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Darren J. Ray

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Hi everyone. 

Welcome to the Season X Battle Of The Bands Play-Off Week 3. 

This week features the 10 highest ranked songs that were voted second place in their respective weeks - the Silver medal winners. 

If any host wishes to know where your choices finished in the rankings, by all means drop me a line at darrenjray@bigpond.com or just ask away here. 

Here are the nominees for this week:- 



Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963) (40 points, 28.57%) (Week 9 - stkilda4ever)

Conquistador (single edit) (Procol Harum - 1972) (37, 30.83) (Week 15 - Cindy Hood)

Gimme Shelter (The Rolling Stones - 1969) (43, 30.71) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood)

Take the Long Way Home (Supertramp - 1979) (39, 30.00) (Week 19 - Deb#1)

I’ll Be There (The Jackson 5 - 1970) (41, 31.54) (Week 21 - Al Forsyth)

Strawberry Fields Forever (The Beatles - 1967) (52, 28.89) (Week 28 - Darren J. Ray)

White Winter Hymnal (Fleet Foxes - 2008) (40, 28.57) (Week 29 - Larry Franz)

Zombie (The Cranberries - 1994) (46, 30.67) (Week 34 - paul g adsett)

I’ll Never Find Another You (The Seekers - 1964) (43, 30.71) (Week 37 - Darren J. Ray)

Let Him Run Wild (The Fendertones - 2004) (37, 30.83) (Week 39 - Al Forsyth)



The clips have been posted below.

Throughout the play-offs, I will list all links previously used by the respective hosts excepting where clips have been taken down for copyright infringement.

I have sought the approval of substitute clips from the hosts whose selections this has affected.

Seven clips this week are the originals used by the hosts. The clips for ‘Conquistador’, ‘Gimme Shelter’ and ‘Take the Long Way Home’ have been replaced as the originals were taken down.

Again, if any of these links do not work for you now, just let me know and we’ll endeavour to find an alternative clip.

As per each week of the play-offs, I ask you to vote using either one of three methods. 

Ideally, people will vote 1-10 (in their order of preference). 

If this appeals to you, you can copy and paste the titles (just below) into your post and put next to each song your order (1 = favourite song, 10 = least favourite song). 

Otherwise, feel free to just vote for your top 3 or top 5 in order. (The songs you don't rate will then be allotted equal points of the remainder.)

Again, it should be noted that this week’s winner is not automatically ‘Silver Song of the Year’.

This week's winning song simply goes on to compete in the Preliminary Final (and if the song that beat it in its original week has not already qualified for the Gold Play-Off, that too will be automatically included in the Preliminary).

The song that beat this week’s runner-up in its original week will also be included in the Preliminary (again, unless it has already qualified for the Gold Play-Off in its own right).

See you next Monday (with the results).

We will then progress to the Preliminary Final (from which the top three songs will go through to the Battle of the Golds).



Be My Baby
Conquistador
Gimme Shelter
Take the Long Way Home
I’ll Be There
Strawberry Fields Forever
White Winter Hymnal
Zombie
I’ll Never Find Another You
Let Him Run Wild



Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963)



Conquistador (single edit) (Procol Harum - 1972)


Gimme Shelter (The Rolling Stones - 1969)


Take the Long Way Home (Supertramp - 1979)


I’ll Be There (The Jackson 5 - 1970)


Strawberry Fields Forever (The Beatles - 1967)


White Winter Hymnal (Fleet Foxes - 2008)


Zombie (The Cranberries - 1994)


I’ll Never Find Another You (The Seekers - 1964)


Let Him Run Wild (The Fendertones - 2004)

 

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Cantina Margarita

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... not wanting to reveal too much at this early point, I can already tell that it's a matter of four alltime favourites and one special hate song for me. I would feel honoured to avoid a certain song's overall win (which is not too unlikely) by my votes. None of the songs in between will be subject to rise above my #5 or sink below my #9.
The last sentence isn't very helpful, is it ?
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Darren - votes in for the week and very easy to place:
GOLD - Strawberry Fields - changed pop music into an art form. 
youtube.com/watch?v=jD2h0WuQ9kE
SILVER - Gimme Shelter - if you ever hear this live it goes right through you!
youtube.com/watch?v=ctrC9FtkmYA
BRONZE - Be My Baby - changed and influenced Brian Wilson.
(You're a fan forever)  Did he write DWB for the Ronettes? youtube.com/watch?v=ctrC9FtkmYA
Fourth - I'll Be There - - Love em or not, he was amazing!
youtube.com/watch?v=VzLzUqdGBNo
Fifth - Let Him Run Wild
- The F-tones GET IT!  
Supposedly Brian doesn't like the song - I do! This band gets it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
youtube.com/watch?v=SHi4_Gux2Qc

Then all the others ….
Whew, my votes are in.


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A tricky lineup of songs to compere, Darren.


One song stands right out and needs immediate playing, so I'll finish the job.


1) Supertramp - Take The Long Way Home.  Totally love this song. Brilliant.


2) The Cranberries - Zombie. Dolores. This album and that woman had a huge impact on me in my early twenties.


3) The Beatles - Strawberry Feilds Forever.  Hugley influential and deeply interesting. Living is easy with eyes closed ...  


4) The Jackson Five - I'll Be There.  Always a good listen, and it always makes me feel a little bit sad now when I hear young Michael singing.


5) The Fleet Foxes - White Winter Hymnal.  Underrated talent. Love the harmonies.


6) The Ronettes - Be My Baby. The Brian song.  Still evokes a shiver when it starts.


7) The Fendertones - Let Him Run Wild.  Perfect rendition. It's just not Brian.


8) The Rolling Stones - Gimmie Shelter.  Yep, way down here.


9) Procol Harum - Conquistador.  Not a very fair placing for this song as I don't know it very well, but I doubt it would ever place any higher among these.


10) The Seekers - I'll Never Find Another You. I think I was cringing at this at 4 years old. Things haven't changed one bit.




John B, I almost replied last week regarding Jet Airliner (aka Hotel Carolina). I thought it was quite straightforward: He didn't want to leave his home town, but he did. It was maybe a little presumptuous of him to think the pilot might deviate off flight path so that he didn't land quite as far away from home as New England Town (bright lights, big city, all of that), but otherwise, it makes perfect sense.


Leavin' home, out on the road
I've been down before
Ridin' along in this big ol' jet plane
I've been thinkin' about my home
But my love light seems so far away
And I feel like it's all been done
Somebody's tryin' to make me stay
You know I've got to be movin' on
Oh, oh big ol' jet airliner
Don't carry me too far away
Oh, oh big ol' jet airliner
'Cause it's here that I've got to stay
Goodbye to all my friends at home
Goodbye to people I've trusted
I've got to go out and make my way
I might get rich you know I might bet busted
But my heart keeps calling me backwards
As I get on the 707
Ridin' high I got tears in my eyes
You know you got to go through hell
Before you get to heaven
Big ol' jet airliner
Don't carry me too far away
Oh, oh big ol' jet airliner
'Cause it's here that I've got to stay
Touchin' down in New England town
Feel the heat comin' down
I've got to keep on keepin' on
You know the big wheel keeps on spinnin' around
And I'm goin' with some hesitation
You know that I can surely see
That I don't want to get caught up in any of that
Funky s*** goin' down in the city
Big ol' jet airliner
Don't carry me too far away
Oh, oh big ol' jet airliner
'Cause it's here that I've got to stay
Oh, oh big ol' jet airliner
Don't carry me too far away
Oh, oh big ol' jet airliner
'Cause it's here that I've got to stay


Now, pass the dutchie ...
 




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This batch is much better than last week's.
  1. Gimme Shelter -- easy to put here
  2. Strawberry Fields Forever
  3. White Winter Hymnal
  4. Let Him Run Wild -- the original would be higher
  5. Zombie
  6. Be My Baby -- other Spector songs would be higher
  7. Take the Long Way Home
  8. Conquistador -- Please say the "quist" part like "keest", not "quist" or "kisst".
  9. I’ll Never Find Another You
  10. I’ll Be There  -- the only one I have trouble listening to

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Well, Bonnie, you like him, that's what matters.  But, no problem, we can both read Steve's Wikipedia page and enjoy it for different reasons.   For example, when it says he learned to play guitar with his teeth and behind his head at age 9, you can say, 'that's wonderful' and I will think something else.   and certainly, you are free to believe that poor Steve left college without a degree due to his "resentment over academic politics" at that institution.  Seems other colleges similarly cheated him, though.  So, without his rich parents paying for another foreign plane fare, Steve was left to load up his VW van and drive to San Francisco to become the rock star we know him to be now.  Funny, 'smart' fellow like Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen, even Zuckerberg and Jobs went to college but did not graduate, because they preferred to do something else with their lives.   Why does Steve feel the need to place that howler of an excuse upon his Wikipedia page?  (Homer Simpson whisper behind hand: because he's a dumb guy who made bad grades).

  
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But let me complete this Top 10.

1. "Gimme Shelter"

the most powerful, complete RS song, to me.

2. "Be My Baby"

the great before its time ode to miscegenation.  Therefore, a punk anthem.   Brian had a gentile/Jewess sympathy.   Sometimes I think there's no greater public good than expanding the status-quo.   It's the opposite of fascism, which can be too easily popular.  Oh, and Ronnie was very attractive, and a very great singer, too.  and, may I point out that Hal Blaine was a really good drummer.?

3. "I'll be There"

I was there, about 10 years old.  Enough said.

4. "Let Him run Wild" by the Fendertones.

by the world's greatest Brian impersonation group.  Even the cover song reminds me of when at age 12 1/2, I was awarded 'Endless Summer' by my dad for playing well in a baseball playoff game; so I played this in the backseat of the car on a late summer vacation across Oklahoma, to Turner Falls and then to Roman Nose.  Great song.  The original would have been 1st or 2nd.

5. "I Know I'll Never Find Another You" by the Seekers

I like folk rock.  Really good.

6. "Zombie" by the Cranberries

sometimes you don't need to beat around the bush regarding warmongering.  She was a 90's heroine.  Sorry she's not around now.   I like (Bay Area representative) Ro Khanna's line recently: 'if stalking and killing bad guys made a country safer, then after 20 years of drone attacks and war, Afghanistan would be Switzerland.'  Exactly.  That's exactly the right point.

7. "Strawberry Fields"

doggone it.  Just can't place it lower.   a hippie anthem.  drugs and being in trees.  but I suppose, good song.  symphonic sounding.

8. "Conquistador" by Procol Harum

slightly more subtle antiwar song.  I would not change the station if this came on the radio.

9. "White Winter Hymnal"  by Fleet Foxes

suppose this is anti-conformity using blood and snow metaphors.  right?

10. "Take the Long Way Home" by Supertramp

no feeling when I hear this song.  Only ...a lack of understanding of why people liked them so much.  Why the waitress cover?  Was the group pro-service industry?   I was working as a room service waiter and banquet waiter at about that time, but didn't really feel Supertramp 'had my back.'  Oh, well. to each his/her own, though.
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Here's my silver votes:


1.  Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963) (40 points, 28.57%) (Week 9 - stkilda4ever)

3.  Conquistador (single edit) (Procol Harum - 1972) (37, 30.83) (Week 15 - Cindy Hood)

2.  Gimme Shelter (The Rolling Stones - 1969) (43, 30.71) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood)

5.  Take the Long Way Home (Supertramp - 1979) (39, 30.00) (Week 19 - Deb#1)

8.  I’ll Be There (The Jackson 5 - 1970) (41, 31.54) (Week 21 - Al Forsyth)

6.  Strawberry Fields Forever (The Beatles - 1967) (52, 28.89) (Week 28 - Darren J. Ray)

10.  White Winter Hymnal (Fleet Foxes - 2008) (40, 28.57) (Week 29 - Larry Franz)

9.  Zombie (The Cranberries - 1994) (46, 30.67) (Week 34 - paul g adsett)

7.  I’ll Never Find Another You (The Seekers - 1964) (43, 30.71) (Week 37 - Darren J. Ray)

4.  Let Him Run Wild (The Fendertones - 2004) (37, 30.83) (Week 39 - Al Forsyth)

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You could virtually throw a blanket over the first three…

1. Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963)
Just a great record. And, yes, Carnie & Wendy must be really sick of it!

2. I’ll Never Find Another You (The Seekers - 1964)
Those harmonies melt me. And how good is the clip below of them in the studio (although it’s not really live). I’ve read it was the SECOND BIGGEST SELLING SINGLE in the UK in 1965. Top-fived in the US when Australian acts made no imprint in that market. ('Georgy Girl' went to #2 in the US.) Judith Durham was my first girl-boy thing (seriously, how cute is she in that studio clip). I grew up on the Seekers. Encouraged by my teachers, I would stand on the platform in front of Grades Prep and 1 at school and sing all twelve songs off The Seekers Sing Their Big Hits. They inspired me to do what I do today. And I still listen to that album. At FULL BLAST! I even rang Athol Guy when I was eight years old because there was ONE WORD on the whole LP I couldn't understand. The word was 'airbrakes' from 'Wreck of the Old 97'. (Mum spoke to Athol – by then a sitting politician – he won three terms with an increased majority each time. I was way too nervous to speak with him). I could wax lyrical forever about the musical talents of Judith Durham & the Seekers. One only has to check out their entry in Wikipedia to gain an insight to how phenomenal they were. They are so special to me. One of my greatest wishes is to meet the beautiful and humble Judith. I've (finally) met Athol a couple of times, Keith just the once (at a signing) and would indeed love to meet Bruce, too. Whilst I prefer some other Seekers songs – ‘A World of Our Own’, ‘Building Bridges’ and ‘Someday One Day’ – this is a great song, written by Tom Springfield and a wonderful vocal arrangement by the group.

The_Seekers'_Greatest_Hits_(1968).jpg 
This LP spent 17 weeks at #1 here; knocked The White Album off #1 in the UK and prevented Beggars Banquet (The Rolling Stones) from making #1 (according to Wiki).



And here they are, 50 years later….


Judith on This is Your Life….




3. Strawberry Fields Forever (The Beatles - 1967)
Not one of my favourite Lennon tracks. I know this was a game changer, but I wasn’t around when it was first released. And the edit is obvious but works. Still, it is John, and I do like the brass arrangement. I’m reminded how when I bought 1967-1970, for a time the left speaker wasn’t working on the family stereo. I didn’t hear half of this, including ‘cranberry sauce’, until about a year later!

I really like this…

4. Take the Long Way Home (Supertramp - 1979)
Good song. I sometimes play this through the system, packing up at the end of a long night doing a solo or duo gig. It’s become apt and like a familiar friend to me. It’s a pity Rick Davies and Roger Hodgson split – neither was successful afterwards – but that’s rock’n’roll. Breakfast in America was huge here in Australia. I had guys at school asking me how I felt about the Beatles being usurped by Supertramp!

Then it’s a stretch…

5. Conquistador (single edit) (Procol Harum - 1972)
Frustrating. This is almost a great song. This is almost a great record. It’s a song I was familiar with to the extent that I requested someone give me the track on a compilation CD almost 20 years ago. I think they gave me the 1967 studio version, which is just too short, not yet fully realised and sans that obligatory, bombastic ‘70s lead solo. But, as I was already obviously aware of the song, it must have been this live version (the hit) that I’d heard in my youth (#4 here in 1972).  Why were live albums so in vogue in the ‘70s? Thankfully, it seems a fad that has passed. Anyway, now that Larry has pointed out he’s mispronouncing the name of the song, I can barely bring myself to listen to it.

6. Gimme Shelter (The Rolling Stones - 1969)
Glorified noise? I’m pretty sure you had to be there. I wasn’t. Good guitar sound, though.

7. I’ll Be There (The Jackson 5 - 1970)
It’s a pity Pariah Carey and the vocal gymnastics guy totally ruined this song for me. It was sickly enough already. The melody is stronger than the lyrics. Just look over your shoulders, honey!

Comfortably nestled on the bottom…

8. White Winter Hymnal (Fleet Foxes - 2008)
Fleet Foxes have a signature sound; a sound found in all the songs I’ve heard from them, none of which I’m enamoured with. The first part of this is annoying.

9. Let Him Run Wild (The Fendertones - 2004)
Warning: Geek City! I’ve never been much of a fan of the song. But I can only dream of having that type of ensemble. I’m even jealous of the set.

10. Zombie (The Cranberries - 1994)
Her voice grates on me. And she should have been treated for that hyperventilation.

 


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Anyway, now that Larry has pointed out he’s mispronouncing the name of the song


It's apparently acceptable as an "English" pronunciation (in fact it's the only one offered in my dictionary) but I'm not sure I agree that it should be.
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Strawberry Fields Forever I’m reminded how when I bought 1967-1970, for a time the left speaker wasn’t working on the family stereo. I didn’t hear half of this, including ‘cranberry sauce’, until about a year later!


If you were the dee jay in Detroit you would have heard something different that caused a sensation for a brief time - spinning records backwards and the like - "I buried …"  But he is saying C-sauce after all.  

The song and recording is pure brilliance imho. It woke us all up. 

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1.I’ll Never Find Another You (The Seekers - 1964)
2. Strawberry Fields Forever (The Beatles - 1967)
3. Zombie (The Cranberries - 1994)
4. Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963)
5. Conquistador (single edit) (Procol Harum - 1972)
6. I’ll Be There (The Jackson 5 - 1970)
7. Gimme Shelter (The Rolling Stones - 1969)
8. Let Him Run Wild (The Fendertones - 2004)
9. Take the Long Way Home (Supertramp - 1979)
10. White Winter Hymnal (Fleet Foxes - 2008)

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1: Strawberry Fields Forever
- forever

2: Let Him Run Wild
- as long as he may run

3: Conquistador
- a mighty contestant 

4: I’ll Be There
- or thereabouts.
loved it since its first release.

5: Gimme Shelter
- gimme a break!
this is a classiv, innit, shouldn't it be higher?

6: White Winter Hymnal
- gorgeous, oh, i wish i could place it higher up.
a different track, maybe.

7: I’ll Never Find Another You
- not that i'm looking,
but i'd be quite happy with this in other circumstances

8: Be My Baby
- yes, most days, maybe,
but there's some big boys here this week...

9: Zombie
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may've been my pick, but its skeleton doesn't make the (biode)grade(able) here
(though, good on you, john b,
for the words in favour).
 
10: Take the Long Way Home
- a long, long way back in beyond 10th place
and don't bother coming back...

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  Season 10 week 3 ..Battle of the silvers


               1)Be My Baby

               2)Let Him Run Wild

               3)Strawberry Fields Forever

              4)I'll never find another you

              5)Gimme Shelter

              6)I'll be there

              7)Conquistadors

                                          The Silvers


           
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Darren J. Ray

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Thanks very much to the first group of voters - Al, bonnie, Larry, John B, Cindy, stkilda4ever, paul and Verden. 

Some entertaining and passionate comments and a polariser emerging.

Even some residual debate on one of last week's polarisers, big ol' 'Jet Airliner'!

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Why the waitress cover?  Was the group pro-service industry?   I was working as a room service waiter and banquet waiter at about that time, but didn't really feel Supertramp 'had my back.' 
 

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