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thorgil

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I love Hal's idea, but I'd do an addition: as BWPS is not represented, Darian should speak of the genesis of BWPS and the song afterwards could be Surf's Up.
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Good call, thorgil! I'd add that song between 'Stay Awake' and 'One Kind Of Love'. If any one song encapsulated what Smile is all about, it's definitely 'Surf's Up'...and the version on BWPS is phenomenal.
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OK, top of the head disc 1:

1 Love & Mercy
2 Melt Away
3 Meet Me In My Dreams Tonight
4 Rio Grande
5 Orange Crate Art
6 Your Imagination
7 South American
8 Lay Down Burden
9 Getting In Over My Head
10 Don't Let Her Know She's An Angel
11 Morning Beat
12 Midnight's Another Day
13 Southern California
14 Summertime
15 It Ain't Necessarily So
16 Kiss The Girl
17 Colours Of The Wind
18 This Beautiful Day
19 The Right Time
20 Sail Away
21 Saturday Night
22 The Last Song
23 Believe In Yourself (bonus track)
24 What Love Can Do (bonus track)
25 This Could Be The Night (bonus track)


Hmmm... after a night's sleep, I feel I may have been a little generous with the newest album. But hey...


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I came up with a crazy idea. A single mean and lean disc, titled: Brian Wilson, the King of Rock 'n' Roll *. Extremely upbeat. One song from each of the studio albums, plus some extra tracks.

1) Rio Grande (in a dream world, re-recorded with the current band, including vocals by Al, Blondie and Matt).
2) Do It Again (with Carnie and Wendy).
3) Sail Away (from OCA).
4) South American.
5) Desert Drive.
6) Roll Plymouth Rock (in that same dream world, re-recorded using the melody that Brian sings for a few seconds in Disc 3 of the Smile Sessions - then it would be really upbeat).
7) Little Saint Nick.
8) Going Home.
9) I Got Rhythm.
10) Kiss the Girl.
11) Sail Away (from NPP).

Extras:
12) Listen To Me.
13) Wanderlust.
14) I'm into Something Good (with Carole King).
15) PROUD MARY (recorded for this album, with Brian, Al, and Blondie trading leads, Ricky on drums and guitar solo by Blondie!). *
16) Fun, Fun, Fun (re-recorded in studio with Ricky on drums, guitar solo by Blondie and extended bari sax solo by Paul). *

* I'm tired of waiting for the R'n'R album. Does it show? [smile]
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I think that the boxes are there for the ages for people to unearth and "disc"-over who this man of music really is. So in keeping with what Woodstock initially began, HAL so elegantly proposes on post #13 and Andrew addresses - it would HAVE to be a box with enough rarities in it for the we-the-fans to go out and get it.  The inclusion of BWPS changes the entire scope. You need representation from EVERY album, but I do like HAL's concept.  There are many, many pieces in the vaults to be sure.  Now, does it end with live Pet Sounds next year?  Debbie addresses other rarities.  Come on BriMel and Mark Linett - have some thoughts about this.  It would be fantastic!
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Good call, Al. I think what I proposed could be a watered-down version of a boxset...for the average Joe to buy. Whereas a boxset could have some incredible rarities, alternate takes, studio chatter for the rest of us die-hard fans. Hell, I'd love for a few 45s to be tossed in as a bonus.

I once made a photoshop of my dream Brian Wilson boxset...hoping something like this comes to fruition:

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Wow, Hal. This is one of the best photoshops I have ever seen. [smile]
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Hal, that set looks amazing!  If only it was real. [love]

Well done!

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HAL - I'm sending my order to you (someday). You may have set the template for what is to be!  This is soooooo cool.  American Songwriter Collection.  It just doesn't get any better.  VERY wishful thinking.  We'll see. 
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From There to Back Again is the perfect name for the whole box set if its truly a career spanning set.
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And there would be the balance: If the goal is to give the longtime fans a comprehensive set along those lines, that's the way to go - pull out all the stops, go "Deluxe" and do it the right way.

If the goal is to introduce the highlights of Brian's past three decades as a solo artist to new listeners, reintroduce the music to some fans who may not have heard it for years, and even get a push onto the media channels to help boost the profile of some great but perhaps not as regularly played music...do the single-disc route.

Best of both worlds. I'd love to see a single-disc get some kind of a campaign behind it so more people can hear some amazing songs that are in Brian's catalog of his solo work.

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I agree with you, GF.  A compact, single disc compilation would be a good way to whet anyone's appetite who might want to discover what Brian has done in his solo career.  

In a boxset of rarities should ever be released, I would hope that the boxset would only include rarities.  Since this would be for hardcore fans, I would hope that I wouldn't have to spend a ton of money for a set that's 20% rarities, and 80% stuff I already own.  
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The 1993 GV box set struck a very nice balance. You had all the well-known hits and album cuts, you had rarities enough for not only a separate disc (although some of the remixes weren't as much rarities as they were curios)...but the grand slam "hook" of that box set was 40+ minutes of Smile, which was more than enough reason for a lot of fans who already had all the music (or most of what they wanted, let's say) to spend the extra money for the Smile material.

Granted, 1993 was early enough so CD box sets were still relatively new and kind of a curiosity themselves, the notion of buying a comprehensive package with booklet included so you'd have a pretty complete overview of whatever artist you wanted in a single package may have been at a peak into the 1990's before digital downloads and the like. But starting with the Spector box around 1989 or whenever it was, and of course the Elvis 50's and Robert Johnson box which got a lot of (deserved) hype followed by other notable releases, there was a new market for these sets, the floodgates were open.

In 2016? Perhaps not as much. It's a niche market, yet one not to be ignored. Yet the industry has almost reverted back to the 1960's in terms of the single song purchase being the driving force of the music biz. Consumers buy singles today, for the most part. I highly doubt there are many people buying a full album just to get one or two songs getting spun on Top-40 or A.C. radio stations, or even Pandora via recommendations.

With that in mind - An overview of Brian's last 3 decades of solo output, presented as 'singles'? That could work in 2016. A full box set - perhaps more as a niche, limited run kind of deal for the fans willing to pay whatever retail amount is set to cover the packaging and rights/licensing costs to compile a truly complete box set. Keep in mind how many labels and contracts and interests exist over 30 years of albums.

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GF, 

I never really thought about it before, but the box set does seem to be pretty dead.  Seems the majority of box sets these days are complete studio collections.  

I thought, for the time, that GV was pretty well balanced.  But, why so many already released songs on MIC?  

I still think my favorite box set was the one Iron Maiden put out in 2003.  Six discs - not one track anywhere on the boxset had been officially released on CD before.  

It was four discs of live material, two discs of B-sides / odds & ends.  That's what I'd like to see from Brian.  An audio live anthology.  Include an early 2000s show from his return to the live arena.  A Smile show.  A TLOS show.  A NPP Tour Show.  Etc.  Include a bonus disc of unreleased studio material, or songs not available on BW albums.   

I think this could take care of the headache of trying to compile a BW box with all the different labels involved.  
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Ah, those 40 minutes of Smile. I practically grew up with Smiley Smile and loved it, but never knew anything about Smile before buying the Good Vibrations box.
When the tracks reached the H&V sessions, I stopped believing my ears. I was laughing, dancing and clapping with the headphones on. Most exhilarating music moment in my life. And then I listened for the first time to Surf's Up...
Happy New Year everybody!
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