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bonnie bella

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Reply with quote  #46 
Larry, I suspect Frida had everybody else's Wheaties as well.  Where can I get Wheaties like that?

t, I'm not going to get all David Attenborough over this living arrangement, although I'd say at times things could likely get a bit awkward. 

Cantina, glad to have stumbled on to the Autobahn - song that is.  I read that Kraftwerk were inspired by Brian's SMiLE offerings.


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'in my movie brian wilson get's the girl.
in my movie brian wilson completed the"smile" album...
that's what we get paid for...

we fix reality!'
- pere ubu, with the behemoth that is david thomas
introducing the song 'beach boys'.
corruscating music.
the nearest to a psychedelic reinterpretation of the world
from one of rock's giants
(who lives quietly here in sunny brighton when not out on the road with his bands).
also, and horribly timely, it's 'about a coup d'etat...'
(a beatles overtaking the beach boys analogy).
a 1995 performance, before the 'smile' dream became reality.
david thomas was at the rfh for shows,
met him in the county hall travel inn alongside at breakfast one morning
- ironically, he was disappointed with the way bw completed 'smile'
maybe thomas's movie panned out differently...
also, here's 'my dark ages',
the antithesis to beach boys's girls and cars songs.
'i don't get around & i don't fall in love much...'

Larry Franz

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bonnie -- All I know is that in the US you need a doctor's prescription and proper identification before you can score that much Wheaties.

of Montreal, "Lysergic Bliss", Satanic Panic in the Attic, 2004

The Apples in Stereo, "Innerspace", Fun Trick Noisemaker, 1995

Al Forsyth

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Larry - where do you find these things?  Did they take away the L word later in their career?  Although listening to one of their albums - can get you in that state without L and whatever follows.

Bonnie - Frida and co, were using those kitty-cat unis quite a bit in 75/76.  Yes, she was grand in that clip - dancing queen she was there.!

A diamond necklace played the pawn...
Larry Franz

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Hi Al -- Short answer: These days, mostly Spotify.

Long answer: At some point I decided that if Brian wasn't going to make any more music like Smile, I would investigate people who did. This led to decades of reading reviews and articles and buying the occasional album. So when the subject of what is often called experimental, baroque, chamber, orchestral, psychedelic, art or avant-garde pop or rock comes up, there are groups I immediately think of that have made that kind of music. Spotify makes it especially easy to save and find stuff like that, especially if you know what you're looking for.

Of course, if you look at Wikipedia for articles on musical topics like the ones above, Brian's music is often mentioned as an early example or a prime influence. For example, from the article on "Experimental Pop":
Music historian Lorenzo Candalaria described American rock band the Beach Boys as "one of the most experimental and innovative groups of the 1960s." Co-founder and leader Brian Wilson wrote and produced songs for the group that ranged from massive hits to obscure experimental pop compositions. Their 1966 single "Good Vibrations" ... topped record charts internationally, subsequently proliferating a wave of pop experimentation with its rush of riff changes, echo chamber effects, and intricate harmonies. It was followed by Smiley Smile (1967) an album of stripped-down recordings. In 2003, Stylus Magazine wrote that the album: "embrace[d] the listener with a drugged out sincerity; a feat never accomplished by the more pretentious and heavy-handed psychedelia of that era. It is for this reason Smiley Smile flows so well with the more experimental pop of today".

I've tried to post music this week that reminds me of Smile or that atmosphere, or might have been part of Smile, like this one (not just because of its title, which would have been appropriate):

Torres, "Cowboy Guilt", Sprinter, 2015 

t bedford

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First of all, can I say that Pere Ubu hails from Cleveland? I'm so old, I remember when David Thomas wrote for Cleveland Scene Magazine back in the 1970's, using the nom de plume Crocus Behemoth.

Here's another local act, not quite psychedelic, but the song title is right, and the chorus vocals are suitably Beach Boy influenced. A Group Called Eve - Smile:

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Lisa G/TS

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...and another week almost ran away on me, but I'm back:

GOLD -- BW, O2 to the Brain -- Quirky title and lyrics along with a simpler version of the shifting tempos put to more effective use on some earth shattering song BW wrote ages ago. So of the four under consideration here, this will take my most SMiLE-esque prize.

SILVER -- Winnie's People, Heffalumps and Woozles -- Deciding on Silver and Bronze..and even Tin for a bit....were the challenge. However, this tune manages to stick in my noggin better than Paul's PLW usually does, so that's one way it inched ahead. Another might be that the true story of the bear who inspired A. A. Milne's pre-Disney Winnie has a connection or two to my hometown of Winnipeg: I could have a bias?  [wink]   In spite of all this, "Pink Elephants" would have trampled it. 

BRONZE -- Pee McCee & Wings, Picasso's Last Words -- The tune shifts around (its closest SMiLE factor) and chunks are sung in a lazy, drunken stupor. However -- and I'm probably in a minority here -- I was never too crazy about thie BOTR track. The title track, "Mrs. Vanderbilt" and "Mamunia" - which has a bit of a hippy dippy chorus - are a few that rank a little higher for me.  

TIN -- I'm A Marionette, ABBA -- I had the LP when I was 10 or 11 ( and have the CD kickin' around somewhere). You're right, Cantina, it was part of a mini-musical on Side 2 (with "Thank You For the Music" and "I Wonder") which seemed to be a young star's bio on a blossoming music career from starry-eyed beginning to the frustration with management and fans described here. It probably works a little better on the whole, not as a separated part. Ah well, that's show biz..

Thanks for another fun week, CM ! The margaritas are on me!
Tom Tobben

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Might as well vote. I've got my rankings in order:

Gold -- "Picasso's Last Words", McCartney/Wings. Just one of a bunch of fine songs from Band on the Run, one of McCartney's very best albums, whether with Wings or solo. On this song, I love the way McCartney assembles bits of other songs or other musical vignettes together with the Picasso stuff into a whole, similar to what Brian Wilson did with "Good Vibrations" and a fair amount of the SMiLE project. One might make the case that this is sort of a "cubist" song as well, a la Picasso, with bits and pieces of musical images juxtaposed together to create a distinctive new whole from an original, non-traditional perspective. Al's video post was fascinating, explaining how Dustin Hoffman asked McCartney how he writes a song and McCartney comes up with this basic song, right on the spot after getting the initial kernel of the idea regarding Picasso's last words. During his prime years, McCartney was truly a creative force, as well as a superb vocalist.

Silver -- "Oxygen to the Brain", Brian Wilson. In my opinion, TLOS was perhaps Brian's best overall solo album, with an excellent set of original songs and lyrical bridges, all themed around Brian's southern California experience. Not only is this a lovely song, it also has excellent lyrics.

Bronze -- "Heffalumps and Woozels", Winnie the Poo / Disney.  I hadn't ever heard this one before, nor seen the related cartoon, but what a distinctly late 60s treat. The more times I listened/watched, the more this one grew on me. Good find, Cantina!

Tin -- "I'm A Marionette", ABBA. Back in the day, I wasn't much of an ABBA fan, but their songs are so catchy, it's hard not to like them. And these days they're fun to listen to in a camp-y way (catch that one, Cantina?), just as their music was perfect for the Mamma Mia! musical and film some years ago. It's hard to believe that Frida (Anni-Frid Lyngstad) is now 70 years old -- Say it ain't so!

Here's a few more songs that are evocative of SMiLE/Sgt. Pepper era Beach Boys and Beatles.

First, this lovely song from Explorers Club's debut album, Freedom Wind, seems to me to be most evocative of music from SMiLE, stylistically, and from the types of instruments, arrangements, and tempo shifts used:

Also, I'm surprised nobody has yet mentioned anything from Frank Zappa's distinctive spoof on the Beatles' Sgt. Pepper album, the psychedelic era, and phony hippies, titled We're Only in It for the Money, from 1968. Here's a couple noteworthy satiric example songs from that album. In addition to the music, be sure to check out the lyrics:

Cantina, you were wondering where all those -y adjectives came from. Well, they date back to at least as early as the above song by Zappa. The second verse of the song is as follows, starting at about :27 into the song:

"Walked past the wig store,
Danced at the Fillmore.
I'm completely stoned.
I'm hippy & I'm trippy,
I'm a gypsy on my own.
I'll stay a week & get the crabs &
Take a bus back home.
I'm really just a phony
But forgive me
'Cause I'm stoned."

And here's another fine example from the same Zappa album:

Example lyrics (satirically evocative of "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" and other trippy lyrics):

"Diamonds on velvets on goldens on vixen,
On comet & cupid on donner & blitzen,
On up & away & afar & a go-go,
Escape from the weight of your corporate logo!

(then later in the song):

...Dreaming on cushions of velvet & satin
To music by magic by people that happen
To enter the world of a strange purple Jello,
The dreams as they live them are all mellow yellow."

Note Zappa's poke at hippy/trippy Donovan as well in the verse above. 

Fun battle this week, Cantina!
Cantina Margarita

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Hi guys,

did you ever experience what happens when your mobile IP is being blocked by this forum as a suspected spammer ? There are some services doing this task, e. g. "Project Honey Pot". And who did this happen to ? To me, being a confessed Winnie The Pooh fan, during my BOTB hosting week.

Here's what I've been emailing to Darren as a "rescue me" message:

Hi Darren,

I'm on holidays now, by the lakes near Berlin (which is good), and I'm using a Vodafone branded surfstick with my laptop (which works well). Sadly I'm experiencing being blocked by Project Honey Pot (which is funny, fits perfectly to my new Winnie the Pooh alter ego). So I'm having some difficulties accessing the Brian Wilson Forum.

I've just been filling the whitelisting form. Here's their reaction:

Whitelist an IP with http:BL and Project Honey Pot

    Your IP address,, has been scheduled for whitelisting and will be automatically listed on July 16, 2016 11:57 PM PDT. The IP will remain on our whitelists until bad activity is encountered.
    The form below has been reset. You may make another whitelist request.

The stated date and time must be around local lunch time here. That's four hours to go, let's wait and see what happens.

In case the BW forum remains inaccessible for me, can I bother you with workaround proposals ?

As you can see, I managed to climb out of the heffalump's honey trap by myself. Good luck is for the stupid, as my grandma used to say.
Darren J. Ray

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I'm here, Cantina. 

Glad you're out of a sticky situation.

bonnie bella

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Reply with quote  #56 
My votes.

GOLD - Paul.  Plods through an entire song like he's ... well, getting ready for bed because he just can't drink any more.  Muttering horns, meaningless interludes of other songs, and that sleepy underwater feeling.  It's dulled even further by boring lyrics and nothing vocally exciting from Sir P.  Oh yes, I love it.

SILVER - Brian.  Tinkering away on the old ivories, although "crashing" might be a more appropriate word in this case.  Snappy little tune and interesting lyrics.  Brian sure loves his California.  I bet he'll be so glad when he's finished touring and can look out over L.A. again from his couch at home.

THE COLOUR OF HONEY - Pooh.  Trippy stuff indeed, Cantina.  Trippier than a bag of Scooby Snacks.  These deeply sinister looking creatures are honey stealers, and Pooh is an overweight bear with a sugar addiction and no pants.  Surely nothing good can come of this.  The tune is so sweet, catchy, and juvenile.  Perfect!

TIN - ABBA.  Starts out okay, but it's all downhill from there.  I really tried not to be like everyone else and give it a tin vote, but sadly, it's as creepy as heck and I don't like the vocals.  My entire life has been inundated with ABBA and their various revivals, which is why I might not like them, although going through the clips was fun.  This song is clearly intricate, but it's just a little too hard on the ears.



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Lisa G/TS

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Reply with quote  #57 
and Pooh is an overweight bear with a sugar addiction and no pants.

bonnie, it's a wonder some special interest group hasn't come down on these cartoon classics for their bad influence on children, i.e.: promoting indecent exposure. 

Donald Duck was the same deal: A sailor cap and top but no pants.
Quick Draw McGraw wore a hat, bandanna and belt with holster with partner Baba Louie only opting for the first two:

Image result for quick draw mcgraw

Yogi Bear and Boo-Boo gallivanted thru Jellystone Park wearing only a hat, collar with tie and a bow tie, respectively. 
...and it wasn't just males. Yogi's floozy gal pal, Cindy, was topless wearing only flowers in her hair, a kerchief around her neck and a tutu-type skirt that wasn't any more respectable than no pants or skirt.

 Image result for cindy bear

As for addictions, there was Snuffles (note how miserable he looks before and blissful he is after):

Anyways, where were we? Ah yes, back to the BOTB we go!

t bedford

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Reply with quote  #58 
Sorry, but those Hanna-Barbara 'toons didn't wear pants because they couldn't afford them! Forgetting Donald Duck's, er, personal problems with pants, here's what the well paid Disney stars wear:

Meanwhile, DO NOT watch this psychedelic 1970's cartoon if you are taking anything stronger than aspirin:

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My votes: 
    Gold – Oxygen to the Brain
    Silver – Picasso’s Last Words
    Bronze – I’m a Marionette
    Tin – Heffalumps and Woozles


I try hard to be strong
But sometimes I fail myself
And after all I've promised you
So faithfully
You still believe in me
I wanna cry . . .”


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Reply with quote  #60 

Gold - Picasso's Last Words 'Drink to Me' - Paul & Wings
Silver - Oxygen to the Brain - Brian Wilson
Bronze - 'Hefalumps and Woozles -  Winnie the Pooh
Tin - I'm a Marionette - Abba


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