concert circa ’87. Strong voice and great legs!

6. Keepin’ the Summer Alive (The Beach Boys - 1980)
Very trying. Even Carl’s voice and the kitchen sink doesn’t save this. The best part of it is the tag near the end.

I gave the rest of these my Tin in their weeks…

7. Here She Comes (The Beach Boys - 1972)
This album is a grind for me to listen to. There’s worse on it than this, though. 

8. Fever (The McCoys - 1965)
Not inspired to play this on high rotation.

9. Living for the City (single edit) (Stevie Wonder - 1973)
Stevie Wonder doesn’t press my buttons either. I know the talent is there but that doesn’t make it easy on my ears. But at least this is better than…

10. Tennessee Whiskey (Chris Stapleton - 2015)
Yep, it’s a song. A Boring one. Sounds like ‘Misty Blue’ on valium. I really cannot handle this type of music. Quick, let’s find another bar.






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1. The McCoys - Fever. Obviously, the most rocking record here (do I have to say IMHO?), not to mention the most sexual innuendo.

2. Stevie Wonder - Living for the City. When Stevie flowered...the blossoms were beautiful.

3. The Osmonds - Crazy Horses. Like Darren, wasn't aware of this until this century. I like it.

4. Cyndi Lauper - Girls Just Want to Have Fun. An anthem for the ladies....hold the Madonna.

5. Beach Boys - Here She Comes. It was a "that's more like it" album for me.

6. The Supremes - My World Is Empty Without You. A great record, even if overexposed.

7. Bobby Goldsboro - Me and the Elephants. What's that big boring thing in the room?

8. Chris Stapleton - Tennessee Whiskey. Extra points for the real accent, but it doesn't save this snorer.

9. Bobby Goldsboro - Honey. I have probably never heard even half of this record, if you get my drift.

10. Beach Boys - Keepin’ the Summer Alive. Sprinkle on a few extra cliches, please. Yuck. Double yuck.

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Darren J. Ray

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As has become customary during this week, here is the countdown to the worst performed songs of the year:

10th. Bleeding Heart (Regina Spektor - 2016) (29.5 votes, 16.39%; 0 Golds, 0 Silvers, 11 Bronzes + 1 shared, 6 Tins) (Week 42)

9th. Student Demonstration Time (The Beach Boys - 1971) (32, 15.24; 0 Golds, 3 Silvers, 5 Bronzes, 13 Tins) (Week 26)

8th. Wheeling West Virginia (Neil Sedaka - 1969) (32, 15.24; 0 Golds, 0 Silvers + 1 shared, 9 Bronzes + 1 shared, 10 Tins) (Week 25)

7th. I Wonder (The Ronettes - 1964) (32.5, 14.77; 1 Gold, 0 Silver + 1 shared, 6 Bronzes, 14 Tins) (Week 14)

6th. Knowing Me, Knowing You (Wondermints - 1996) (30, 15.00; 0 Golds, 4 Silvers, 2 Bronzes, 14 Tins) (Week 6)

5th. Collideascope (The Dukes of Stratosphear - 1987) (26, 16.25; 1 Gold, 2 Silvers, 3 Bronzes, 10 Tins) (Week 34)

4th. River (Gentle Giant - 1972) (27, 15.00; 0 Golds, 2 Silvers, 5 Bronzes, 11 Tins) (Week 4)

3rd. People Who Died (The Jim Carroll Band - 1980) (28, 14.00; 0 Golds, 1 Silver, 6 Bronzes, 13 Tins) (Week 29)

2nd. It’s Not Right (Katharine McPhee - 2010) (25, 12.50; 0 Golds, 1 Silver, 3 Bronzes, 16 Tins) (Week 13)

1st. Bottom of the Soul (The Bonniwell Music Machine - 1967) (23, 13.53; 0 Golds, 0 Silvers, 6 Bronzes, 11 Tins) (Week 39)

The following songs all scored 10 or more Tins in their week:

16 - It’s Not Right (Katharine McPhee - 2010) (Week 13)

14 - Knowing Me, Knowing You (Wondermints - 1996) (Week 6)
       I Wonder (The Ronettes - 1964) (Week 14)
       Come Saturday Morning (The Sandpipers - 1969) (Week 16)

13 - Lonesome Cowboy Burt (Frank Zappa - 1971) (Week 22)
       Student Demonstration Time (The Beach Boys - 1971) (Week 26)
       People Who Died (The Jim Carroll Band - 1980) (Week 29)

12 - Here Come the Nice (Small Faces - 1967) (Week 17)

11 - River (Gentle Giant - 1972) (Week 4)
       Let ‘Em In (Wings - 1976) (Week 10)
       The Elements: Fire (Mrs. O’Leary’s Cow) (The Beach Boys - 1966-67/2011) (Week 18)
       Fever (The McCoys - 1965) (Week 19) *
       He Needs Me (Shelley Duvall, from Popeye - 1980/2002) (Week 30)
       Bottom of the Soul (The Bonniwell Music Machine - 1967) (Week 39)

10 - Out of the Blue (The Band - 1978) (Week 1)
       Leaps and Bounds (Paul Kelly and the Coloured Girls - 1986) (Week 2)
       Colour My World (Chicago - 1970) (Week 3)
       Stranger in a Strange Land (Iron Maiden - 1986) (Week 9)
       I’m a Marionette (ABBA - 1977) (Week 21)
       Wheeling West Virginia (Neil Sedaka - 1969) (Week 25)
       Collideascope (The Dukes of Stratosphear - 1987) (Week 34)
       Can’t Feel My Face (The Weeknd - 2015) (Week 40)
       If I Could Turn Back Time (Cher - 1989) (Week 45)

* still made its play-off

Let’s re-visit the two worst performed songs of the year for the last time.

The worst performed BW/BB association songs of the year were ‘Knowing Me, Knowing You’ (The Wondermints - 1996) (from an all BW-association week) and ‘Student Demonstration Time’ (The Beach Boys - 1972).

The Tin song with the least Tins for the year was ‘My World Is Empty Without You’ (The Supremes - 1965) from Al Forsyth’s Week 28, with five outright Tins (plus three shared Bronze/Tin votes).

The all-time record for Tins in a week still stands at 18 for ‘Mary Ann Regrets’ (Burl Ives - 1962) (Week 12, Season V).

The lowest all-time score, both in points and percentage, is still ‘Die Trompeten Von Mexiko’ (Helge Schneider - 2007) (Week 38, Season II) with 15 votes from 15 voters and 10% of the vote. I know Cantina Margarita was particularly proud of that achievement. It remains the only song to ever receive unanimous Tins.



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Hello everyone, hope you've all been well. Please still count my vote even though I haven't been a regular haha.

1. Crazy Horses - The Osmonds

That hair. Those moves. That ... instrument? YES.

2. Tennessee Whiskey - Chris Stapleton

I'm not a country lovin' gal usually, but I loved this! Maybe its the guy/girl harmony combo that I'm a fan of - definitely petitioning this song to be in future duo gig's. 

3. Me and the Elephants - Bobby Goldsboro 

Look, I love it. 

4. Honey - Bobby Goldsboro 

I wasn't sure but then I thought oh .. what the heck.

5. Fever - The McCoys

Edna Krabapple performs this in an episode of the simpsons, so it get's my vote.

6. Here She Comes - The Beach Boys

I like this! I don't understand why it's in the tin play offs!

7. My World is Empty Without You - The Supremes

The song doesn't do much for me, but their voices are too wonderful to have them any lower.

8. Girls Just Want to Have Fun - Cyndi Lauper 

This is not my kind of fun... 

9. Keepin' the Summer Alive - The Beach Boys 

I'm not sure what for...

10. Living for the City - Stevie Wonder

I'd move if I lived in that city.

“It's all too much.”
- George Harrison
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Voting is free and nobody gets the nuclear codes through a terrible fluke, correct?

1  Living for the City    classic & the only one of these I'd regularly listen to

2  Girls Just Want to Have Fun     also classic but Cyndi's vocal is a bit much at times

3  My World Is Empty Without You    also classic but not as cool, still miles ahead of 4 - 10


4  Keepin’ the Summer Alive     minor, but Carl's lead is good

5  Here She Comes        it meanders, but has its moments

6  Tennessee Whiskey       okay, but inconsequential

7  Fever        covering this standard wasn't a good idea


8  Crazy Horses      this should not exist

9  Me and the Elephants       please don't blame the elephants

10  Honey       auditory assault in the 1st degree

bonnie bella

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The beginning of a new year, a time when we ponder the greater issues and concepts in life, like; who decided it was okay to sell chicken in cans?  And if space is a vacuum, then who changes the bags?

TIN votes for 2016.

1.  Chris Stapleton.  The only song here that I would seek out to play again.  Tom always finds stuff I like.

2. Cindi Loping.  Yup, the second best of a bunch of porkers.  

3. TBB (Here She Comes).  I like this, in fact, I think it's pretty funky, even though it's barely the boys (and not really much of Carl at all [frown])

4.  Supremes.  I really like these vocals.  Unfortunately, it gets boring quick.  Not keen on that farty little horn.

5.  Stevie.  One of my least favourite of Stevie's songs.  

6. The McCoys.  Not tooooooooooo bad.  It's not "garage", more "kitchen"  I'm sure I can hear a cheese grater and electric whisk in action, and somebody banging a pot.

7.  The Crazy Osmond Ponies.  You really want to give this a chance, you really do.  Reality is, you can't. 

8.  TBB (Sullying The Summer With This Junk).  Nobody can explain this shouty train wreck.

9.  Let's not mention the E!ef@nt, okay, t?  Two minutes and forty-nine seconds followed by nine youtube suggestions involving long nosed, craggy-faced, grey creatures.  And also some elephants.

10.  Bobby and Hunny (RIP).  Enough said.

Thanks to Darren for rattling this can of dags.



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Darren J. Ray

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Thank you very much to Tom, Cindy, Al, Lee, Pete, t, NotJermia (welcome back), Prof and bonnie for your votes so far. 

Loving the passionate and hilarious comments.

It seems we have a bunch of polarisers this week (as you'd probably expect of songs that came last in their weeks but still scored quite well).

We're only 10 voters in and already just three of the songs don't have multiple votes both as people's top 3 AND people's bottom 3.

In fact, one song has only had one voter put it in neither their top 3 nor bottom 3.  

It's a close race, at least for the first three placed songs, currently all on the same score. 

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From worst to first 

10.  The Osmonds 

9.  Cyndi Lauper - Whenever I say that 80s pop is 1000X better than modern pop, this is not one of the examples I use.

8.  Chris Stapelton 

7.  B. Goldsboro - Elephant

6.  B. Goldsboro - Honey 

5.  Stevie Wonder

4.  BB - KTSA - The title track of The Beach Boys worst album that featured Brian.  Although I wonder what it would've sounded like if produced the way Randy Bachman envisioned.  Judging by the Knebworth show, it would've improved an awful song to "OK" status.

3.  McCoys

2. The Supremes

1.  BB - Here She Comes - Granted, it sounds very little like The Beach Boys, but I like it. 

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  1. Honey
  2. Me and The Elephants
  3. Tennessee Whiskey
  4. My World Is Empty Without You
  5. Crazy Horses
  6. Girls Just Want to have Fun
  7. Keepin’ the Summer Alive
  8. Here She Comes
  9. Living for the City
  10. Fever
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