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Darren J. Ray

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Hi everyone. 

Welcome to the Season IX Battle Of The Bands Play-Off Week 3.

This week features the 10 highest ranked songs that were voted second place in their respective weeks - the Silver medal winners.

If any host wishes to know where your choices finished in the rankings, by all means drop me a line at darrenjray@bigpond.com or just ask away here. 

Here are the nominees for this week:- 



School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell) (Chuck Berry - 1957/1958) (47 votes, 29.37%) (Week 1 - The Egg)

Your Summer Dream (The Beach Boys - 1963) (53, 31.18) (Week 9 - Deb#1)

River Song (Dennis Wilson - 1977) (46.5, 29.06) (Week 10 - Cindy Hood)

Strangers in the Night (Frank Sinatra - 1966) (49, 27.22) (Week 16 - Cindy Hood)

Soul Sacrifice (live) (Santana - 1969) (47, 29.37) (Week 19 - Tom Tobben)

Walkin’ After Midnight (Patsy Cline - 1957) (49, 28.82) (Week 29 - Larry Franz)

Shut Down (The Beach Boys - 1963) (49, 27.22) (Week 31 - stkilda4ever)

Beach Baby (The First Class - 1974) (47, 27.65) (Week 37 - Darren J. Ray)

A Day in the Life of a Tree (The Beach Boys - 1971) (46, 27.06) (Week 38 - Deb#1)

Miss You (single version) (The Rolling Stones - 1978) (53, 33.12) (Week 39 - Cindy Hood)



The clips have been posted below. 

Throughout the play-offs, I will list all links previously used by the respective hosts excepting where clips have been taken down for copyright infringement or when clips with improved audio have become available.  

I have sought the approval of substitute clips from the hosts whose selections this has affected. 

All 10 clips this week are the originals used by the hosts. In the case of ‘School Day’, I have added a clip of better audio. 

Again, if any of these links do not work for you now, just let me know and we’ll endeavour to find an alternative clip. 

As per each week of the play-offs, I ask you to vote using either one of three methods. 

Ideally, people will vote 1-10 (in their order of preference). 

If this appeals to you, you can copy and paste the titles (just below) into your post and put next to each song your order (1 = favourite song, 10 = least favourite song). 

Otherwise, feel free to just vote for your top 3 or top 5 in order.(The songs you don't rate will then be allotted equal points of the remainder.) 

Again, it should be noted that this week’s winner is not automatically ‘Silver Song of the Year’. 

This week's winning song simply goes on to compete in the Preliminary Final (and if the song that beat it in its original week has not already qualified for the Gold Play-Off, that too will be automatically included in the Preliminary).

The song that beat this week’s runner-up in its original week will also be included in the Preliminary (again, unless it has already qualified for the Gold Play-Off in its own right). 

See you next Monday (with the results). 

We will then progress to the Preliminary Final (from which the top three songs will go through to the Battle of the Golds). 


School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell)
Your Summer Dream
River Song
Strangers in the Night
Soul Sacrifice  
Walkin’ After Midnight
Shut Down
Beach Baby
A Day in the Life of a Tree
Miss You


School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell) (Chuck Berry - 1957/1958) 




Your Summer Dream (The Beach Boys - 1963) 


River Song (Dennis Wilson - 1977) 


Strangers in the Night (Frank Sinatra - 1966) 


Soul Sacrifice (live) (Santana - 1969) 


Walkin’ After Midnight (Patsy Cline - 1957)


Shut Down (The Beach Boys - 1963) 


Beach Baby (The First Class - 1974) 


A Day in the Life of a Tree (The Beach Boys - 1971) 


Miss You (single version) (The Rolling Stones - 1978)
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All 10 clips this week are the originals used by the hosts. In the case of ‘School Day’, I have added a clip of better audio. 

I gave this bronze in week 1 because the sound was so bad. This time I'll vote on how Chuck's recording actually sounds, but I think week 1 would have ended differently if that's what we were supposed to do. John E and Lee, for example, also voted based on the terrible American Bandstand video.

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I hear you, Larry. I wrestled in my mind as to what to do here. 

I wrote to The Egg and got his permission to add the better audio clip. 

If it had been a live recording, I wouldn't have gone this way. But it was Chuck miming to the record. And this is a much better recording of that record. 
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Yes, the fact that it wasn't an actual live recording justifies using the real thing. (I guess.)


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Thanks, Larry. Believe me, I pondered this for a long while. 

I posted both clips so people can make up their own minds. 

When I get a chance, I always try to encourage hosts to use the best available audio to showcase their selections to avoid this dilemma. 


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  1. School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell) *  [the top]
  2. Shut Down  
  3. A Day in the Life of a Tree 
  4. Walkin’ After Midnight 
  5. Miss You 
  6. Your Summer Dream 
  7. Soul Sacrifice
  8. River Song 
  9. Beach Baby
  10. Strangers in the Night  [not the top]

* As noted in earlier discussion, "School Day", having lost to "High School Confidential" in Week 1 by only three points, would almost certainly have won that week if a better video had been used, and would not be in competition this week. Therefore, if it wins this week, it deserves an asterisk, rather like the one officials were said to have given Roger Maris when he broke Babe Ruth's record but had the benefit of playing in a season with eight more games. I don't think Chuck would have minded the asterisk. He'd have been upset about the horrible sound on that "American Bandstand" video and presumed that if a better video had been used, "School Day" would have won Week 1, as well as the whole season.

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The first two are favourites of mine….
 
1. Beach Baby (The First Class - 1974) 
I’m sure if you asked Brian Wilson what he thought of this song, he’d say he loves it. So much for musical snobbery! This is the kind of record I wish the Beach Boys would’ve written and recorded in the ‘70s instead of that Holland and So Tough yawnfest stuff. I’m tipping Mike felt the same. Great lyrics, great vocals, great energy. There’s so much going on. And THIS was a hit! It’s cute how the tune from another Tony Burrows hit is played on the coda, ‘Let’s Go to San Francisco’ (The Flowerpot Men) from 1967. And listen for that radio outro. 
 
2. Walkin’ After Midnight (Patsy Cline - 1957)
The opening track to the 25 Great American Country & Folk Artists Singing Their Original Hits album on Majestic Records that I spent much of my childhood listening to. Fond memories and a strong recording. Love that steel guitar. 
 
I’m a fan of these….
 
3. Strangers in the Night (Frank Sinatra - 1966) 
I reckon Bert’s Kaempfert’s bank manager would’ve loved him in 1966. Not only was this a #1 hit, but ‘Spanish Eyes’, as recorded by Al Martino and also written by Kaempfert, was a big hit as well. It’s a great record. I own both the album (on cassette) and the Reprise single on 45 (with the giant hole in the middle). I saw Frank live in concert twice; in 1988 and ’91. He didn’t sing this either time.   
 
4. School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell) (Chuck Berry - 1957/1958)
I received this as a Christmas gift on two of three Pickwick records when I was 14. (The second was a various artists compilation and the third record was an LP called Good Vibrations by The Beach Boys.) I’ve now read they were re-recordings done in the ‘60s so they could be released in stereo. I prefer the version of ‘School Days’ I grew up with. Have read Chuck’s autobiography. He seemed to exhibit class. 

Image result for Chuck Berry School Days Pickwick  Image result for Good Vibrations LP The Beach Boys Pickwick
  
 
It has to be….
 
5. Shut Down (The Beach Boys - 1963)
Decent lyrics (I guess). Mike’s switch from lead tenor to bass vocal is probably the best part of it. Plus there’s his rip roaring saxophone solo.
 
Slim pickings now….
 
6. River Song (Dennis Wilson - 1977)
The opening and easily most accessible track from Pacific Ocean Blue. I remember first hearing the start - I was playing it on a sound engineer friend's massive stereo - and thinking, "Wow! Epic sound". But towards the end, you kinda sense he’s now just treading water in that river. And what’s it about anyway? As with many post-surf era Beach Boys songs, especially Dennis’s, the lyrics are the song’s shortcoming. Maybe the record-buying public felt the same way.
 
7. Your Summer Dream (The Beach Boys - 1963)
I have a soft spot for early Brian and Boys, but this is just too pedestrian. And no girl would be turned on by this sentiment. 
 
8. A Day in the Life of a Tree (The Beach Boys - 1971)
The only song of the 10 that I gave a Tin to in its original week. Not exactly ‘Surfin’ USA’, is it? On first listen, you wonder who the hell that is. Turns out to be their manager at the time, Jack Rieley. Just when you think it can’t get any more bizarre, suddenly Van Dyke Parks starts ’singing’. But seriously….. it’s well-meaning and heartfelt. I get it - Brian picked Jack because he sounded wooden. Like a tree. He sure doesn’t sound like a singer. I wonder what the Dennis version sounded like. 
 
Found Van Dyke’s recollection of the session amusing:
 
I went up there to congratulate them on acting like grown-ups. On continuing to push. Then they had me doing a vocal. I liked that song about the tree just fine. I was just called in to do some singing on one line. It worked out well. Of course I had to stumble out of the studio in pitch darkness. Brian turned out all the lights. Had to crawl out of there on the floor, clutching my wife. Most humiliating thing I've ever ... Oh it's a power trip all right. But I can get behind that. I can get behind the way Brian does it. It's funny to watch him when he can't find something he owns. It's cute when he ignores someone else's needs, because he can always plead insanity.
 
Just not songs I would play….
 
9. Miss You (single version) (The Rolling Stones - 1978)
Not a Stones fan. Never seem them live. Have no desire to see Chicken S___ and the others. 
 
10. Soul Sacrifice (live) (Santana - 1969)
One of three songs this week I gave a Gold to. Says more about how I felt about the songs it beat. I’m not usually a fan of the audio in live performances in comparison to studio recordings and, although it is probably exceptional in terms of performance, there’s nothing about this that makes me think, "Gee, I can’t wait to play this again".  
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Here are my silver votes:

1.  Miss You.
2.  River Song.
3.  Your Summer Dream.
4.  Soul Sacrifice.
5   A Day In the Life of a Tree.
6.  Beach Baby.
7.  Shut Down.
8.  School Day.
9.  Strangers in the Night.
10.  Walkin' After Midnight.








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as reasonably expected, harder than the tin competition, as all the songs are at least good.  I'm judging in order that I subjectively like these songs now, not by their importance, etc.

1. "Your Summer Dream"  by Brian and the Boys

What male is to judge what 'turns' on women?   this is a song about the singer's POV/love for someone else--not 'are you digging me, chick?' . and to me: very soulful.

2.  "Strangers in the Night" by Frank.

see?  I am not Larry.!   rocks at the end, don't it.  Hal, right?

3.  "River Song" by Dennis
 
I think it sold respectfully, and even got played a lot on my local FM radio station at the time.  what's so bad about the lyrics?  I mean, if you like 'Goin' Up Country' they're at least that good, innit?

4.  "Shut Down" by Brian & Mike and the Boys.

good lyrics.  kinda rocks.  If Mike was ever cool, he was cool here.  but Doubt Mike put down the sax solo for the record--it's more than 2 notes.  Am I wrong?

5. "School Day" by Chuck

if I have a criticism, it's very retrospective, and that is: for pushing 31-32 at the time, Chuck's...kind of foreshadowing 'barely legal' fetish, if not necessarily deviance.  Kind of a precursor to the Knack's 'My Sharona'.  No surprises that Chuck's jail terms, 'My Ding a Ling' recording, and secret bathroom videos, would all follow.  Yeah, you say, but what about Jerry Lee Lewis and his escapades?   Indeed. 

6. "Walkin After Midnight" by Patsy

like her ballads better, but this one has a very nice bridge about the weeping willow. 

7. "Beach Baby" by The First Class

liked it on the AM radio I was listening to at the time.  pays tribute to both early early and early middle period Brian & the Boys.  Again, though, a couple of lyrical mistakes.  not 'everybody' drove a Chevrolet.  GM cars ...were pretty but broke down and didn't last back then.  also, San Jose is very far away from Beach Boys land for a quick spur of the moment drive decision.

8. "Miss You" by Mick & Keith and the brit boys. 

good song on a great album.   The Stones competed respectable--y with the hot musical trends at the time.

9. "A Day in the Life of a Tree"

okay, if a little silly. Trees cannot really think or sing.  Not an ecological anthem.  Not even especially sad.  could have been punched up a little for inclusion on the fairy tale, maybe.

10.  Carlos Santana

'Soul Sacrifice'      deedle deedle deedle dee does not necessarily =soul.
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Soul Sacrifice (live) (Santana - 1969)  * That (Woodstock) drum solo from Michael Shrieve, aged just 20, was mind blowing. 

Strangers in the Night (Frank Sinatra - 1966) * A close second. One of my two favourite Sinatra songs. (Somethin' Stupid # 1).

School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell) (Chuck Berry - 1957/1958) * A lot of mundane lyrics from this era of rock n roll ... but never from Chuck.  (Well maybe My Ding A Ling was the exception.)

Miss You (single version) (The Rolling Stones - 1978) 

Walkin’ After Midnight (Patsy Cline - 1957) 

Beach Baby (The First Class - 1974) 

Shut Down (The Beach Boys - 1963) (49, 27.22) 


Your Summer Dream (The Beach Boys - 1963) 

River Song (Dennis Wilson - 1977) 

A Day in the Life of a Tree (The Beach Boys - 1971)



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2.  "Strangers in the Night" by Frank.

see?  I am not Larry.!   rocks at the end, don't it.  Hal, right?

I think we've put that theory to rest a number of times. Take our extended discussion of new cars and CD players, for example. And one of us putting "All Along the Watchtower" in 6th place!

"Strangers" doesn't impress me like it used to. Although that moment around 2:01 when he takes that little pause is very cool. 

Frank Sinatra, with Nelson Riddle, "I've Got You Under My Skin"
youtube.com/watch?v=_XCVnV5CGh0

"I've Got the World on a String"
youtube.com/watch?v=Ol475GFFPW4

"Witchcraft"
youtube.com/watch?v=oFmNgiEgPoQ


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Do you think Brian started off "Thank You" (from the 'Sweet Insanity' boot) thinking of 'Something Stupid'?  I'm not sure, but the way 'Thank You' ends makes me wonder.  Also, the full stop in 'Let's Fall In Love', for 'Little Girl I Once Knew.'  Maybe, maybe not.  Even geniuses need inspiration from somewhere.
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Silver Votes:

1.  Miss You.  Stones go disco?  Who knew???? Bill Wyman puts down the bass.  Jam song. Groove is found by all.
2.  Your Summer Dream.  I always have a soft spot for this one.  I just do.  Brian’s vocal kills it (in a good way that is). Not many Beach Boy songs sans harmony.

3.  Walkin' After Midnight.  Just classic Patsy. Top tier country singer who could cross over.  Tragedy ended that of course.

4.  Soul Sacrifice.  Woodstock shows the world Santana – jam song again.  They are in the groove here.

5.  Shut Down.  Always liked it.  The Beach Boys are getting’ rocky. Car song #2.

6.  Strangers in the Night.  Frank gets frankly.  Dooby dooby doo. 

7.  School Day.  LOVE Chuck but this one was always too silly.  My Ding-A-Ling would be also in the silly group. I like cool Chuck with some fun included. 

8   A Day In the Life of a Tree.  Always a challenge to accept this as Beach Boy but the message and product forces you to listen.  The Beach Boys go environmental.

9.  Beach Baby.  Radio song – you hear it once and can never forget it – but you want to!

10.  River Song.  I never got into the Dennis albums but appreciated what he did.  I’ve heard some other things by him that have had me gush some. 


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Silver Submittals:

01 A Day in the Life of a Tree
02 Your Summer Dream
03 River Song
04 Soul Sacrifice
05 Shut Down

06 School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell)
07 Beach Baby
08 Miss You
09 Walkin’ After Midnight
10 Strangers in the Night


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  1. Walkin’ After Midnight
  2. Miss You
  3. Strangers in the Night
  4. Soul Sacrifice
  5. Shut Down
  6. Beach Baby
  7. School Day
  8. Your Summer Dream
  9. River Song
  10. A Day in the Life of a Tree

 

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