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Darren J. Ray

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Hi everyone.


Welcome to the Season VII Battle of the Bands Play-Off Week 4.


It’s the penultimate week – the Preliminary Final.  


Let me explain how this works.


From the 44 weeks of competition, the seven highest ranked Gold songs have already advanced to next week's Grand Final, where they will be revealed.


The top three vote getters from this week will meet them in that major play-off.

 
This week was devised to reward hosts who had particularly strong weeks, giving a lifeline to the winners of the Silver & Bronze play-offs and, indeed, have a chance to battle it out for the top three spots of the year.


This week features the following: 


- the winner of the Bronze Play-Off and the two songs that beat it in its original week (neither of which had qualified for the Gold and Silver play-offs in their own right)

- the winner of last week’s Silver Play-Off, which hasn’t finished lower than second in either week (regular or play-off) that it’s competed in

- the song that defeated the Silver Play-Off winner in its original week (unless it had already qualified for the Gold Play-Off in its own right, which it hadn’t)

- the song that defeated the runner-up of the Silver Play-Off in its original week (again, unless it had already qualified for the Gold Play-Off in its own right, which it hadn’t)

- the three songs that were ranked 8-10 at the end of the regular season

- the remaining (one in this case) selection(s) to make up the 10 for this week is the song that won Gold and was ranked next in order beyond the 10; in this case, #11.


Here are the nominees for this week:-


Country Air (The Beach Boys - 1967) (65 votes, 36.11%) (Week 5 - paul g adsett)

Pet Sounds (live) (Brian Wilson - 2002) (70, 35.00) (Week 6 - Lisa G/TS)

Help Me, Rhonda (The Beach Boys - 1965) (61.5, 30.75) (Week 7 - BrianFan)

Help! (The Beatles - 1965) (58.5, 29.25; 165) (Week 7 - BrianFan)

You Still Believe in Me (The Beach Boys - 1966) (73.5, 33.41) (Week 14 - Larry Franz)

California Saga: California (The Beach Boys - 1973) (74.5, 33.86) (Week 16 - Verden McCutcheon)

The Warmth of the Sun (Brian Wilson - 1995) (66, 30.00) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood)

Rhapsody in Blue (George Gershwin - 1924) (58, 26.36) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood)

Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963) (57, 25.91; 174) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood) 

Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder) (The Beach Boys - 1966) (66, 36.67) (Week 40 - Peter Simpson)



The clips have been posted below.


Throughout the play-offs, I will list all links previously used by the respective hosts excepting where clips have been taken down for copyright infringement or when clips with improved audio have become available.  


I have sought the approval of substitute clips from the hosts whose selections this has affected.


Nine of the clips this week are the originals used by the hosts. 


‘Country Air’ was taken down for copyright infringement.


Now if any of these links do not work for you, just let me know and we’ll endeavour to find an alternative clip.


As per each week of the play-offs, I ask you to vote using either one of three methods.


Ideally, people will vote 1-10 (in their order of preference).


If this appeals to you, you can copy and paste the titles (just below) into your post and put next to each song your order (1 = favourite song, 10 = least favourite song).


Otherwise, feel free to just vote for your top 3 or top 5 in order. (The songs you don't rate will then be allotted equal points of the remainder.)


Again, this week's top THREE vote getters will go on to compete in next week's Gold Play-Off, from which we will choose the Gold, Silver & Bronze winning songs for the year!


See you next Monday (with the results).


Country Air
Pet Sounds (live)
Help Me, Rhonda
Help!
You Still Believe in Me
California Saga: California
The Warmth of the Sun
Rhapsody in Blue
Be My Baby
Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)

 

Country Air (The Beach Boys - 1967)

 

Pet Sounds (live) (Brian Wilson - 2002)

 

Help Me, Rhonda (The Beach Boys - 1965)

 

Help! (The Beatles - 1965)

 

You Still Believe in Me (The Beach Boys - 1966)

 

California Saga: California (The Beach Boys - 1973)

 

The Warmth of the Sun (Brian Wilson - 1995)

 

Rhapsody in Blue (George Gershwin - 1924)

 

Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963)  

 

Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder) (The Beach Boys - 1966)

 

 




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kds

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Wow, almost all of these could be a gold: 

1.  You Still Believe in Me (The Beach Boys - 1966) (73.5, 33.41) (Week 14 - Larry Franz) - My favorite song from Pet Sounds.  Quite possibly the best harmonies in the entire BB canon.  Amazing.

2.  The Warmth of the Sun (Brian Wilson - 1995) (66, 30.00) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood) - My favorite Beach Boys song of all time (maybe tied with Surf's Up).  If this were the BB version, it would be my #1.  


3.  Help! (The Beatles - 1965) (58.5, 29.25; 165) (Week 7 - BrianFan) - Great track from the Fab Four.  Great album and movie too. 

4.  Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963) (57, 25.91; 174) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood) - Still one of the great productions of all time.

5.  California Saga: California (The Beach Boys - 1973) (74.5, 33.86) (Week 16 - Verden McCutcheon) - If only The Beach Boys would've stuck with this sound throughout the rest of the 1970s.  

6.  Country Air (The Beach Boys - 1967) (65 votes, 36.11%) (Week 5 - paul g adsett) - Probably my favorite track off Wild Honey.  I love the harmonies, and even the broken sounding organ. 

7.  Help Me, Rhonda (The Beach Boys - 1965) (61.5, 30.75) (Week 7 - BrianFan) - Great song.  

8.  Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder) (The Beach Boys - 1966) (66, 36.67) (Week 40 - Peter Simpson) - Great solo vocal from Brian on this one. 

9.  Pet Sounds (live) (Brian Wilson - 2002) (70, 35.00) (Week 6 - Lisa G/TS) - Probably my least favorite PS track, but my appreciation for it has grown

10. Rhapsody in Blue (George Gershwin - 1924) (58, 26.36) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood) - I like this song, but too much competition. 

 

 

 
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Country Air - 8
Pet Sounds (live) - 7
Help Me, Rhonda - 2
Help! - 4
You Still Believe in Me - 9
California Saga: California - 6
The Warmth of the Sun -1
Rhapsody in Blue - 10
Be My Baby - 3
Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder) - 5

My final answer.

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1.  You Still Believe in Me (The Beach Boys - 1966) (73.5, 33.41) (Week 14 - Larry Franz)  .  Almost perfect.
2.  Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder) (The Beach Boys - 1966) (66, 36.67) (Week 40 - Peter Simpson)  And right behind it...More near perfection.  The top 2 hover well above the rest of the field.

3.  Help Me, Rhonda (The Beach Boys - 1965) (61.5, 30.75) (Week 7 - BrianFan)  A wee bit weary of it now.  Still... ... ...Here it sits on the podium.
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4.  Country Air (The Beach Boys - 1967) (65 votes, 36.11%) (Week 5 - paul g adsett)  Helped the Wild Honey l.p. to soar.  Kind of wasted on THAT album.  As were Here Comes the Night and Let The Wind Blow.
5.  Rhapsody in Blue (George Gershwin - 1924) (58, 26.36) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood)  I love how Brian would re-do the gist of this with voices.  An all time great piece of music.

6.  The Warmth of the Sun (Brian Wilson - 1995) (66, 30.00) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood) A perfect song in it's original form. Brian was still on his way 'back' when this version was recorded.  The actual song itself saves this performance from falling lower still.  Should have been #1...and would have been with the original recording.
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7.  Help! (The Beatles - 1965) (58.5, 29.25; 165) (Week 7 - BrianFan)  Significantly less than the 6 gems above it.
8.  California Saga: California (The Beach Boys - 1973) (74.5, 33.86) (Week 16 - Verden McCutcheon)  A fun tune.  Not quite in the same class as 1 - 6.

9.  Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963) (57, 25.91; 174) (Week 18 - Cindy Hood)  Phil gets way too much credit.  As I've said...He found the wall.  Brian turned it into a monument.  WAY overrated.  [this is NOT a quote from 'the' Donald.]
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10.  Pet Sounds (live) (Brian Wilson - 2002) (70, 35.00) (Week 6 - Lisa G/TS)  Not even intended for Pet Sounds but it was done...and recorded...and rejected.  So Brian needed to make use of it.  Odd sound for the album really.  Still, after typing all of that ... a great little tune.  Just not up to this competition's HIGHER standard.

10 great songs.  Some greater than the rest.

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I had to reorder my votes slightly.  I didn't realize this was the IJWMFTT version of Warmth of the Sun.  If it were the Beach Boys version from SDV2, I'd leave it at #1, but I think You Still Believe In Me is superior to the Don Was version of Warmth of the Sun.  

So, YSBIM gets bumped to #1 for me, with WOTS at #2.  
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Nor did I.  That WILL change things.  So will I.  It drops from 1 to 6.  NOT a good performance.
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  1. Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)

  2. Help Me, Rhonda

  3. You Still Believe in Me

  4. Be My Baby

  5. Country Air

  6. The Warmth of the Sun (it's not the original or it would have been higher)

  7. California Saga: California

  8. Pet Sounds (live)

  9. Rhapsody in Blue (it is the original or it would have been higher)

  10. Help! (simply never cared for this song)

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01 Help!
02 Help Me, Rhonda
03 Rhapsody in Blue
04 Be My Baby
05 Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
06 You Still Believe in Me
07 Pet Sounds (live)
08 The Warmth of the Sun
09 California Saga: California
10 Country Air


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Here's my order:

1. You Still Believe in Me

2. Be My Baby

3. California Saga

4. Country Air

5. Help

6 Help Me Rhonda

7. Don't Talk Put Your Head on My Shoulder

8. Warmth of the Sun

9. Pet Sounds

10. Rhapsody in Blue (only last because it's too weird trying to place it in a list of popular songs).




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1 Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder) - ever since the Pet Sounds Sessions (box) I'm enamored (hooked).  
2 Rhapsody in Blue - Sorry George, but you got edged out.  Classic Americana.  Got Brian GOING!  

3 Help Me, Rhonda - She looks so fine - and sounds it as well. 
4 Pet Sounds (live) - A highlight, for me, at any Brian and band show! 

5 Help! - Sir John feeling it.  Sir Paul and Sir George right there as well and the quick time of Richard Starkey.   
6 You Still Believe in Me - LOVE it, but respect too much above it! 
7 Be My Baby - Classic
8 California Saga: California - LOVE this, but against this competition. 
9 The Warmth of the Sun - You CAN'T top the original! You just can't. 

10 Country Air - Just not a fan of the song, but like to breathe some country air.  Breathing is essential!

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01 Help!
02 Help Me, Rhonda


Well played, t (and John)!
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1. Help! (The Beatles - 1965)
In my Top 10 songs of all time. Sublime and straight to the point.

2. Be My Baby (The Ronettes - 1963)
Just a great record.

3. Help Me, Rhonda (The Beach Boys - 1965)
A Beach Boys song I wouldn’t mind never hearing again. I don’t think there was a time I actually liked it. But it is the Boys.

4. California Saga: California (The Beach Boys - 1973)
Was torn between this and ‘Rhonda’. It's a treat to hear all the Boys singing on an almost-vintage-sounding song again. No great emotional attachment for me on this one (I didn't grow up with it) other than it's the Beach Boys.

5. The Warmth of the Sun (Brian Wilson - 1995)
Melancholic and beautiful in its original form. Just going here.

6. Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder) (The Beach Boys - 1966)
This is not a favourite of mine at all.

7. You Still Believe in Me (The Beach Boys - 1966)
Another track off Pet Sounds that I have no emotional connection to beyond it being Brian and I often use the melody to do my scales before I sing!

8. Country Air (The Beach Boys - 1967)
I remember when Lisa used this song in Season IV, it was brent who mentioned that ‘whoever it was at the start has a clear cut case of constipation’. I haven’t listened to it the same ever since. Any guesses? Sounds like Carl or Brian to me.

9. Rhapsody in Blue (George Gershwin - 1924)
I prefer the bohemian one. Sounds like I'm listening to a Bugs Bunny cartoon. A long one with no dialogue or laughs. Can I say that? Nevertheless, obviously a remarkably influential piece, but would I seek it out to play? I’d rather listen to ‘Daisy Petal Pickin’’ than this. There are plenty of Gershwin tracks I do like.

10. Pet Sounds (live) (Brian Wilson - 2002)
Not a fan of live. Brian’s “wrote this next song for a James Bond movie but they turned it down…” says about as much as you need to know. Good tune and playing, though.

 

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Here are the votes from Sweden!

1. Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder). No living person, except Brian, has composed anything more Beautiful!
2. You Still Believe in Me. Bach smiles.
3. The Warmth of the Sun. One of his first Masterpieces!

These Three are in a Class that few other Songs belong to.

4. Rhapsody in Blue. The Brian of his Time.
5. Pet Sounds Live. The Band really loves this one, even more nowadays.
6. Help me Rhonda. Good Pop!
7. Be my Baby. Good but overestimated. Sorry Brian.
8. Help. Good Pop!
9. Country Air. A nice Bagatelle
10. California Saga. Ok Singalong.
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Darren J. Ray

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Thanks very much to kds, Cindy, Lee, Prof, t, John E, Al and Mr Ferm for the votes and comments. 

Indeed, making sure everyone is aware it is the I Just Wasn't Made for These Times version of 'The Warmth of the Sun' from 1995 you're voting on.

This is going to be a close week.  
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2. Country Air
9.Pet Sounds (live)
10.Help Me, Rhonda
8.Help!
4.You Still Believe in Me
6 California Saga: California
3.The Warmth of the Sun
1. Rhapsody in Blue
7 Be My Baby
5. Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
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